Ultimately, Gatsby is the great American novel of the ways in which free markets (even, and perhaps especially, black markets) overturn established order and recreate the world through what Joseph Schumpeter called “creative destruction.”We're livin' in that orgastic future that year by year recedes before us, baby, and lovin' it! Gillespie also seems to think Meyer Wolfsheim is the hero of the book, and that The Sound and the Fury is "dated."
Sometimes all you need to become a philistine is a philosophy.
So... was the end missing from Gillespie's copy? Or is it just that he's an illiterate, posturing, manchild.
ReplyDeleteI guess it doesn't have to be either/or.
...The Sound and the Fury is "dated."
ReplyDeleteSaid the idiot, removing all doubt.
I broke my police against boat-getting-out-of to see what Gillespie had to say about The Sound and the Fury, since I'm rereading Absalom, Absalom right now and it still devastates me, and holy ballmunching shit:
ReplyDeleteWhile other U.S. novels written around the same time—Hemingway’s The Sun Also Rises, say, or Faulkner’s The Sound and the Fury—still have their critical admirers and literary influence, they don’t inhabit the national imagination as they used to.
It couldn't possibly be the case that The Great Gatsby is a staple of high school reading lists that's accessible and vivid, or that it's packed with the sort of glitzy spectacle that makes it ripe for adaptation as, oh I don't know, a Baz Luhrman movie, no it's got to be something something capitalism rox.
Nicky, I'm sorry Faulkner's too much of a challenge for you, but don't try to blame a better man than you for the fact that you're a lazy, thoughtless shit.
I roll my yellow eyes in his general direction.
ReplyDeleteSometimes all you need to become a philistine is a philosophy.
ReplyDeleteI'm not aware of any way that screaming "MINE! MINE!" amounts to anything like a philosophy, but I guess that's as close as most 4-year-olds ever get to one.
Ultimately, Gatsby is the great American novel of the ways in which free markets (even, and perhaps especially, black markets) overturn established order and recreate the world through what Joseph Schumpeter called “creative destruction.”
ReplyDeleteThis really is too stupid for words, but...I...can't...resist...I mean seriously, does Gillespie look up to Joe Kennedy, the Patriarch gangster who rode bootlegging into massive wealth and a clutch of liberal progeny? And the punchline of Gatsby, of course, is that the dreamers from the West/Midwest, like Fitzgerald himself, went East and got the shit kicked out of them by the established order.
Also, too, nutpicking (christ why am I doing this to myself), but here is the glibertarianist comment it is possible to make:
ReplyDeleteThe more I read English Majors writing about Literature the more I'm convinced they know nothing of the subject. Fitzgerald was a third rate hack. So was Salinger. Indeed, save Sinclair Lewis, the only 20th century American fiction worth reading is science fiction.
And by "science fiction", they really mean "Heinlein and Rand", and even by "Heinlein" they really mean "Starship Troopers", and by "Starship Troopers" they really mean "I pretended that I read the book, but really just saw the movie."
ReplyDeleteI think that's the first time the Fonz has rendered me speechless. What an absolute fucking jackass.
ReplyDeleteWell gosh. I had to go read the full Gatsby exegesis. Ya know, it's not that's it's wrong, exactly (although, oof, it misses some tonal stuff in the book and gets emphases wrong), it's that Gillespie doesn't seem to understand the parts where he's right. He's pretty perceptive about Nick's retreat from the city! But somehow from this he concludes that the book says conservatives like himself are the ones speaking for the future? Because they're beleaguered, decidedly not the establishment? Instead, they're trying to destroy the old ways and create the future! Just look at how readily conservatives accept Joe Arpaio, even though his name ends in a vowel, because he's holding a "serious discussion" about immigration. Meanwhile the "establishment" refuses to engage with the real world, instead guarding their old ways: Just look at their leader, Jack Valenti! Jacki Valenti is the one in retreat from the chaos and adventure of the modern world, while Joe Arpaio is very serious.
ReplyDeleteHe seems to understand Gatsby the book! It IS partly about old ways falling apart and the anxiety engendered in the old guard. But how the hell he doesn't see he's anxious Tom Buchanan at the dinner table saying, "See, the idea is that we're Nordics. You, me, all of us [not Daisy], we're Nordics, and we have responsibilities..."
