Tuesday, June 04, 2013

YOU'RE ALL WORTHLESS AND WEAK!

That report on why the GOP is fucked with the Youngs came out, and Commentary got Bethany Mandel to spin it. I gotta admit, she found a twist I couldn't have imagined.

She focuses on this bit from the report:
Despite those poor marks for Obama and the Democrats on the economy, Democrats held a 16-point advantage over the Republican Party among young voters on handling of the economy and jobs (chosen as the top issue by 37% of respondents). For those respondents who said they approved of the job Obama had been doing as president, the number one word they used? “Trying.” He was trying. Young voters were disappointed in Obama’s performance, but gave him credit for attempting to improve the situation.
I look at that and I think: Well, yeah; after the economy was blown to shit in 2008 by the rapacious capitalism that had been championed by the Republican Party since Reagan, Obama does pretty much look like a guy with a mop trying to clean up after Hurricane Sandy, and you can't help but feel for him.

Here's Mandel's take:
Millennials seem particularly susceptible to this “participation trophy” mindset, which is one indication of the extension of certain markers of childhood well into adulthood. Yet parents are far from blameless. A recent piece in Psychology Today, entitled “A Nation of Wimps,” describes just how devastating the trendy brand of parenting known as “helicopter parenting” can be for the offspring of the most well-intentioned of parents...
Honest to God -- she thinks the kids like Obama because they're afraid if they admit he's a loser wimp, they'll have to admit they're loser wimps, too, and it was all because Daddy didn't beat and belittle them enough when they were pre-teens.

The solution, of course, would be to have some tough guy ride into the 2016 Republican Convention and tell them they're worthless and weak. I hope conservatives are taking good notes, because I would love to see them try that.

The general contempt for voters they're allegedly trying to win is pretty great, too. Next they should make Todd Akin special counselor on women's affairs. Yessir, conservative reform is looking good.

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  4. Spaghetti Lee11:24 PM

    I do think that among my cohort there really is a "we're all in this together, so be nice" attitude that isn't just confined to ad copy and viral marketing. It gets a bit too touchy-feely at times for my personal tastes, but hell, it's better than the alternative. And the GOP is just not gonna be able to square that circle, no matter how hard they 'rebrand'. "Fuck everyone who isn't like me" just doesn't work when everyone's on the internet talking to people and seeing things from around the world.

    The article's a goldmine of un-self-awareness comedy, by the way. Anyone who suspected that the GOP's 'brain trust' is mostly brand-obsessed marketing creatures will have their suspicions confirmed.

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  6. The solution, of course, would be to have some tough guy ride into the
    2016 Republican Convention and tell them they're worthless and weak.


    Chris Christie it is, then.

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  9. sharculese11:39 PM

    It would be an awesome followup to his 'hey I heard this Chris Christie fellow is a heck of a guy' bit from 2012.

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  10. Or Scott Walker.


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  14. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard11:49 PM

    The solution, of course, would be to have some tough guy ride into the 2016 Republican Convention and tell them they're worthless and weak. I hope conservatives are taking good notes, because I would love to see them try that.


    Up until the Sandy aftermath, that frontrunner would have been Chris "Phony Soprano" Christie. Now, after the post-Sandy Obama/Christie "bromance", it's up in the air. Oddly enough, for all of his gym-rat physique, Paul Ryan doesn't come across as a tough guy, just a cruel guy.

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  15. marindenver11:50 PM

    "Obama does pretty much look like a guy with a mop trying to clean up after Hurricane Sandy, and you can't help but feel for him."

    Actually more like a guy with a mop trying to clean up after Hurricane Sandy with the other side actively pouring boat loads of shit in front of him.

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  16. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard11:51 PM

    Perhaps one of these cabinets can run as the Republican savior of 2016.

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  18. Spaghetti Lee11:54 PM

    The thing about Paul Ryan, to continue the youth-sports analogy, is that he's the 'MVP' of a team that consists mostly of paste-eaters, nose-pickers, and kids who stand in the outfield and stare at butterflies. All he had to do was go on Meet the Press or John King and play with calculators and graphs for a few minutes, and suddenly he's this intimidating genius on all things fiscal. Who was going to call him on it? You don't get the fancy anchor desk by being able to do math.



