...about the
"conservative reform" conversations that were taking place in the royal box while the groundlings were yelling BENGHAZI LIES and IMPEACH. Speaking of which, the libertarians who figure prominently in these discussions -- as avatars of conservatism with the gloves off, so to speak -- also bring us
this, at
Reason:
Should Obama Be Impeached?
We’ve had too few impeachments in American history, not too many...
I'm not convinced that any of President Obama's recent scandal eruptions constitute an "impeachable moment." But...
Already it's gold.
...surely something's gone wrong with our constitutional culture when opinion leaders treat the very invocation of the "I-word" as akin to screaming obscenities in a church.
Similarly, why do people talk about "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants" as if it's something we can't just do right here right now? It ain't freedom till we do some waterin'! This is the kind of
apocalyptic mentality you drum up when you want something x-treme to happen before anyone thinks too much about it.
Interesting post over here. Well informed. Thank you
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Exhibit A:
ReplyDelete"... those who are more libertarian "believe that in an ideal world, the
social safety net wouldn't be considered a proper function of government, especially the federal government."
Exhibit B:
"At P.A.U.L.Fest in Tampa last year I watched Walter Block -- no natural
rights slouch, him -- give a speech on his theory of a woman's right to
evict a fetus but not kill it, citing competing rights to autonomy and
life... until the invention of artificial wombs it's entirely theoretical. "
These masterpieces will look adorable in the Libertarian Thought Experiment Museum, which will be built just as soon as the David H. Koch Foundation decides to stop wasting its money on those NOVA shows on PBS that keep yammering on about the glaciers melting.
jesus wept, its like a comic con panel in hell. all this needed was andrew garfield showing up in a barry goldwater mask at the end to tell the brethren how conscience of a conservative got him through the tough times in high school
ReplyDeleteAh yes, the Tea Party -- along with "Whip My Hair" the big hit of 2010.
ReplyDeleteI wave the Gadsden flag back and forth, I wave the Gadsden flag back and forth...
It must have been tough reading in the dark while spending hours jammed in his locker...
ReplyDeleteI had trouble believing there was a thing called PAULfest for a moment but then I remembered that even super lame people need to pretend to have a good time.
ReplyDeleteAs they say in the Commons Question time: "I refer the right honourable (friend/gentleman/lady) to the answer I gave some moments ago."
ReplyDeleteI'm super lame and I don't.
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, there seems to be a misspelling. That should have been PAULfestung.
ReplyDeleteHe was bitten by a radioactive Bush Baby.
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I see that Megan McArdle continues to be Megan McArdle. Doctors have given up hope.
ReplyDelete...surely something's gone wrong with our constitutional culture when
ReplyDeleteopinion leaders treat the very invocation of the "I-word" as akin to
screaming obscenities in a church.
Oh, well, now that we've cleared the air & all, maybe we can have a nice public conversation about sending Bush and Cheney to the Hague to face charges for war crimes.
...what?
PALLfest.
ReplyDeleteI'm kinda with Healy here. The president has used secret law to kill an American citizen without trial, and even THAT isn't enough for people to talk about impeaching him. Also started an illegal war, which was an unpopular thing to do at one point.
ReplyDeleteIf illegally killing a ton of people isn't enough for him to be worth impeaching, what WOULD he have to do for him to be worth impeaching?
As far as I can tell, the answer is "Make Tea Party groups fill out too much paperwork".
I don't fucking understand this country at all.
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ReplyDeleteReason: Are the rich paying too much in taxes to support moochers? I'm certainly not saying they're not paying enough! But surely something's gone wrong with our culture when opinion leaders emotionally preach class warfare and treat rational defenses of the needy rich as akin to screaming obscenities in a church.
Andrew Sullivan: Are blacks mentally inferior? I'm not entirely convinced they are, but surely something's gone wrong with our culture when opinion leaders treat the very invocation of the "n-word" as akin to screaming obscenities in a church.