That's not fair, they also pretend to have read The Moon is a Harsh Mistress.
ReplyDeleteAnd I assumed his assessment also included a fair share of David Weber style milporn.
Holy crap. That seems like an impossible opinion to hold!
ReplyDelete"You're as crazy as a nebula of crap."
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Truly, 20C American sf was the playground of the most giant of literary giants.
and by "Starship Troopers" they really mean "I pretended that I read the book, but really just saw the movie."
ReplyDeleteWell, maybe, but Heinlein took himself seriously, while Verhoeven made the fascist subtext into heavy-handed text, and I don't think he meant it to be in a good way. Then again, these are people who don't notice (or pretend not to notice) that their admirable Tea Party movement was much more impressive in the original German.
I'll assume that his promotion of this book over Hemingway or Faulkner is ">due not only to the imminent movie but also to its being so short, and available online, the easier to give it a quick review prior to grinding out a column about it. (Yes, I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt.) I wonder if there was any recognition on Gillespie's part at this:
ReplyDeleteA stout, middle-aged man, with enormous owl-eyed spectacles, was sitting somewhat drunk on the edge of a great table, staring with unsteady concentration at the shelves of books. As we entered he wheeled excitedly around and examined Jordan from head to foot.
“What do you think?” he demanded impetuously.
“About what?” He waved his hand toward the book-shelves.
“About that. As a matter of fact you needn’t bother to ascertain. I ascertained. They’re real.”
“The books?”
He nodded.
“Absolutely real — have pages and everything. I thought they’d be a nice durable cardboard. Matter of fact, they’re absolutely real. Pages and — Here! Lemme show you.”
Taking our scepticism for granted, he rushed to the bookcases and returned with Volume One of the “Stoddard Lectures.”
“See!” he cried triumphantly. “It’s a bona-fide piece of printed matter. It fooled me. This fella’s a regular Belasco. It’s a triumph. What thoroughness! What realism! Knew when to stop, too — didn’t cut the pages. But what do you want? What do you expect?”
I'm at this moment imagining Scott Fitzgerald querying himself from the grave: "Was my point that fucking obscure?"
ReplyDeleteAs for Gillespie's "... they don't inhabit the national imagination as they used to," that's probably true, because they're part of one era of a long national history of literature. The Sound and the Fury was first published in 1929, almost 85 years ago. There's been many tons of tripe gone through the cultural shredder between then and now, so the fact that it's remembered at all says something about its endurance, something to which Gillespie seems obdurately indifferent.
The great mystery here is why a guy who hates good books, and who obviously misunderstands them and willfully misrepresents them, nevertheless feels compelled to write about them. Perhaps it's the same impulse that causes Bill Gates to think, after a lifetime of peddling software that mostly annoys people, that he's an expert on education. Except that Gilliespie, after a few years of peddling horseshit to coprophiles, suddenly thinks he's Malcolm Cowley.
Yeah, that's why the book ends with Gatsby leading a long and happy and satisfied life. Because he harnessed the power of the free market.
ReplyDeleteHuh?
Interesting points. There are all kinds of ways to look at Gatsby, and Nick's anxiety at the world not being what he thought it was is certainly in there.
ReplyDeleteWhich is what makes culture-war stuff like Gillespie's so easy to do; he can make a bad-faith, ideologically-leading argument, and if you don't like it that's just your opinion, man. Why is his worth any less than yours?
I'd say it's because guys like him aren't interested in literature, they're interested in campaign literature. And to the extent that they reach fresh minds, they help give them the fatal impression there really isn't any such thing as literature -- just grist for the endlessly churning mills.
This illustrates for me what I was trying to get at earlier. I haven't touched Gatsby since high school, but I remember this scene pretty much word for word, and it's not the only one. Gatsby is full of moments that stick with you like that, in a way that maybe when He says Rise the eyes will come floating up too, out of the deep quiet and the sleep, to look on glory
ReplyDeletewon't necessarily do, even if I personally think it's both more beautiful and more moving.
Except that Gilliespie, after a few years of peddling horseshit to coprophiles, suddenly thinks he's Malcolm Cowley.
ReplyDeleteWell to be fair, Gates thinks he John Dewey.
Government regulations, man.
ReplyDeleteThe Fed kept interest rates too low.