    One thing I'm surprised hasn't gotten more attention was how the Romney campaign basically hid Paul Ryan from sight after the first few weeks. It's almost like they knew he was actually incompetent and had to hide that fact. If there's one thing I'd like to actually thank Mitt Romney for, it's destroying Paul Ryan's career (the post-election careers of losing veep candidates are anything but pretty). There seems to have been a definite-and welcome-downturn in 'Paul Ryan the genius' crap after the loss.

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  19. Agreed. Conservatives can momentarily get you with this "the modern world is overrun with flabby niceness" trope, because it's true. The thing is, you then look at the movement, which seems to be the biggest assemblage of doughy ignoramuses and upper-middle class petulance history has yet recorded; then you are cured.

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  21. Spaghetti Lee12:00 AM

    "the modern world is overrun with flabby niceness"



    Well, like I said, I'm not a fan, but you don't have to be a conservative to dislike it. Our esteemed host, along with Wonkette, TBogg, the Rude Pundit, and so forth, may be a lot of things, but they're not suffering from flabby niceness.

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  22. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard12:01 AM

    Here's one from the "Continue to make love to that domestic gallinaceous fowl" files:

    Young voters are less likely to view the GOP’s strong record on defense as a net positive, as many have little, if any, memory of the tragic events of September 11, 2001.



    The idea that the GOP has a strong record on defense is entirely a product of the "we say we are strong on defense" self-mythologizing. The young people of voting age, who sure as hell have a memory of the tragic events of 9/11/01 (I can tell you where I was when the "Challenger" exploded), also remember that the Bush administration attacked the wrong people and let Bin Laden get away, only to have the Kenyan get the bad guy.


    Their insistence on the truth of their own mythology is what is ultimately going to sink them. For self-reflection to work, it has to be accurate.

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  23. obama has no choice but to appoint the great santini as his new commerce secretary.

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  24. FMguru12:08 AM

    I do like blaming an entire generation's psychology on "Helicopter Parenting" - which as far as I know is only something found amongst the upper-middle class. Working class parents are too busy, y'know, working to spend every waking moment catering to their kids every need and doing their homework for them.

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    So don't be surprised if the 2017 Cabinet is selected by a GOP politician whose chest long ago collapsed into his drawers.

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  27. All he had to do was go on Meet the Press or John King and play with calculators and graphs for a few minutes

    I confess that I would wallow in schadenfreude if Christie gave Ryan an atomic wedgie during one of the GOP debates.

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  28. FMguru12:15 AM

    Except Ryan couldn't even manage to do that. He showed up on the talk shows with his budget outline, and when the host asked him what programs he was going to cut, he started stammering and muttering and eventually declared that it was all too, too complicated to give a simple answer on a television show about. And this was their great wonkish policy numbercruncher guy. He bombed so badly that he's more-or-less disappeared from the DC media circus (elbowed aside by Rand Paul and Ted Cruz and the rest of the new class of wingnuts).


    I didn't think it was possible to ever be called out on nonsense accounting in service of tax and entitlement cuts in the Village mindset, but Ryan managed to do just that. Really amazing when you think about it.

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  29. montag212:16 AM

    Remember that this is the fruit of the College Republicans, a group in that thirty years of rapacious capitalism since Reagan's ascent that was cheerleading for even more viciousness, duplicity, meanspirited greed, racism and protofascism.

    Does this new crop of warped young things think they're going to undo, with a poll or two, decades of the hard, creepy, nasty work of the likes of Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, Jack Abramoff and Ralph Reed, the same people that sang the praises of monsters like Joseph Savimbi and Roberto D'Aubisson, of apartheid South Africa as a staunch leader in the fight against communism, and generally tried to fuck over and demean every attempt at social justice they encountered.


    Now that they've completely alienated a couple of generations of people they need to put them back into the White House (where they all want jobs), they're concerned. But, as usual, not because they've behaved like children who take delight in blowing up small animals with firecrackers, but because those lost hearts and minds they need to win seem even more distant and irretrievably lost today than just a few years ago.



    Chickens coming home to roost, reaping whirlwinds, etc., etc., etc.

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  30. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard12:41 AM

    If Ryan gave Christie an atomic wedgie, he'd get lost all up in Christie's glutes.


    Remember, I'm heavily invested in brain bleach futures.

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  31. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard12:44 AM

    To continue in this vein, the most recent products of the College Republicans are creeps like James O'Keefe and Adam Sadaver- not the sort of figures with mass appeal.

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  33. I won't give him credit.


