Monday, September 29, 2014

CONSERVATIVE (AND LIBERTARIAN) OUTREACH TO WOMEN IS GOING GREAT, CONT.

Last week I mentioned the  spate of  conservative complaints about Emma Watson's very measured feminist speech at the U.N., which apparently spoiled their bedtime Hermione fantasies. Since then, in Time magazine -- a major outlet of what was once called the Liberal Media, for reasons lost to history -- Cathy Young of Reason has delivered the libertarian response. Guess how that goes?
Sorry, Emma Watson, but HeForShe Is Rotten for Men
Until feminism recognizes discrimination against men, the movement for gender equality will be incomplete.
Lots of weeping about "anti-male biases in the court system," and how if a woman beats up a man (as they frequently do) no one sympathizes, whereas if a guy beats up a chick everyone gets bent out of shape, etc. This pretty much comports with what libertarians usually say about women's rights. I wouldn't be surprised if folks started catching on at last that social issues don't mean as much to libertarians as the transfer of wealth from paupers to the deserving rich.

While his colleagues were raging at Watson, Kevin D. Williamson of National Review kicked it old school with a rant about Lena Dunham. the Brooklyn actress who started driving culture warriors crazy during the 2012 campaign, and whom, despite their protestations of disgust with her tattooed ass, they just cain't quit.

Dunham wrote a pamphlet for Planned Parenthood (or, in Williamson’s view, “a gang of abortion profiteers”) called “5 Reasons Why I Vote (and You Should, Too),” spurring his column-length sputter. Mostly it was about  how voting is stupid (“the most shallow gesture of citizenship there is”) because people with whom he disagrees get to do it (and are only doing so “as an act of self-gratification,” not to get candidates elected) and seem at present to outnumber him and his lunatic fringe. But Williamson managed to stuff unchivalrous comments about Dunham in there, too, and plenty of abortion ravings, including an assertion that women have abortions out of a “desire to fit nicely into a prom dress."  "FWIW, I've been dumping of democracy/voting fetishization for almost two decades," cheered Jonah Goldberg in response.

Later Williamson went on Twitter to tell people that women who had abortions should be hanged as murderers. The boy will go far.

Our favorite stray ladyragebit, though, is a line from Bryan Preston at PJ Media. Angered to learn that Alicia Keys was appearing naked for some social justice thing, Preston seethed, “She and the [New York] Times see this as ‘empowering.’ Is it empowering that an insanely successful woman and mother believes that getting naked before the entire world is the best way to draw attention to her cause? Or is it just plain old attention-whoring from her, and sucking up to leftwing celebrities from the New York Times?” Fucking bitches, with their whoring and sucking! 

“Yet here she is,” sneered Preston, “being all empowered. Naked, to push for gun control.” And now, his piece de resistance:
Try confronting an Islamist madman like this.
Message discipline is message discipline -- squads of headchoppers roam America's streets! Even in the midst of ladyrage, there's always time to pick on Muslims.  

183 comments:

  1. the most shallow gesture of citizenship there is

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  2. Try
    confronting an Islamist madman like this.Didn't we just recently hear from David Solway about what oglers Muslims are? So the Keys approach would probably work.

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  3. Derelict11:36 AM

    Later Williamson went on Twitter to tell people that women who had abortions should be hanged as murderers.

    Because nothing says how much you value life like supporting the death penalty.

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  4. I read the news today, oh Roy


    Joni Ernst’s Iowa campaign makes quick work of the ‘war on women’


    - George F. Swill


    Shorter: GOP got a lady to run against the Democrat man in Iowa, so shut up lieberals!
    ~

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  5. Derelict11:38 AM

    "FWIW, I've been dumping of democracy/voting fetishization for almost two decades," cheered Jonah Goldberg in response.

    Once again showing how it is the Right that truly and deeply loves America--but despises its government, its form of governance, and the people who live here. And, for good measure, the Right's support of polluters says that they also despise the very land itself.

    But otherwise, they do love America!

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  6. carolannie11:45 AM

    Also nothing says how much you really are FOR women like telling them you want to murder them.

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  7. dstatton11:47 AM

    Oh, to sell my soul and get paid to write the same drivel over and over. Williamson is the worst writer at NR, which, I know, is really saying something. Yes, worse than Goldberg.

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  8. This is the Right's understanding of tough love.

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  9. Once again, there should be more than one (up)vote per person in cases like this.

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  10. sharculese11:51 AM

    Jonah, we already figured out you were too lazy to vote. You didn't have to admit it.