Donald Trump (and Co.): Is Barack Obama a socialist born in Kenya? I'm not entirely convinced he's American, but surely something's gone wrong with our culture when opinion leaders treat the very invocation of "show us the birth certificate, boy" as akin to screaming obscenities in a church.
Jeff Gannon (remember him?): "Doesn't Joe Wilson owe the President and America an apology for his deception and his own intelligence failure?" I'm not entirely convinced he's an actual traitor in the legal sense, but surely something's gone wrong with our culture when opinion leaders don’t treat any and all questioning of the Bush administration as akin to screaming obscenities in a church. (Also, those Democrats. "How are you going to work with people who seem to have divorced themselves from reality?")
Rush Limbaugh: Is Sandra Fluke a slut? Does she perform sexual acts for money? I'm not saying she's not a dirty slut, but surely something's gone wrong with our culture when opinion leaders treat lying about a citizen's testimony and bullying a woman as akin to screaming obscenities in a church. (Seriously, you communist feminazis make me sick.)
Umm, just a few minor observations. To wit:
ReplyDeleteIf these fuckin' jerkwads were so goddamned intent on impeaching somebody (with non-partisan fervor, mind you), they could have started on Gerald Ford for pardoning Nixon for totally specious reasons, then gone on to impeaching Reagan for throwing an election via treason, and then having the CIA steal military stores to sell to the Iranians in order to fund a private, off-the-books army in Central America which was using the money to terrorize a country with which we were not at war, and to smuggle drugs into the U.S., or... they could have taken Bush the Elder to the cleaners for waging war against an ally, Panama, in which thousands of Panamanians were killed and hundreds of thousands more were dispossessed and terrified, not to mention a few of our own soldiers killed and some of our very expensive aircraft destroyed, or for his suckering Hussein into a war that he and his cronies created just to get the national security bandwagon back on track after the dissolution of the Soviet so-called threat. Or... they could have impeached Clinton for a blowjob (oh, right, waitaminute, they did that). Or, they could have drawn-and-quartered Bush the Younger and his sidekick, Black Dick, for war crimes and wholesale theft of the Treasury via corporate corruption. But, no, they didn't do all those things, because they're fucking skeevy right-wing bullshit artists who would no sooner suggest those actions than they would donate money to Planned Parenthood or write fond monographs about FDR.
And, as for Gerson, perhaps he's too young to remember, but, the propagandists for the Nazis were very nearly as deep in the bucket as the Nazi war criminals themselves. He'd do well to just shut the fuck up for a while.
Hmm. Tax incentives for bigger families? Bet that one's got MeMeMeMeMeMeMeMeMeMegan stamping her widdle feet.
Re: Brooks: I send out fervent telepathic messages to Moral Hazard, begging him to take a chunk out of the fleshy back of his master's thigh as he walks by. Not so much to keep him honest, which is a hopeless task, but because he deserves every one of the shots in the rabies treatment.
First of all, I dream of seeing this comment on the other side of a field of daisies, a bit of Vaseline on my glasses, its hair blowing in the wind as we run to meet halfway for a tumble in the middle on a red and white gingham blanket next to a wicker picnic basket.
ReplyDeletePart the second, I don't think rabies treatments require nearly the amount of pain and suffering, nor 6 inch invasive fourteen gauge needles as they once did, but I'd be happy, in this case, to fire up the time machine, drop Brooks of at a time when they had no treatment for rabies, and take care of any injustices the winsome comment might deem appropriate.
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Why don't the Republicans just seek a Constitutional amendment to make being a Democrat an impeachable offense?
ReplyDeleteThe best part about the Libertarian Thought Experiment Museum is that they won't even have to buy a building. All their "thought" will fit nicely under a bronze* plaque, bolted to whatever structure they have handy.
ReplyDeleteLibertarian propaganda, however, seems to be roaring along, as evidenced by our host's frequent** guided tours.
*Or you could cast it in aluminum and call it "Rearden Metal", if you wanted to fool approximately nobody.