    He looks pretty much like a guy trying to make a hundred million dollars by giving the big banks everything they want, just like Bill Clinton did.
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  34. PersonaAuGratin1:04 AM

    "...and upper-middle class petulance..."


    At first glance I read that as "pustulence"...but I guess it works either way.

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  35. little, if any, memory of the tragic events of September 11, 2001


    Let's analyze that statement, shall we? A person who was eighteen years old in time to vote in 2012 would have been born in 1994, meaning that she would have been 7 in 2001. "Little if any memory?" Are you joking? That was likely one of the first things they remembered, and they've been living under a pall of fear ever since. And it's not much better for people who were a little older. I grew up in the age of school shootings, so society was teaching me to be afraid well before 9/11.


    If fear is no longer a viable tactic, maybe the problem lies elsewhere. Maybe people are afraid of more mundane, more real things (say, losing their homes or going bankrupt) instead of Muslims. You think that might be a possibility, Commentary magazine?

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  36. Well, the Republicans already ran with the "You're All Too Stupid to Recognize My Greatness" thing last time, and it didn't work. It seems that they've decided that it failed because, while Romney was an asshole, he wasn't an aggressive asshole. Perhaps their next candidate should just show up to rallies naked and hurl CS into the crowds.

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  37. Jeffrey_Kramer1:53 AM

    Glengarry Yoda: "You fucking close, or don't fucking close; there is no 'try', you fucking loser!"

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  38. Jeffrey_Kramer1:59 AM

    "Giving out prizes for trying is what turned us into a nation of moochers and takers! The only thing that counts is results!"
    "OK, what were the results of putting Republicans in power?"
    A Pinterian pause....

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  39. montag22:29 AM

    But, being loser misfit stalkers of women and extortionists endears them to so many white men in the party! They're like role models to pasty-skinned, weasel-faced, socially stunted right-wing followers everywhere.

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  40. montag22:57 AM

    Yep, a guy whose arms don't reach the ground when laying on his stomach is going to whip the pansies of the party into shape.

    Yeah, a Republican crowd-pleaser--mind of Heinrich Himmler, mouth of Tony Soprano, physique of Humpty Dumpty and the soul of Cornelius Vanderbilt.

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  42. But conservatives LOVE the “participation trophy” mindset! It's what led them to not only elect Bush twice but also defend every stinking failure of King Midas in reverse. That's is, until the end of his reign, when they dumped him for not being conservative enough. In other words, for not turning ENOUGH things into shit. Which is pretty remarkable considering his record.

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  43. The general contempt for voters they're allegedly trying to win is pretty great, too.

    Really, they just need to bottle the special charm offensive they've perfected with African-American voters (contempt plus ignorance, isn't it?) and sell it to every demographic in America.

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    The solution, of course, would be to have some tough guy ride into the
    2016 Republican Convention and tell them they're worthless and weak.



    Actually, I'm hoping that guy -- IYKWIM, AITYD -- dies of a heart attack or some other illness caused by morbid obesity, because he could actually get elected president.

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  50. I still find it amusing that Paul Krugman, of all people, is considered rude. No, he's a patient teacher. He only calls the other columnists out when they write obviously stupid or contradictory things.

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  51. smut clyde8:25 AM

    A recent piece in Psychology Today, entitled “A Nation of Wimps,” describes just how devastating the trendy brand of parenting

    Seriously, if you're trying to lay into the vapid self-obsessions of the idle elite, and to expose the idiots they make of themselves when they follow the pop-psych fads of their peers, then admitting that you read Psychology Today is not a good start.

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  52. Derelict8:26 AM

    Much shorter Conservative response: Listen you fucking shit-for-brains dead-end mooching loser assholes: You should be voting Republican every time. Now, get back to your jobs while we finish doing away with minimum wage and overtime pay!




    Why won't anyone vote for us?!?!?! I don't get it!

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  53. smut clyde8:28 AM

    little, if any, memory of the tragic events of September 11, 2001


    Or perhaps their reason for not respecting the GOP's "strong record on defense" is that they remember Bush & Cheney's most catastrophic failure to defend against a recognised threat.

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  54. redoubt8:43 AM

    With an empty chair as the vice presidential nominee

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  55. Scott Walker is a less-charismatic Tim Pawlenty with rabies. And while present-day Wisconsin is a microcosm of our national political scene in some ways, I don't think the match is exact enough. Now if you'll excuse me, I have to go whistle in the dark.