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  11. sharculese11:53 AM

    " Is it empowering that an insanely successful woman and mother"


    FYI winguts if you want to the "we're really the ones who are for empowering women" thing to work even a little you have to not mention how you primarily see them as baby factories.

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  12. Voting is a shallow expression of citizenship- buying elections, on the other hand...

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  13. a gang of abortion
    profiteers


    Well, then they're good capitalists!

    How DARE you criticize their efforts to make money, sir! Communist!

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  14. tigrismus11:57 AM

    “as an act of self-gratification,”

    He's still chafed about Mitt.

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  15. Shorter Bryan Preston: Stop ruining my masturbatory fantasies with your agency!!!

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  16. Well, he should use some sort of lube then.

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  17. gocart mozart12:07 PM

    Moron National Review's Kevin Williamson and: Women Who Have Abortions Should Be Hanged, and So Should Doctors
    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43891_National_Reviews_Kevin_D._Williamson-_Women_Who_Have_Abortions_Should_Be_Hanged_and_So_Should_Doctors/comments/#ctop

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  18. Bethany Spencer12:16 PM

    " a gang of abortion
    profiteers"

    Silly. It's a murder of abortion profiteers.

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  19. sharculese12:16 PM

    A lot of Republicans go out of their way to make sure everyone knows how rattled they are by the success of the war on women line, but George Will is in a league of his own when it comes to the resentment and frustration he can't disguise.


    You're tears sustain us, George. Never stop.

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  20. BigHank5312:20 PM

    I'm sorry--could someone remind me who it is that keeps shrieking about religiously-mandated laws and what a big threat they are to freedom?

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  21. sharculese12:21 PM

    To be fair, this is the natural termination of anti-choice logic (complete with hanging!) but most of them now not to say it because even people who are sympathetic to their obsession see it as monstrous.


    Can I just say that as a liberal, nothing would terrify me more than for Republicans to start publicly acknowledging that this is the road they want to go down.

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  22. BigHank5312:23 PM

    Don't forget to mention how many popular methods of birth control are also abortion! All those filthy sluts having non-procreative sex need hanging too!

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  23. We should definitely encourage this "Voting is for stupid liberals" thing.

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  24. Only dummy LIEberals vote! Stupid LIEberals! Stupid! Stupid!

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  25. What worries me in this situation is the free-lance conservatives who would take it on themselves to enforce policies.

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  26. i myself heard conservative academics sayin right out that only property owners shld be able 2 vote , back in the eighties . . . . then agn they didnt say this in print ie public then afaik ! !

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  27. I'll go along with that when people like him call for castration--or worse--for masturbators, or shall we call them "seed spillers" who are not doing their duty as God intended. It's in the Bible, y'know.

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  28. Cato the Censor12:46 PM

    Why does a reactionary hack from Reason Magazine get a forum in Time, once considered an important, national opinion-maker? Lo, how the mighty have fallen.

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  29. also theyre startin 2 b forced to acknowledge that miscarriages are way more common than they ever knew & there wld be a heckuva lotta false positives that wld sweep up their own family members

    so there may be a bit of wariness @ goin full on HANDMAIDS TALE in public now , after gettin burnt w the laws they tried t o pass requrn miscarriage investigated as murder in VA etc

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  30. there was a guy running for sheriff in the northeast a couple years ago who boasted hed shoot abortion doctors

    for some reason this caused his campaign to halt & catch fire

    i just saw his name the other day bc he is involved w another of those galts gulch wannabes down in chile - frank szabo iirc

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  31. Jay B.12:54 PM

    FWIW, I've been dumping of democracy/voting fetishization for almost two decades


    Yes, yes, liberals are the fascists.

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  32. mortimer20001:00 PM

    Later Williamson went on Twitter to tell people that women who had abortions should be hanged as murderers.

    That's only because beheading comes with too much cultural baggage.

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  33. I used to visit Time occasionally (in order to throw rocks at Joke Line from the comment section). Seems to be an arid wasteland now.
    ~

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  34. susanoftexas1:12 PM

    It's getting harder and harder for them to poutrage. Cathy Young tells us yes, feminists brought equality for both parents to divorce courts, but they still side with women so men are still discriminated against.
    She seems to be one of those "everyone's wrong but me" libertarians.

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  35. mortimer20001:25 PM

    For Goldberg, this is democracy/voting fetishization: Every citizen should have the right to vote, and should exercise it.