**Thanks, Roy.
I guess I understand why conservative writers discuss reform. Their vestigial rational side gives them pain, or they're bored of being red meat purveyors. It seems a bit vain though. Why should they worry about whether their message makes sense? How do they know that, for every conservative intellectual they lose, they won't gain two conservative morons?
ReplyDeleteI'll bet they could get bipartisan support for it...
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Given the complete tone-deaf nature of the modern GOP, I'm hoping the impeachment fever ramps up to the point they actually do impeach late next summer. That way the Senate can acquit Obama in time for the midterms, which should then be a complete Democratic landslide.
ReplyDeleteHey, a boy can dream, can't he?
After explaining that I had indeed read all of atlas shrugged (somehow learning the opposite lessons, having previously read the communist manifesto), and the Fountainhead, Anthem, etc, I was asked why I had done so.
ReplyDeleteI could not come up with an answer that did not involve a couple of friends that were really into Rand at the time and lament that I have yet to read the Leviathan and that some of Shakespeare's work is still on the list of things unread that should be.
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Feature, bug, you decide.
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akin to screaming obscenities in a church.
ReplyDeleteIs this a bad thing now? Whoops.
Well played. An excellent formula.
ReplyDeleteIs the American Catholic hierarchy getting out of hand? I'm not convinced that their war on women, contraception, and legal abortion necessitates a vocal outcry in the sanctuary, but something's gone wrong with our religious culture when opinion leaders treat telling bishops to go fuck themselves as akin to screaming obscenities in a church.
Thanks for the first chuckle of the day...Which then led to dark thoughts...Remember all of those moderate, non Klanhood wearing Republican politicians? Eisenhower and Rockefeller come to mind...Their philosophical heirs call themselves democrats now, and are unwittingly involved in the same "Overton Window relocation activities" as the Bircher loons that are now firmly in charge of the Republi"can I get an 11th Century Christo-Fascist Feudal State party started!"
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Thank you, Bat. After that comment, I guess the rest of us can take the rest of the year off...
ReplyDeleteThe thing is, "reform" to them simply means "change up our game plan so that we can win national elections again without doing anything to displease our overlords and/or alienate the base." The conservative morons aren't a bug...
ReplyDeleteI hope that you seriously didn't mean "Black Dick" as a pejorative term.
ReplyDeleteJeff Gannon (remember him?): "Doesn't Joe Wilson owe the President and America an apology for his deception and his own intelligence failure? hard core top, verbal and strong, never romantic, but not mean,” who “likes nipple play” and knows “how to take charge and take care of a horny bottom”
ReplyDelete(sorry, but it never gets old)
Well, except for ones that are hoping to outlive her so that they can find out how she's passed for human (mostly) all these years.
ReplyDeleteRichard the Black-Hearted sounded too much like a swashbuckling pirate....
ReplyDeleteDepends on whether you are doing it with an alter boy trapped under you or not. I'm pretty sure that the first version is still ok while doing it for ACT UP from the cheap seats is still verboten.
ReplyDeleteI just stick with "Darth Cheney", mostly.
ReplyDeleteThe Hague is part of Satan's New World Order and violates our FreeDumb. Let's tar and feather them like the Founders would have wanted.
ReplyDeleteAs I've said before, here's your answer: The reason to read Atlas Shrugged is to understand how you never have to take seriously, ever again, anyone who likes it.
ReplyDelete(Oh, and, of course, to enjoy this: http://tinyurl.com/3du9ldh )
The only note about the masthead revolves around an ad for a Reason guide available for download (talk about a free lunch), which will likely appear at the bottom of this comment.
ReplyDeleteThe first sentence:
You may be appalled about IRS inquisitions for Tea Party groups
and dragnet subpoenas for investigative reporters, but what's
really outrageous, according to some commentators, is that a couple
of Republicans recently dared to use the
"I-word"—"impeachment."
I may be, according to some, appalled at the attempt to conflate the "N-word" with "Impeachment."
I do wonder what a diorama of the wingnut universe might look like, and suppose that one might start with Flatland as a template.