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  56. Helmut Monotreme8:58 AM

    Scott Walker isn't mediagenic enough to make it in a national race. All the Koch brothers money in the world can't give him charisma. He's got Nixon's good looks, the economic policies of Marie Antoinette, and tact of Donald Trump.

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  57. Dennis9:01 AM

    Obama sure didn't run his campaign on the notion of "trying". And liberal adults didn't reject Hillary and vote for this charlatan because they thought he would "try" harder, either. He ran his campaign on hope and change and doing and fixing, and none of those are coming true. So now all liberal bloggers can say is, 'yeah, well at least he's trying' and then throw in Todd Aiken to the mix for good measure instead of good analysis.


    Todd Aiken, Roy? Seriously?


    C'mon.

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  58. redoubt9:03 AM

    Let's unpack that a little more. That voter was ten years old in 2004, when the Bush administration was reelected by (among other things) convincing voters that Heather Has Two Mommies was more dangerous than Osama bin Laden. But the ten-year-old would have known someone with two mommies (or daddies), and they weren't monsters trying to blow up the world.

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    He's G. Walker Bush, fake resume and all. The only thing he's missing is the advantages of ancestry.

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    none of those are coming true.

    Dow up higher than it was under Bush II, Dennis, as a financial profession you're ignorant of that fact?

    A knotty market mystery unraveled Tuesday, as strong reports on U.S. home prices and consumer confidence sent investors rushing to buy economically sensitive stocks and dump Treasurys.

    The broad rally in stocks pushed the Dow Jones Industrial Average up 106.29 points, or 0.69%, to a new high of 15409.39, while giving the blue-chip measure its 20th consecutive Tuesday of gains.

    The move helped answer a persistent market head-scratcher of 2013: how long could unglamorous "defensive" stocks such as utilities and telecommunications companies power the unexpectedly robust stock-market rally?

    So far this year, the Dow has moved 18% higher without even a
    three-day string of losses, in large part due to investors' predilection for defensive stocks, which are less sensitive to the rocky economic recovery and deliver steady, attractive yields.

    Get serious, Dennis, instead of being a Republican WATB.

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    I think it will be D. Trump, running on the platform of "when I'm elected, YOU'RE FIRED!!!!!!" Republicans will interpret this as only applying to black people, and be wrong yet again.

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  66. Dennis10:42 AM

    Artificially lowering interest rates to near-zero and a Federal Reserve borrowing money to buy mortgage securities, allowing companies to lower costs without hiring, yes, eventually you will see stock prices move up.

    Still, DA, you have yet to find a job with this higher stock market. Along with 9.5 million other Americans who have dropped out of the workforce since the Tryer-in-Chief took office.

    #winningbytrying

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    The Republican Party: Trying. Very Trying.

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  68. Chris Christie it is, then.

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  69. Dennis10:49 AM

    Given it's unpopularity and the fact that the word 'Affordable' in the act's title, which you know to be bullshit now, seems weird that you'd be saying 'ha ha fuck you' Halloween.

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    The insistence on a mythology that is 2 dimensionally cartoonish has a certain appeal to a segment of society. Their ultimate authority is the cartoonist du jour who is animating them.

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  71. Get Chutney Love10:54 AM

    Poor Dennis, worried about my tanking the economy by not being a cubicle serf like him.

    allowing companies to lower costs without hiring,

    And who does that 'allowing' Dennis?

    Along with 9.5 million other Americans who have dropped out of the workforce since the Tryer-in-Chief took office.

    Wrong, wrong, wrong, Dennis, you have to work very hard to be this wrong:

    Obama’s Numbers (Quarterly Update)Analysis

    Jobs: Obama Beats Bush

    Now that we have figures for the full four
    years of Obama’s first term, a surprising fact emerges: The economy added more jobs during four years under Obama than it did in the entire eight years under Bush.

    By the time of Obama’s second inaugural in
    January, the economy had added a net total of 1,208,000 jobs since he was first sworn in four years earlier, according to current figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That beats George W. Bush’s eight-year total of 1,083,000.


    And so far, Obama is extending his lead
    over Bush. Counting jobs added in February, his total now stands at a net gain of over 1.5 million jobs.


    Neither president’s record is good by
    historical standards, especially when compared with the 22.8 million jobs added during Bill Clinton’s eight years in office. The Bush years were hampered by a recession and prolonged job slump that began within weeks of his taking office in 2001, and later by the devastating recession of 2007-2009.