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Yes, and "fatal impression" nails it!
ReplyDelete(Personally, I also suspect that the culture Gillespie seems to oppose isn't just "modernity" since 1922 as he alleges, but Project America itself. In evidence I'd hold up the childhood list of self-improvement "Resolves" that Jay Gatz wrote as a child; it echoes a similar list Ben Franklin wrote for himself in youth (which Fitzgerald surely knew), suggesting that anxious self-invention has been integral to America since 1722. That may be what Gatsby is "about" -- the act of inventing yourself (or declining to) on our continental blank slate, and the ways in which the invention is inspiring, terrifying, meaningless, can't get you what you want, demonstrates you want the wrong things, and is not happening on an actually blank slate anyway. Well -- that and love. But Gillespie sees the book as supporting Joe Arpaio and taking Jack Valenti down a peg. That's a weird reaction, and it belongs to a propagandist, not a reader.)
The great mystery here is why a guy who hates good books, and who obviously misunderstands them and willfully misrepresents them, nevertheless feels compelled to write about them
ReplyDeleteIt's important to note that he only writes about books when they come to the silver screen. If that Algore loving DiCaprio weren't coming to a theater near you, he would have written about something else.
Libertarians are too dumb to realize that the "free market" they revere is a rigged game. Those burdensome regulations had been put into place to level the playing field somewhat.
ReplyDeleteOf course Gillespie thinks Gatsby is the great American novel. The protagonist is rich and drives fast and drinks and...oh, was I supposed to read the last third of the book?
ReplyDeleteThe end didn't support his thesis, so he decided to leave it out.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure that Verhoeven didn't mean it in a good way; if you read the relevant section of this interview, he confirms the old saw about Starship Troopers being what Star Wars would have been if it had been directed by Leni Riefenstahl.
ReplyDeleteI would like to do with this comment some things suggested by the stage direction and line of speech immediately following the bit Jay alludes to, but those things are far too racy to spell out on a family website like this.
ReplyDelete"I wonder if there was any recognition on Gillespie's part at this:"
ReplyDeleteOr this:
"...he invented just the sort of Jay Gatsby that a seventeen-year-old boy would be likely to invent, and to this conception he was faithful to the end...his heart was in a constant, turbulent riot. The most grotesque and fantastic conceits haunted him...A
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Or a market crash...
WHOA. Waitwaitwaitwaitwait. Glibertarians are fans of Sinclair Lewis? Have they ever actually READ Babbitt? I mean, no, obviously not, but I just don't understand why you would, out of all possible authors, point to one who quite explicitly hates the shit out of you and yours as the ONLY acceptable literature (!) of the twentieth-century.
ReplyDeleteThis comment should start a website debunking Conservative Cultural Commentary, and it could call it www.flemsnopes.com.
ReplyDeleteI so wanted flemsnopes.com to be a real website. :(
ReplyDeleteNicky, I'm sorry Faulkner's too much of a challenge for you,
ReplyDeleteI'm not. For all his sometimes excessive verbiage I love Faulkner, and wouldn't wish on him what Gillespie does to Fitzgerald.
Verhoeven really was too clever-clever with that for audiences. But I don't know how much clearer he could have spelled out the piss-take.
ReplyDeleteTime Out Of Joint by Philip K. Dick is a far better story, if we're going for the whole Lunar Colony Secession (sub)plot.
ReplyDeleteI chuckled when typing out the comment because disqus made me jump through the captcha hoops because I included a web address; for a couple of seconds, I thought maybe it was a real website.
ReplyDelete"x by Philip K. Dick is a better story" is a statement that stands a chance of being true for most values of x.
ReplyDeleteI'm not aware of any way that screaming "MINE! MINE!" amounts to anything like a philosophy
ReplyDeleteThat's why you'll never make Cato Institute money.
Gilliespie, after a few years of peddling horseshit to coprophiles, suddenly thinks he's Malcolm Cowley
ReplyDeleteWhat, an alcoholic?
or the Montana Max Center for Fair Taxation, either
ReplyDeleteYep. Don't tell us, tell the Objectivists.
ReplyDelete"X by PKD has a lot of great ideas in it that conceivably somebody could turn into a story" is usually true.