    At the same time, he thinks the vote is a precious, solemn thing, and voters should be limited to the certifiably "informed" to make it even more "valuable" -- but this is the opposite of fetishizing voting, because (WARNING: actual Goldberg quotes)
    It's an unfashionable thing to say, but if anything, voting should be harder, not easier.
    Immigrants have to pass a test to vote; why not all citizens?
    If you want people to value their vote, we should make it more valuable.We might get fewer voters, but the voters would be far more likely to appreciate the solemnity of their ballots.
    If you threaten to take the vote away from the certifiably uninformed, voter turnout will almost certainly get a boost.


    (Yes, he did say that this would result in both fewer voters and increased turnout, but to be fair, that's because 1) these quotes are from two different articles and 2) Goldberg.)

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  36. M. Krebs1:28 PM

    Good times.

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  37. satch1:45 PM

    "Joni Ernst’s Iowa campaign makes quick work of the ‘war on women’"


    She set Georgie's heart aflutter because she promised to castrate liberals.

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  38. satch1:50 PM

    “Yet here she is,” sneered Preston, “being all empowered.
    Naked, to push for gun control.”

    Why not? God knows nothing else has worked...

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  39. Jayson Alan Grigsby1:58 PM

    Plan Nein.

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  40. Jayson Alan Grigsby2:03 PM

    Did not Mz. Watson specifically address the ways patriarchy hurts men as well, in her call for men to stand for gender equality? Not as an MRA line-item grievance screed, though I guess.

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  41. satch2:08 PM

    "Just in the past few days, many feminist commentators have taken great umbrage at suggestions
    that soccer star Hope Solo, currently facing charges for assaulting her
    sister and teenage nephew, deserves similar censure to football player
    Ray Rice, who was caught on video striking his fiancée."

    Cathy... what part of FACING CHARGES do you not understand? And as one media outlet with a greater sense of proportion http://www.classicalite.com/articles/11842/20140929/hope-solo-domestic-violence-case-soccer-goalies-situation put it: "There is a reason why we call it the 'Violence Against Women Act' and not the 'Brawling With Families Act."

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  42. Jayson Alan Grigsby2:12 PM

    Somebody's been paying attention!

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  43. dstatton2:14 PM

    Williamson: voting is shallow.
    Goldberg: voting is solemn.


    Let the debate begin.


    I suppose they both believe that fewer liberals will be able to pass the test. Sample question: True of False: the US is the greatest country evah!! Or: The Civil War was not about slavery.

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  44. redoubtagain2:16 PM

    PS: Kevin Williamson, by his own admission, does not vote. (Again with the contempt for democratic process--Benevolent Dictators, all.)

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  45. dstatton2:16 PM

    Not to mention that miscarriages make the poor woman a murder suspect (that's already been proposed).

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  46. tigrismus2:17 PM

    His own bitter tears: though produced in great quantities, less lubricating than you might have thought. Though he did find the sound of sobbing a bit of a help in the getting-the-job-done department.

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  47. dstatton2:20 PM

    Lady Godiva rode naked to protest taxes, so that was OK. Wait, it was about her husband levying taxes on his tenants. Never mind.

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  48. Ah, yes, the sexist variant of the ol' standby: "Sure, Al Sharpton grandstands when a white person guns down an unarmed black teen and faces no legal consequences, but where's his denunciation of this case of black-on-white violence in which the black person has been arrested, charged, and convicted?"

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  49. redoubtagain2:26 PM

    FWIW, I've been dumping of democracy/voting fetishization for almost two decades
    Legacy Hire Finds Fault With Democracy

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  50. runsinbackground2:35 PM

    MRA line-item grievance screed David Futrelle over at We Hunted The Mammoth seems to have taken notice of Robert Stacey McCain and his relationship with the MRA community, a fact that warms the cockles of my black heart.

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  51. BG, watery tart2:37 PM

    I have an alternative: whenever a woman finds herself with a pregnancy she doesn't want, the man who caused it is castrated in public.


    About just as reasonable.

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  52. BG, watery tart2:38 PM

    Logic and consistency aren't their strong suit.

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  53. Yup. The GOP candidate who supported a state personhood amendment for fertilized ova demonstrates that the GOP doesn't have it in for women's rights, because she's a girl. That's pretty airtight reasoning. (By which I mean, no oxygen could get into the room at the time.)

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  54. J Neo Marvin2:53 PM

    "Dumping of"? For the life of me, I can't figure out what he meant to say there.

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  55. J Neo Marvin2:56 PM

    By the way, have we mentioned how terrible those Muslims and their Sharia law are lately?

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  56. Spaghetti Lee2:59 PM

    Of course the Pantload and Williamson think that voting is useless and pathetic. Those stupid citizens should just get sinecures at propaganda magazines like decent people.