    The economy lost 8.7 million jobs as a
    result of the 2007-2009 recession, the worst since the Great Depression of the 1930s. Those losses included 4.4 million jobs lost during Bush’s final year, and another 4.3 million during Obama’s first 13 months in office. But since then, all the jobs initially lost under Obama have been regained, plus another 1,564,000.

    Your statistics suck like the gravity well of a neutron star, Dennis.

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  74. glennisw10:58 AM

    Millennials seem particularly susceptible to this “participation trophy” mindset,


    Stupid kids. They think creating legislation and appropriating budgets is some kind of collaborative act!

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  75. glennisw10:59 AM

    Like Bethany, Dennis seems to think that creating and passing legislation and appropriating budgets is something that can be done by one guy all by himself.

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  76. montag211:02 AM

    Yeah, good catch, but, ultimately, who the fuck cares? He's still a monster.

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  79. Dennis11:05 AM

    First of all, you're trying to brag about a wonderful world that has left you still unemployed after four years of Obama. Second, you attempt to refute a point I made with a question. And third, you copy and paste with reckless abandon without addressing the fact you're pretending to refute, which is your stock in trade.

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  80. glennisw11:06 AM

    If you measure a party's defense record based on the tragic events of 9/11, the GOP doesn't come off too good. To call out 9/11 as the one shining moment that shows the wisdom and strength of the GOP is utter lunacy.

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  82. Get Chutney Love11:09 AM

    First of all, you're trying to brag about a wonderful world that has left you still unemployed after four years of Obama

    How do you know when my 'unemployment' started, Dennis?

    Second, you attempt to refute a point I made with a question.

    Nope, I merely demonstrated that you're all hat and no cattle when it comes to the economy.

    And third, you copy and paste with reckless abandon without addressing
    the fact you're pretending to refute, which is your stock in trade.



    More jobs created under 4 years of Obama than 8 years of Bush, which pretty much refutes your imaginary figure of how many people have quit looking for work. It's called facts, Dennis, something I know you have a severe psychological problem with these days.

    Have a good lunch, cowboi.

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  83. gocart mozart11:12 AM

    The nominee will be Ted Cruz. You heard it hear first.

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  84. montag211:15 AM

    Yeah, and I'm fuckin' heartbroken by it. I get all bent out of shape by criticism from slow learners.

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  85. Dennis11:16 AM

    Yeah, we know they're unaware of the provisions. And when they find out, they're a lookin' but they ain't a-likin'. Like being told that 'some people live and some people die, so sorry about that lung transplant you need, dearie'.

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  86. Dennis11:20 AM

    How do you know when my 'unemployment' started, Dennis?

    Why do you answer a question with a question all the time? If I'm wrong about your being unemployed under and economy and a president you're doting on, then just say what he's done for you.

    Nope, I merely demonstrated that you're all hat and no cattle when it comes to the economy.

    No, you answered a question with a question and didn't say anything offering any kind of helpful or enlightening refutation. A habit you're overly comfortable with.

    which pretty much refutes your imaginary figure of how many people have quit looking for work

    No it didn't.

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  87. Ellis_Weiner11:20 AM

    Sure. A working-class nanny is something to be.

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  88. gocart mozart11:22 AM

    I would lend this comment some money to tide it over until it finds another job.

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  89. gocart mozart11:23 AM

    You left out "All women who are on the pill are sluts!" but otherwise, good comment.

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  90. dstatton11:25 AM

    When they hear "strong defense", they think Iraq, not 9/11. Of course at Commentary, that is not a negative.

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  91. Ellis_Weiner11:27 AM

    "doughy ignoramuses"


    Yesterday NPR interviewed some bright young GOP thing about this story, and she unblushingly (you could tell even though it was radio) reported that young Republicans think of themselves as "intelligent." I waited--in vain!--for Audie Cornish, the interviewer, to ask, "And yet you're in the party that 'doesn't believe in' global warming or evolution, so, WTF? Delusional much?"

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  92. Ellis_Weiner11:36 AM

    I would like to take this comment out to the ballgame. I don't care if we never get back.

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  93. Sorry, but Ted was born outside the US, and only his mother was an American citizen. So he'd be unable to get on the ballot in a bunch of red states.