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Dick "dick" Cheney
ReplyDeleteWasn't that amendment already passed? 1992 I think it was.
ReplyDeleteAnd, of course, this:
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Of relevance, from TPM: Why GOP Scandal Mongers Can't Have Nice Things.
ReplyDeleteThen again, remember VP Nixon and the Rockefeller drug laws?
ReplyDeleteYou have to get a jump on revisionist history.
ReplyDeleteSee, screaming cuss words is bad. Obscenities broadly defined, not so much.
ReplyDeleteOf course. I was just using them as examples of partially sane Republicans. Hell, these days Nixon would have to run as a democrat to get elected.
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...surely something's gone wrong with our constitutional culture when opinion leaders treat the very invocation of the "I-word" as akin to screaming obscenities in a church
ReplyDeleteWhat about SHOOTING people in a church? Conservatives seem OK with that.
Reason has made such a mess of itself, BY messing itself, for so long that no one not already idiotic would swallow their scum.
ReplyDeleteIKR?
ReplyDeleteFor crying out loud. You read Altas Shrugged when you're a fourteen year old boy so you can jerk off. That's the only reason.
ReplyDeleteI was 19 or 20 when I dipped my ladle into the poison well. I was also able to argue afterwards that she was full of shit which probably hampered future attempts to get laid...
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Most fourteen-year-olds are satisfied with much easier methods, like reading a giant book that actually has sexy content, or possibly not even reading a giant book at all.
ReplyDeleteI had to look up IKR?
ReplyDeleteI will add it to the toolkit. thanks_Jack.
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I was saved from reading Rand because by the time I got to adolescence, I had already figured out that bad writing wasn't worth my time. I read a few pages into Atlas Shrugged and concluded that nothing could happen in the story that would make it worth suffering through the epic bad writing, and went back to reading shit like Stephen King and Orwell.
ReplyDeleteThis reminds me of my brother-in-law telling about one of his relatives, a woman with Tourette's who attends a Pentecostal church. I really want to go and watch sometime, but I know I wouldn't be able to keep from laughing.
ReplyDeleteJosh just has a bit of a mancrush on Byron York's hair, Milton.
ReplyDeleteI do wonder what a diorama of the wingnut universe might look like
ReplyDeleteBoing-Boing is here to help:
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Coprolalia is occasionally a symptom of Tourette's, many people with Tourette's don't have it.
ReplyDeleteI used to work with a guy who had Tourette's- he'd have pretty frequent tics, and once in a while, he'd have a major episode which looked like a convulsion- sometimes, he'd jump out of his chair. The first time this happened was very disconcerting, but I got used to it pretty quickly. He never exhibited coprolalia in the years that I worked with him.
Then there's this timeless classic:
ReplyDeleteMom: "Kyle, you've been in that bathroom for over an hour! Come out of there RIGHT NOW, and bring that Copy of Atlas Shrugged with you!"
Kyle: "Aww, MAAAM...
an alter boy trapped under you or not
ReplyDeleteVeiled Castrati reference??
Special shout-out to Jonah.
ReplyDeleteI was feeling bad for a minute, but not being a big horror aficionado, Rand will have to stand in for all of the King I will never read...The last 1200 pages was quite the slog if I remember, and then their was my best friend whose council suggested that I was wasting my time*, but I was a rebellious youth...and after reading the Fountainhead, I developed a fascination with Trainwrecks, for a moment fancied myself a writer (and saint's be praised, if nothing else Rand can convince a young man that he might have some chops.)
ReplyDelete*He was partially right, but I will say that learning the wrong lessons from turgid sophistry can be beneficial...
/rambling mess above made by somebody who just woke up and has an eighth grade brain crush on Jennifer.
As brevity has left the building I will hope to catch a ride on discretion...
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I guess everything's gonna fine as long as the people agree.
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What can we do to make sure the USA remains the strongest force in the world for Good, and becomes a more stable environment for freedom and business at home? I know: Impeach its chief executive early and often! QED.
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