    It reminds you how pathetic and juvenile these guys are. I associate the voting-is-for-l00zers attitude with 19-year-olds who watched Fight Club too many times, not grown men who are theoretically supposed to be intelligent and incisive political commentators.

    Most people--left, right, and in-between, do not grasp what a big deal the concept of democracy is, the idea that even the most downtrodden person having a right to make their voice heard. The vast majority of humans who ever lived never got to do that. For them it's just another thing to bitch about when they realize life isn't a mechanism for them to order everyone else around.

    If I understand Williamson's "argument" correctly, it's that voting sucks because people who publicly support it are a bunch of smarmy hipsters that he really wants to hatefuck, and you should too. This from the country's preeminent conservative news magazine.

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  57. Spaghetti Lee3:04 PM

    Shorter 'Berg: "OK, if I can't stop people from voting because of their race, gender, or income, then how can I stop them?"


    Jonah wishing that stupid people wouldn't be able to vote is like a cow campaigning against vegetarianism.

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  58. Spaghetti Lee3:06 PM

    Yes, there are Republican women out there. Congratulations, GOP, you've managed to successfully not alienate every last one of the 140 million or so women of voting age in the US. Here's a cupcake.

    I have never met a single liberal who has a problem voting against Sarah Palin, Michele Bachmann, or Christine O'Donnell in favor of a male opponent. Who's playing identity politics again?

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  59. Spaghetti Lee3:10 PM

    What she means, clearly, is that the liberals who live in her own head aren't begging her for forgiveness enough. Does she provide a single 'feminist commentator' arguing that Solo deserves to get off easy because she's a woman.

    Here's the reason Rice is getting more attention: Rice plays a sport that dominates the waking thoughts of hundreds of millions of people 12 months a year, while Solo plays a sport that people maybe watch five minutes of every Olympics, before flipping back to ribbon gymnastics.

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  60. gocart mozart3:37 PM

    I like to ask them this hypothetical: "In a fire, if you had the option of saving only one of the following: a two month old child or a tray of 1000 frozen embryos, which would you choose to save?"

    If you really believe embryos are people, the later is the only moral choice. I haven't got an answer yet.

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  61. Dave Empey3:45 PM

    "dumping on", I would guess.

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  62. Another sample question: True or False: Tax cuts create revenue.

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  63. Hey, that's a good one.


    I'll have to remember that for future debates.

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  64. M. Krebs3:59 PM

    Charles Johnson on the Twit machine: "I appreciate it when people like this drop all the pretense and show their real ugly faces."


    In the case of Williamson, that's saying a lot.

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  65. I believe Modesty Blaise used this technique to freeze her oponents. It was called " The Nailer" (not making this up) and she went in half naked and then she and Willie Garving kicked the crap out of the very surprised bad guys.

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  66. Timidly raises hand--would the hangings be pre, or post, natal? IFAF.

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  67. He has no time for Jonah's passive/aggressive mewlings. His preferred mode is aggressive/psychotic. Last week it was a straight-outa-1967 diatribe on smelly climate-change marchers and their bad hygeine when news photographs made it clear that the participants came from the broadest possible cross-section of age groups and demographics.

    I can only assume, with his hair-trigger desire to insult and offend, that Williamson has no friends and has alienated all his family members.

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  68. Maybe he means a "cheap" expression of citizenship--because buying elections wholesale or retail is actually quite expensive.

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  69. I've tried it. People just walk away.

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  70. That's why Republicans have put all those onerous voter-ID requirements in place. Because voting is meaningless.

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  71. smut clyde4:15 PM

    I am intrigued now, and wondering what Williamson considers to be a deeper gesture of citizenship. Gun owning?

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  72. Spaghetti Lee4:15 PM

    "I've been dumping...for almost two decades."


    How are we supposed to make poop jokes when he makes them himself? :(

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  73. smut clyde4:16 PM

    But "dumping on democracy" has been the NR's policy right back to Buckley, and his argument that black people should be stopped from voting lest they outvote white people. So Goldberg can't claim any originality there.

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  74. TGuerrant4:37 PM

    Exercising it? Could we have more detail here, please?

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  75. I made a killing on climate-science grant swindles, but George Soros says birth-control clinics are the NEXT BIG THING.

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  76. smut clyde4:43 PM

    They want "taxation without representation"... if only there were a single word for that.

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  77. synykyl4:44 PM

    Well, I'm pretty sure it's not paying taxes ;-)

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  78. smut clyde4:46 PM

    this technique to freeze her oponents


    It turned them rigid, anyway.