    Also, remember what happened when the race was between a financially well-connected former Northeastern governor widely-if-falsely perceived as a moderate Republican, and a bunch of insufficiently indistinguishable batshit theocrats? If Ted is the nominee, it's because he somehow finds a way to distinguish himself from Rand and Marco, and "Blabbering really fucking stupid stuff in the Senate" ain't it. Otherwise, the illiterate pro-treason teabaggin' Talibornagain vote gets split again, and Franklin Graham has to stick his hand back up Daddy's ass and mouth the words "Vote for the person who will uphold Christian values by having 'Christ' in his last name somewhere, which is totally not endorsing a particular candidate, so there, IRS."

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  94. Uncle Kvetch11:48 AM

    Like being told that 'some people live and some people die, so sorry about that lung transplant you need, dearie'.


    Thank FSM that never happens now.

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  95. sharculese11:54 AM

    Gonna go change my name to Ronald Shartchrist, run as a Republican in '16.

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  96. Dennis11:56 AM

    So then tell me why Halloween Jack is boasting 'ha ha fuck you' about the ACA, Uncle K.

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  97. LookWhosInTheFreezer12:05 PM

    We're so good on National Security, we had a security brief titled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike In Us" that was written before 9/11. Suck on that Lib-tards!!1!

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  98. The tragic events on 9/11 pretty much proved beyond a doubt that Repubs suck at Nat'l Security.

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  99. gocart mozart12:08 PM

    Dennis is cool with Free Market Death Panels.

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  100. Well, the Noam Chomksy in the right's head is always frothing at the mouth. I'd much rather read him than listen to him because his speaking style is somnambulant.

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  101. Actually, it's more like, "when the craziest part of your base grabs the steering wheel, put the pedal to the metal".

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  102. It's perfectly okay when insurance companies do it. After all, then somebody profits from it. And the bottom line is the only line that matters.

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  103. gocart mozart1:01 PM

    "You complain about me ramming things down your throats, I'll give you something to complain about."!

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  104. Dennis1:02 PM

    Hey, I'm fully employed and I think the economy sucks.
    Then you and I are in agreement.

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  105. gocart mozart1:03 PM

    "Sorry, but Ted was born outside the US, and only his mother was an American citizen. So he'd be unable to get on the ballot in a bunch of red states."
    Assumes logical consistency not in evidence.

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  106. You know what they say about presuming? It makes a pressurized boil out of... well, only you.

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  107. Well, yes, that's always the risk with Franklin's ham-handed attempts to avoid outright electioneering. In 2012, it was "Vote for Christian values," which could technically have provided cover to vote for the mainstream Christian instead of the member of what Billy Graham used to call a cult. Or induced people simply not to vote for the top of the ticket when the choice was between a Muslim and a Mormon. So by all means, exploit the loopholes.



    Shartchrist 2016: When you're tired of nothing but gas from politicians.

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  108. Dennis1:10 PM

    Maybe if he had a Congress where he could pass a jobs bill to improve
    our crumbling roads and bridges, instead of a bunch of Jackasses who
    prefer to obstruct any approach to the economy other than defense
    spending or cutting taxes that Obama presents to them.

    Maybe if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, DA. Obama didn't campaign with the 'Maybe if' qualifier, did he? Or even "I'll try my best." He campaigned on blaming Bush. And he's still doing it. As are you.

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  109. Get Chutney Love1:30 PM

    Maybe if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle, DA.

    Nice, nuanced political dialog, Dennis, but you don't question the facts, just as the fact that your aunt doesn't have any balls.

    Now, any ideas on how Obama gets something through the House besides tax cuts and preserving military spending? He promised to fix the economy, no ifs, ands, or butts about it?

    Obama didn't campaign with the 'Maybe if' qualifier, did he? Or even "I'll try my best."

    Mitch McConnell said that his priority as Senate Minority Leader was to make Obama a one-term President. Sometimes politicians, left and right, make promises they can't keep. I blame Obama for making a liar of McConnell.

    See how that works?

    He campaigned on blaming Bush.

    Sure, because everyone was blaming the economy tanking on the Dixie Chicks before that.

    A presidential candidate blaming the other side?

    That never happened before.

    So Mitt Romney visits an shuttered factory in Ohio and opines:

    “Had the president’s economic plans worked ... it would be open by now, but it’s still empty,” Romney said. “It underscores the failure of this president’s policies with regards to getting this economy going again. The other day, the president was in Ohio, and he said that this campaign was going to come down to his vision. His vision for America. If you want to know where his vision leads, open your
    eyes, because we’ve been living it for the last three years.”