ReplyDeleteDon't get me wrong, I think he's one of the greats, but he was a great writer who wasn't actually very good at writing.
Anybody who believes that Fascist system in the Us has anything to do with free markets needs to lay off the tequila for a while.
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Also fuck creative destruction. I have no job because of it.
ReplyDeleteOkay, but the real objection to ST, the book, is not that it's fascist, but that it's insanely boring.
ReplyDeleteUltimately, Gatsby is the great American novel of the ways in which free markets (even, and perhaps especially, black markets) overturn established order and recreate the world through what Joseph Schumpeter called “creative destruction.”
ReplyDeleteTHIS IS THE DUMBEST FUCKING SENTENCE EVER WRITTEN. EVER EVER EVER
Well, its hard to believe these science-hating, critical-thinking fearing folks like real SciFi. Sure, ST and Star Wars and an occasional violent Star Trek...
ReplyDeleteI often wonder about Gates. Why pick on education, on teachers? Its strange.
ReplyDeleteCorporate ownership of schools? Teach-to-the-test prep software? Online course development?
ReplyDeleteLots of possibilities, and none of them include good intentions.
Yeah, seriously. Starship Troopers is a great parody movie. And all Verhoeven had to do was take Heinlein at face value and run with it. Some shit parodies itself.
ReplyDeleteSad but true. I can no longer read PKD without wincing.
ReplyDelete"... borne back ceaselessly into the past."
ReplyDeleteFor a right-whinger, I think that is a happy ending.
You're thinking of Malcolm Lowry. Malcom Cowley was a famous writer/critic of the mid-20th Century.
ReplyDeleteIf only the internet would provide me with a 'search engine' and make it possible to check basic facts before commenting.
ReplyDeleteSweet stuff, don't try to out-Gillespie Gillespie here. Heinlein was bombastic as hell, and once upon a very long time ago he was angry, but the last thing he did was take himself seriously.
ReplyDeleteAh yes, creative destruction: let's destroy more, to create less, and call it a win.
ReplyDeleteThat's what the term means. If it meant destroying less, to make more, we'd be referring to dog-bites-man stories not requiring a new expression.
There is an enormous amount of money to be made by privatizing education, and I think Gates honestly believes that if he was in charge of the new system, it'd be better than the old.
ReplyDeleteNot true, also not true if non-Gates took the reigns. I am gonna withhold my arguments here, but not for lack of things to say.
Hey, I'M the sweet stuff 'round here! And Hindloins ain't worth the worship anyhow.
ReplyDeleteA lot of money goes into education without passing through private or corporate hands. Not tolerable.
ReplyDeleteHe may well believe it, but that don't make it true. I speak as an extremely dissatisfied user, against my will, of Windows 7 at the office, where at any hour of the day any passing coworker can hear me muttering, "If he comes within 100 miles of me he's a dead man. Dead, do you hear me? Dead!"
ReplyDeleteSure, some of his stuff is a bit pulpy - but that was a by-product of the penny-a-word era.
ReplyDeleteRegardless, Man In the High Castle and Martian Time Slip remain two of my fave alt universe sci-fi novels ever ever. So there :p
Witchcraft!
ReplyDeleteWell, even Schumpeter would have been distressed by the misuse today of the term he coined. Within the context of his definition, as written, he was convinced that all business followed cycles where new companies with innovative products, better service, etc., inevitably displaced older, hidebound ones, took over markets and eventually became dinosaurs themselves as new, better products came to market.
ReplyDeleteThat's what Schumpeter meant by "creative destruction." Today, however, the term has been used widely to describe the sort of asset stripping and larding up companies with debt to extract rents in which Rmoney's Bain Capital regularly engaged, for example. Destroying a company that occupies a profitable market niche simply because more money can be extracted from it in a shorter period of time that way is not at all what Schumpeter meant, from what I've read. There are many aspects of Schumpeter's writings which can be argued or refuted outright, but there's no point in blaming him for an intentional perversion of one of his ideas as is common today.
Well, a lot of his material suffers from having been cranked out really, really quickly with no time for revision. That's not enough to excuse the fact that some of his novels are really, really dire, but it also doesn't change the fact that when he was On, he was great. A Scanner Darkly is one of my favorite novels of any sort ever.
ReplyDeleteAre you sure you want to place that bet?