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  79. Socialist Cubone4:55 PM

    There's always been a weird paradox in conservative writing where all the consequences of social liberalism they rail against as ungodly and decadent in the West, are the exact same things they argue make the (white) developed world objectively morally superior to the (nonwhite) developing world. Which in turn justifies more neo-imperialist foreign policy.



    I could never figure out if they were just trying to flatter liberals into supporting their stupid wars, or if it was an admission that all the talk about decadence was just for the rubes.


    Or maybe their just deluding themselves.

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  80. Jay B.4:55 PM

    Santa. Plus those big mouths over in Fox Company. The old man was right. War is hell. And the War on Christmas is like hell on steroid acid.

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  81. Gromet4:57 PM

    Bitching fatuously for pay about the direction the world has taken since 1908?

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  82. Gromet5:03 PM

    Republican votes are solemn attempts to save America. Democratic votes are shallow attempts to loot the joint. QED.

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  83. Oh, my.


    I hope he lost LOTS AND LOTS of money.

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  84. Gromet5:11 PM

    I'd like to ask these "Liberal hypocrites!!!"-yelling yahoos just one question: "Who'd you rather get punched in the face by, Hope Solo or Ray Rice?"

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  85. There goes the "we invaded country X to pave the way for democracy" justification.

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  86. They certainly snapped to attention.

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  87. Robert M.5:22 PM

    Inquiring minds want to know: is Williamson including users of "abortifacient" birth control methods? Because he's already calling for the execution of about 30% of women, according to Guttmacher. So if you add birth control to the list of capital offenses, I think he might struggle to get a plurality of voters behind his policy preference.

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  88. (and are only doing so
    “as an act of self-gratification,” not to get candidates elected)


    *WHUMP WUMP WHUMP*

    "Are you okay in there, sir? You've been in there quite a long time..."

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  89. And immediately be punched by their choice.

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  90. merl15:56 PM

    I once had a room mate who was a pretty big guy, when his little girlfriend beat the crap out of him once or twice a month, I laughed my ass off. He would scream "Merl, help me!" and I laughed more. Because I told him several times that she was a fucking lunatic who would kill him some day and he needed to get rid of her ass. But he loved her. Besides, watching small women beat up large men is comical.

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  91. Honestly? Based on the amount of money I could make in the ensuing lawsuit, Ray Rice. Just sayin'

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  92. Megalon6:27 PM

    Jonah Goldberg is such a bumbling fool as a writer, you can sometimes forget what a deep, multi layered person he is. If you look below the surface, he's also a hateful scumbag.

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  93. Lancelot Link6:30 PM

    Williamson would, of course, save only himself, then complain bitterly that someone else didn't save both the child and the frozen embryos.

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  94. sigyn6:35 PM

    And then they leave you alone, Win/Win

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  95. Megalon6:38 PM

    Those protesters in Hong Kong getting their bashed in are a bunch of shallow posers! Bitching about how other people vote is what real heroes do!

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  96. satch6:42 PM

    And yet... she's leading in the polls. Iowa women, anyone out there...?

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  97. Democracy actually now means "buying shit from Walmart and McDonald's".

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  98. STOP STOP IT

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  99. Well, sure, but I kind of come from the "crush them...kill them...and hear the lamentations of their women for once in a fucking while instead of our women" school of thought.

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  100. Derelict7:09 PM

    I'm pretty sure there's no deeper gesture of citizenship than buying shit from Wal*Mart and McDonalds. Unless it's stealing the wages of your hourly employees.

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  101. smut clyde7:22 PM

    Fetus-fetishist Kevin Williamson is a fan of Murray Rothbard, who argued that parents should not be saddled with legal responsibilty for feeding their infants or otherwise keeping them alive (as long as they do not lock the door, so that the starving infant can crawl out of the house and seek its own food).
    I imagine that in your subjunctive situation he would save the frozen embryos, because the two-month-old child is responsible for saving itself.

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  102. ken_lov7:37 PM

    No true woman would murder her little baby.

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  103. montag27:40 PM

    True or false: war is peace.
    True or false: ignorance is strength.

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  104. Waffle_Man7:50 PM

    Does she provide a single 'feminist commentator' arguing that Solo deserves to get off easy because she's a woman?

    Of course not. I actually wonder whether Young is purposefully missing the points made by the people she criticizes, or whether she just can't read.

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  105. montag27:54 PM

    About thirty percent of colonials at the end of the Revolutionary War were royalists. A small number of them went back to England, but the very largest number of them stayed, carried on with their businesses and insinuated themselves into society and its politics.

    Today, they're known as conservatives.