    The factory, however, was shut down during the Bush administration, in June 2008. Yet nonetheless, Mitt Romney's campaign blames President Obama:

    “The fact that it struggled through the last three years is not the fault of Barack Obama’s predecessor, it’s the fault of this administration and the failure of their policies to really get this economy going again,” said Eric Fehrnstrom, a Romney aide.

    What a load of bullshit. When President Bush took office, there were17.1 million manufacturing jobs in the country. By the end of his term,there were 12.5 million—and falling fast. We still haven't recovered to that level, but over the past two years, America has gained 500,000 manufacturing jobs. Compare that with the 1.5 million lost in Bush's last two years in office.


    Less than 4 hours, Dennis, you can do it! Just don't trample anyone on the way out today.

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  110. Actually, Obama is done campaigning. Term limits. Other than that, it's not blaming Bush (however much blame he DOES deserve). It's the Republian congress he blames. And that everyone should blame.

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  111. Dennis2:10 PM

    Actually, Obama is done campaigning.

    C'mon, you know that's not true. Not living in this country is no excuse for believing that, you still have the internet to keep you informed, HMDK.

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  112. Howlin Wolfe2:10 PM

    Re: Krugman being "rude": I never got that either. He's assertive in the sense he doesn't equivocate or flip-flop in his opinions (unless he's convinced by solid evidence, then he'll admit it). But he's fairly soft spoken, at least when I've heard him. And he doesn't make personal remarks about the people he disagrees, unlike some pundits I can think of, though he'll point to the vapidity of their arguments.

    It hurts the guardians of conventional wisdom and village-approved debatable topics when he doesn't acknowledge their limits on such things. That's rude,in their book.

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  113. Dennis2:14 PM

    Now, any ideas on how Obama gets something through the House besides tax cuts and preserving military spending? He promised to fix the economy, no ifs, ands, or butts about it?

    Your 20 Questions gig is boring, DA. As is your endless loops of copypasta tripe. Give it a rest, willya. Good lord. Find a way to make money off it, or something, but you're addicted to the Google/Copy/Paste routine on 98% of your posts.

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  114. Jay B.2:28 PM

    The GOP's reliance on 9/11 and the world destruction in its wake as proof of their "foreign policy dominance" is exactly the same if the Democrats ran on a policy for Benghazi for All.

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  115. johnwcasey3:31 PM

    totally agree that guy could get elected President. What he cannot do, is get nominated.

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  116. Yeah, he might "campaign" for his replacement, but that isn't even close to being the same thing. And you LIVE in the U.S., but seem to have no clue how Insurance works. I actually live in a country with universal healthcare. But would you listen to my experiences with it? Nope.

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  117. Get Chutney Love4:07 PM

    Don't confuse Dennis with the facts.

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  118. Get Chutney Love4:09 PM

    Your 20 Questions gig is boring, DA. As is your endless loops of copypasta tripe.


    As is your idiotic routine of getting personal when the political becomes something you can't answer, and dismissing the facts as 'copypasta'.


    Less than an hour left, Den-Den. Try not to trample anyone on the way out of the office today, Dennis.

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  119. If life hands you melons, you're probably dyslexic.

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  120. And speaking of death panels, anybody happy with their insurance company? :-)

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  121. TomParmenter7:12 PM

    Warning: 25 feet of Dennis just below.

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  122. Jeffrey_Kramer9:04 PM

    Or induced people simply not to vote for the top of the ticket when the choice was between a Muslim and a Mormon.


    Well, it might have, except that Franklin's take on the Mormon question was more like "Can a Christian vote for a Mormon for President? Yes. Oh, yes. God, yes! Oh Jesus yes, yes, please, yes, yes, YES!"

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  124. j_bird9:15 AM

    The participation trophy mindset has been around for a long time. It's just that Millenials were raised to believe that everyone deserves a little bit of it, not just rich white people.

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  125. I love this analogy:

    "Obama does pretty much look like a guy with a mop trying to clean up after Hurricane Sandy, and you can't help but feel for him."

    I agree with most of the people here. Without a doubt, the tragedy that happened on 9/11 was proof that Republican's weakness is national security. :(

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  126. cleter5:31 PM

    Strong record on defense? Wasn't the last time a Republican administration won a war back in 1865?

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  127. cleter5:36 PM

    Chris Christie is Guiliani in a Fat Bastard costume. He's not going to be the nominee. Rand Paul probably already has ads showing Christie morphing into Obama in the can.

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