ReplyDeleteI mean, yes, that it is stupid beyond belief and dumb also, too, tends to set baseball bats against gobs, but I can almost assure you that I had composed something that might qualify in the last year, and this is me being extraordinarily generous to Mr shades and leather, ( I am seriously straining to avoid sharing certain florid images that come to mind.)
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It’s about the breakdown of class differences
ReplyDeletein the face of a modern economy based not on status and inherited
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Everything was different after Edison invented alcohol.
OK, so there is a lot of good science fiction out there but Fitzgerald, Hemingway, Salinger are hacks?? WTF does this moron know about literature in the first place to be making these statements? Oh right, some moron from a fRightie website. But these guys are in-fucking-credible writers. That this moron can't see it is just more evidence that our society may be slowly swirling around the (old fashioned) flush bowl.
ReplyDeleteUltimately, Gatsby is the great American novel of the ways in which
ReplyDeletefree markets (even, and perhaps especially, black markets) overturn
established order and recreate the world through what was at the time against the fucking law.
Fixed
Actually, I like all those examples, but then I have bad taste.
ReplyDeleteHe likes Sinclair Lewis? Dodsworth? Elmer Gantry? It Can't Happen Here? That Sinclair Lewis?
ReplyDeleteHuh. Learn something new everyday.
That would be Aleister Crowley.
ReplyDeleteI'm at this moment imagining Scott Fitzgerald querying himself from the grave: "Was my point that fucking obscure?"
ReplyDeleteI'm gonna go even further and say he's facepalming himself with his bony hand in a cramped Art Deco casket.
Of the many issues he addresses in the novel, perhaps the central is the socially and morally corrosive effects of materialism and the consumer culture - NOT the "beauty" of the "creative destruction" wrought by free markets. Wealth and materialism cause the characters to act in ways that are shallow, vain, petty, opportunistic, callous, and cruel.
While Fitzgerald was certainly ambivalent about the subject, his work is most certainly not a paean to capitalism. The guy held meetings for the Communists and socialists at his house, for fuck's sake. That Gillespie would ignore this fact and turn the book on its head by focusing his exegesis on Gatsby as handbook for the social benefits of free markets is like saying The Color Purple celebrates the beauty and necessity of misogyny and patriarchal culture in creating strong, determined women.
I think Gillespie misses the point not just because he is an ideologue and propagandist but because Fitzgerald is subtle in his treatment. The book isn't a simple morality play with white and black hats; there is no ham handed judgment of the bad guys or the system. Fitzgerald is counting on his readers having developed moral and ethical sensibilities to allow them to suss out the message by examining the damaging effects of the values of that time on the characters' ethos and relationships.
Unfortunately, he did not anticipate the rise of blinkered libertarian sociopaths.
Gillespie's cack-handed take on The Great Gatsby, reminds me of Austin Popper's "Letter Plan" to elude the feds in Charles Portis' Masters of Atlantis:
ReplyDeleteBut Popper was thinking about Letter Plan. This was an escape maneuver prepared in anticipation of such news. He would thread his way west on a series of local buses to San Francisco and there take refuge in Chinatown with an old Gnomon friend, James Wing. The plan was named for Poe's tale "The Purloined Letter", whose point Popper had misunderstood to be this, that the best hiding place is that place where a search has already been made. Poe was only one of many well-known authors with whom Popper professed familiarity, and of whose works he had read not a single word. He came by his information on such matters indirectly, through magazines, radio programs, and hearsay.
Gah, this makes me hate Gillespie even more. Can't he just stick to wanking off to Altas Shrugged and stop pissing on The Great Gatsby and other great literature? (It's bad enough the glibertarians are devoted to screwing the poor and middle class and fellating plutocrats – leave the arts alone!)
ReplyDeleteWell, keep in mind that he also thinks libertarianism is a wise ideology and Ayn Rand is brilliant. The accuracy of his judgment when it comes to political philosophy and the arts is abysmal (and inversely proportional to his smugness).
ReplyDelete"Buddenbrooks" was such an international best-seller, they hired Fitzgerald to remake it for the American audience.
ReplyDeleteI suppose Gillespie believes that Gatsby didn't so much die as see the New Deal coming and decide to go Galt, permanently.