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  106. montag28:00 PM

    This is very likely the face of someone still holding grudges against the girls that taunted him on the playground.

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  107. Waffle_Man8:08 PM

    I'm really annoyed by that Cathy Young article.


    I'm starting to get really tired of what I'll call "false partisanship". Real partisanship is when you disagree with somebody on substance; when you refuse to agree with what they're saying because it violates some principle you hold.


    "False partisanship" is the kind where you ignore what the other person is saying and disagree with them simply because they're on the other team.


    Let's put aside, for a moment, the fact that Young really misrepresents the arguments of a lot of the feminists she links to, I want to know why the hell this article is about Watson's speech. What, in anything Watson said, makes Young think Watson doesn't care about male domestic abuse victims? Or would praise a shirt saying "I bathe in male tears"?


    There's not a god-damned word in Watson's speech that suggests she wouldn't care about those things.


    So why is this article a response to Watson? Because Watson is a Hollywood star and feminist, so she must be on the "left-wing" team, and Young is a writer for Reason magazine, which means she must be on the "right-wing" team, and so that must mean they disagree, no matter what they actually say or think!

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  108. drkrick8:17 PM

    Contributing to whatever money-losing rag is currently publishing him.

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  109. smut clyde8:19 PM

    Research reveals that there is prior art for the word "fetushist".

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  110. drkrick8:20 PM

    Only when it's the wrong religion.

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  111. drkrick8:25 PM

    Her argument is that, like other charged but not convicted NFL players, Solo shouldn't be allowed to play until the charges are resolved. I don't think even she thinks anybody is asking for her to get a walk on the charges.

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  112. BigHank538:55 PM

    The deepest gesture of citizenship is obviously being a Walton heir and giving a sack of money to National Review so they can piss and moan about the horrible unfairness of the estate tax. How dare the government try to rob one of money that their grandfather earned?

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  113. gocart mozart9:00 PM

    (Plinii Nat. loco habitum est, donee in novos

    fetus Hist., xv. 2cX) reviresceret." (Taciti Annales, xiii. 58.)

    Forum romanum et magnum - Page 3 - Google Books

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  114. BigHank539:14 PM

    Whatever makes you think that Cathy Young is engaged in (or indeed has any interest in) honest debate? She is writing for Reason magazine, which means the audience that she must please is pretty much only interested in the snide dismissal of the leftists that live in their heads. While it is designed to resemble a policy debate, it actually has nothing in common with one. No compromises are offered or solutions advanced. It's the printed equivalent of giving that awkward kid in gym class a swirly, complete with sneering about how it's his fault they had to do it.

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  115. realinterrobang9:37 PM

    I'm guessing that reminding them Decree 770 was a Communist thing wouldn't get them to back off, huh?

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  116. glennisw10:05 PM

    No true man would make such a lame attempt at trolling.

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  117. glennisw10:07 PM

    Oh, God. When I was thirteen, I wanted to BE Modesty Blaise!

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  118. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person10:11 PM

    You mean she came into your dorm room and beat up on your roomie, and you did nothing? you cad! Got pix?

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  119. Voting is just a big...Oh look! Isn't that cute! Brown people with purple fingers...uh, as I was saying, voting is just a big stupid WASTE OF TIME!!

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  120. ken_lov10:43 PM

    Sorry, perhaps you're not familiar with the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/No_True_Scotsman

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  121. ken_lov10:45 PM

    See my reply to glennisw :)

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  122. M. Krebs11:09 PM

    The beard is the best thing. It looks like iron filings tossed against a layer of Super 77.

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  123. Derelict11:23 PM

    Well, women shouldn't be voting anyway, so there's that.

    Besides: none of those sluts would sleep with him. So there's that, too.

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  124. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person11:30 PM

    It's the first time you hear somethin' like . . .



    (Five Reasons Why You’re Too Dumb to Vote

    A-and then it smells...

    voting is stupid (“the most shallow gesture of citizenship there
    is”)

    Ain't that somethin'? Listen . . .

    Are we really, really, 100% sure this guy isn't a lefty plant? I mean, yeah, we know he isn't....I think, but, dayum...

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  125. Derelict11:32 PM

    I do believe this was the exact same line used to describe Christine O'donnel's campaign. At least until the "I'm not a witch" ads came out.

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  126. Ivan Renko12:39 AM

    Today they're known as dead.

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  127. AGoodQuestion12:54 AM

    But we are a nation of adult children so horrified by the prospect of actual children that we put one in five of them to death for such excellent reasons as the desire to fit nicely into a prom dress.
    Uh-huh. Good thing Williamson didn't become an exhibitionist pro-lifer for some shallow reason like the need to feel superior to 50% of the world's population, because that would rather vitiate his whole maturity argument.

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  128. AGoodQuestion12:56 AM

    Any periodical publishing Williamson isn't losing money so much as pissing it away.

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  129. AGoodQuestion12:58 AM

    Is there any other place where arriving somewhere that Jonah's been for two decades would be a point of pride?

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  130. AGoodQuestion1:03 AM

    There aren't enough upvotes in the world for this one.

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  131. AGoodQuestion1:12 AM

    I see the surgical removal of Will's Oxford education proceeds apace.

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  132. PorlockJunior1:28 AM

    Exactly right.
    Not paying taxes is surely their highest form of citizenship.

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  133. davdoodles1:30 AM

    "Voting is the most shallow gesture of
    citizenship there is, the issuance of a demand .... — imposing nothing
    in the way of reciprocal responsibility.
    "




    Genius mansplaining “how the world should be,” to Ms
    Dunham never heard of a little thing called the American Fucking
    Revolution...




    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_taxation_without_representation

    .

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  134. Wrangler2:06 AM

    It's not really funny at all. But yes, in my experience, it's guys who take the most delight in another guy being abused by his wife/girlfriend. Not like the people making this supposed anti-feminist point care about that, or anything else really.

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  135. Mana Butterfly2:47 AM

    It's not really funny at all.
    It's not supposed to be funny. It's supposed to give you that fleeting high of social status and domination; to see another human brought low while you look down upon them. Few things taste sweeter than having your (relatively) higher position in the social hierarchy affirmed by watching someone else false and WRT America's social hierarchy there's nothing that does this quite like seeing (another) male dominated by a women.

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  136. Matt Jones7:11 AM

    "Try confronting an Islamist madman like this."



    Sorry Preston, we've got too many Christianist madmen to confront. Some of them even have jobs at PJ Media...

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  137. Its not an undesirable characteristic to have had an abortion.

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  138. Especially when there's another villa in Tuscany just waiting to be bought. I mean, damn.

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  139. Needs moar copy editing.

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  140. BigHank537:47 AM

    It's hard to imagine anyone with more natural enthusiasm for a hereditary aristocracy.

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  141. ken_lov7:51 AM

    OMG, the terrorists have stolen everybody's sense of humour in America.

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  142. I knew I'd be able to use this eventuallly: http://www.latimes.com/news/la-oe-goldberg14dec14-column.html

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  143. Lurking Canadian7:56 AM

    Actually, once he has strung up everybody who disagrees with him, winning elections will probably get a lot easier.

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  144. Derelict8:00 AM

    Only if you're part of a HAZMAT response squad seeking some sort of world record.

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  145. Don't do it. You'd hate yourself in the morning.

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  146. Derelict8:09 AM

    Like peeling back a scab to find dead tissue, and removing that to find an infection, and clearing that away to find the underlying tumor.

    Yeah, Jonah the Fail contains multitudes like that.

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  147. Derelict8:13 AM

    Williamson: How the fuck does that work?

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  148. Derelict8:15 AM

    Another publishing triumph brought to you by Tina Brown.

    Tine Brown. When your publication is suffering from too many readers and too much advertising revenue, Tina Brown can shrink it down.

    Tina Brown: Ask for it by name!

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  149. Susan of Texas8:50 AM

    It's uncanny!

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  150. anonymouse9:06 AM

    in response to your question, yes.

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  151. Halloween_Jack9:48 AM

    Kev probably thinks he's the Captain America of neckbeards.

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  152. Halloween_Jack9:57 AM

    I associate the voting-is-for-l00zers attitude with 19-year-olds who watched Fight Club too many times


    Except that your hard-core Fight Club fans want to not just detach from, but entirely destroy the system, whereas Pantload, Williamson et al. really just want someone who's friendlier to the rentier class. They'd appreciate the Durdenites only if they pissed exclusively in the lobster bisque of limousine liberals (extra bonus if they could embarrass Obama with his inability to magically make the black-clad hordes go away).

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  153. Halloween_Jack10:00 AM

    I feel like Doughpants is trying to pre-spin the midterm results in advance, although it will be fun (if absolutely unsurprising) to see him valorize The Will of the People if things go the other way.

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  154. I love it when you talk dirty.

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  155. dstatton10:22 AM

    You can also call it tribalism. It's a primitive attitude. Hating anything that's not like you and your tribe. The very word "diversity" sets them off.