ReplyDeleteOn you " color purple point" didn't one of Roy's subjects just make this very interpretation? That Martin Luther King was basically happy to be in jail so he had time to write " letter from a Birmingham jail" znd that all those beatings and the assassination were just great ways of having a conversation?
ReplyDelete"Our teeth grated and my nipples went spung!"
ReplyDeleteHe lifted that from Middlemarch.
Indeed.
ReplyDeleteI was replying to smut clyde's strange dystopian 'search engine', but hey, thanks to the way these replies are laid out, a happy free-association accident too :)
ReplyDeleteAll the while, the only thing actually read is Hit and Run and Frank Miller "graphic novels"
ReplyDeleteSinclair Lewis?... Sinclair "When fascism comes to America it will be wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross" Lewis?...That Sinclair Lewis?... Getouttahere!
ReplyDeleteFor once I can resist the impulse to click on the link.
ReplyDeleteOr a posting level gig on Volokh
ReplyDeleteLet's just run through some of the main characters and see how they turn out.
ReplyDelete(image the old Newsweek CW Watch thumbs going down)
Nick -- has money but isn't rich, leaves the Eggs in disgust in part because
Gatsby -- a self-made man, is shot dead by
George -- who is the salt-of-the-earth, suicide, loser husband to
Myrtle -- who is the runnedover dead and formerly aspiring arm candy to
(image the old Newsweek CW Watch thumbs going up)
Tom who, like Daisy, has always had whatever they wanted handed to them. They flounce off and leave others to clean up their messes.
I suppose a case could be made that Jordan (the athelete) and Wolfsheim (the gangster) represent all that is meet and right. That's pretty much all that's left of the US economy anyway -- professional sports and grifting.
Fitzgerald was a genius!
Why would anybody think a black market is a free market?
ReplyDeleteOh, c'mon! If Gates took over education, everyone would have to periodically go back to kindergarten, would randomly have their homework stolen, would get their transcripts mixed with everyone else's, and would depart high school with a diploma that says "It looks like you're trying to start a life. Would you like help with that?"
ReplyDeleteApparently, it's not enough to just have bad ideas. They also strive mightily for those bad ideas to take root in the public mind. One of those bad ideas they have--a lot--is that if they can, somehow, some way, seize the popular culture (by force, if necessary) and make it their own, they will have the ideal vehicle to drive their bad ideas into that public mind.
ReplyDeleteBecause their ideas are a load of bollocks, they've abandoned persuasion, and have resorted to the intellectual equivalent of hijacking.
If Gillespie could write like Lowry (alcoholic or not), I'd read him with more diligence. But, since Gillespie can neither write nor think, there's little point in reading him beyond what's necessary to provide one a little sport.
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So the libertarians now like Gatsby? I read some Ayn Rand when I was young and I remember in one of her books where she dissed Fitzgerald pretty badly and compared him unfavorably to Mickey Spillane. Mickey Spillane!
ReplyDeleteI loved I, The Jury, dammit.
ReplyDeleteHe was erratic, and his massive drug intake was only part of it. But like you say, when he was on he was one. UBIK and Maze of Death are both stone cold classics.
ReplyDeleteI'm ashamed to admit that I have a degree and a half in English literature*, and I actually more or less agree with the glibertarian. If they're not hacks, then Fitzgerald, Hemingway, and Salinger are at least *vastly* overrated. Hemingway never met a two-syllable (or more) word he liked, I read Gatsby waiting for the plot to start, and yadda yadda yadda. I mean, how anybody actually reads Hemingway without a gun to their heads is beyond me...
ReplyDeleteHe's right about Sinclair Lewis, though. I'm also partial to Upton Sinclair and the Norris-Dreiser one-two punch. He wouldn't mention the Harlem Renaissance, but I will.
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* Granted, I did my schooling in Canada, where, unless you specifically take electives to the contrary, a degree in English literature is a degree in *English* literature, IYKWIMAIKYD, so I never got the taste for AmLit overmuch...
They meant black leather jacket market. The glibertarian wardrobe item of choice.
ReplyDeleteNaturally gifted dude from a well-off family who's origin story famously involves dropping out of school? I would not be at all shocked to discover that decades later, Gates still harbors a grudge against specific teachers who he feels held him back/didn't properly appreciate him.
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