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  156. And yet... she's leading in the polls.Yup. As usual, Democrats sure can pick 'em, and the media are in the bag. We still get to hear about Braley's gaffe about Chuck Grassley the Farmer from months ago, while the metric assload of deranged fuckwittery that has firehosed from Joni Ernst's mouth, like an explosion in a hoglot lagoon, gets no coverage. Which would suggest that it's up to (Bear with me here, because this is radical) the Braley campaign to finally start pointing out Ernst's pyschopathic teabaggery about Agenda 21, impeaching Obama the dictator, opposing the evil farm bill, loving the Kochs so much, etc, etc, etc. Maybe once Senator Ernst is elected, Braley can get together for drinks with waste-of-carbon Ohio gubernatorial candidate Ed Fitzgerald.

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  157. dstatton10:43 AM

    That tirade about "hippie filth" made me decide he's the very worst. He should be demoted to the minors. Townhall, maybe, where he'll join Chuck Norris and David Limbaugh.

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  158. Wm Kiernan10:45 AM

    No, no, the rule should be that whenever any woman finds herself pregnant, whether she wants to be pregnant or not, Kevin D. Williamson should be castrated in public.

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  159. Sorry Preston, we've got too many Christianist madmen to confront.By taking our clothes off at them? I mean, sure, I'm willing, but what will it really accomplish? What's our ...


    [HASTILY RETRIEVES SUNGLASSES FROM PILE OF CLOTHING]


    [PUTS ON SUNGLASSES]


    ... end game?

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  160. carolannie11:09 AM

    I think so. It was too subtle for a discussion lacking in subtlety. Sorry we missed the snark

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  161. gocart mozart12:38 PM

    Nudity is always relevant Pere.

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  162. J Neo Marvin2:17 PM

    Dumping on democracy. Now there's something worth bragging about. And these guys are supposed to be the patriots?

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  163. J Neo Marvin2:43 PM

    Why the fuck does he get work?

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  164. bekabot3:14 PM

    "Last week I mentioned the spate of conservative complaints about Emma Watson's very measured feminist speech at the U.N., which apparently spoiled their bedtime Hermione fantasies."

    These guys have bedtime Hermione fantasies? Hermione is plain and has bushy hair. Wouldn't Fleur Delacour be more their speed? Fleur Delacour sounds like she could get a job as a Faux News journaliste. You can imagine Fleur telling you all about the perils of Obamacare and about how Barry used to deliver Alinsky's groceries, but Hermione (meantime) would want to talk about runes. To the guys who are doing the complaining, runes are what a north of England girl gets in her stockings, if they're willing to think about it even that much, which is not guaranteed.

    Some things are cultural and not universal, after all. Not everybody has Hermione fantasies.

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  165. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person11:51 PM

    "50 Guest Votes" says that's taken care of...

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  166. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person12:13 AM

    Should give this an extra 50 UVs for the damn-near 50th Anniversary, and Williamson an extra...well, an extra 50 fuck-you-and-the-horse-you-rode-in-ons, because nonviolent.

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  167. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person12:18 AM

    And vicey fuckin' versey...

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  168. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person12:26 AM

    And I really can't get past the fact that he actually said this out loud. Maybe this is a rare case of someone actually being as dumb as he looks...

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  169. merl16:54 PM

    Well, it was more sad than funny. Everyone kept telling this guy that his girlfriend was crazy and to dump her. I actually felt sorry for him and never told anyone about his beatings I figured he was humiliated enough.

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  170. merl16:55 PM

    Apartment mate actually.

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  171. Thanks for bringing the obvious to this thread, Mr. Schlachter.

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  172. Ivan Renko1:48 PM

    Mr. Cuffman, ye of the 'We leave our trash cans out in the street' Cuffmans, do you think Hillary Clinton knew she was getting money handed to her fraudulently in her cattle futures account, given that the chances of her extraordinary returns are estimated to have been at best 1 in 31 trillion? Much, much lower odds than Madoff's returns being legit.

    Do you think she 'knew'? Do you think she cares who was on the losing side of her windfall?

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  173. Hey, if you want to leave your comments private because you aren't proud of them, why do you bother with them at all in the first place.

    Nobody is reading this thread now, and if you start attacking other commentators here, Roy will take suitable measures to counter such behavior.

    Reduced to a Disqus account. How the mighty producer has fallen.

    See ya, wouldn't want to be yah.

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  174. Ivan Renko6:56 PM

    Frank- I started a new blog. Jaim, fafaroo, db, Oy, mambo and a few new creepy lurkers are all there. The whole gang. You should come over and check it out. We need a Googler. Think aboot it.

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  175. Poor Dennis, can't even post at Sadly, No! anymore.

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