But as we saw in my recent Voice column, these guys also appear to have lost the self-discipline required to focus exclusively on the war-drum -- as one imagines they would if they were really serious about it -- without breaking into a tom-roll of talking points unrelated to the subject. It's like they want to go back to the Bush Years (now under new management and rehabilitation -- watch this space!), and they want to go now -- so rather than wait for Terror to soften the sheeple's minds, they just yell "Boo!" and then start yelling about deficit spending.
So after starting on-topic with "The Liberal Utopia is a land where gun background checks prevent mass murder" (I didn't say reasonably, I said on-topic), Lord veers, telling us the jihad has also blown up the Liberal Utopia of Social Security, Medicare, War on Poverty, etc.
He reaches what I would say is the nadir here, on the subjects of gun control and the apparent successor to Lena Dunham as the right's favorite female hate-object, Gabby Giffords:
Next up was former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords, who took to the Op-Ed page of the New York Times to say “I’m furious.” Giffords accused the Senate of being in the “grip of the gun lobby” fearful of political consequences.
Gifford’s statement was filled with irony. There are people aplenty out there who have also discussed issues other than guns as being a problem in this area of violence in America. Indeed just this last Sunday Boston’s Cardinal Sean O’Malley not only talked about guns but the role of abortion in what O’Malley called a “Culture of Death.” But did Gabby Giffords want to talk about abortion as a contributing factor?In case you're wondering if you imagined it: yes, he did just ask why a woman who was shot in the head is more interested in gun control than abortion.
If their movement ever acquires a leader, I suggest for starters he or she should pass out some Ritalin.
買い物外食外出したり仕事に行く間にハンドバッグはこれらのデザイナーの一人であるかどうかそれが運ぶためにファッショナブルなバッグです
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Cardinal Sean O’Malley not only talked about guns but the role of abortion in what O’Malley called a “Culture of Death.”
ReplyDeleteAnybody know if O'Malley ever talks about poverty and infant mortality in America?
The right wing HATES that she is standing up to the gun nuts. These people have not been shot at, much less shot, but they feel that they need to have their guns. It must be very humiliating to them that a woman who has been shot hasn't retreated to their default fear position.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing that stops a Bad Liberal with a Utopia is a Good Conservative with a Utopia!
ReplyDeleteNow excuse me while the invisible hand of the free market applies some lotion to Mark Levin.
Yes, but presumably only as sad byproducts of the legality of contraception.
ReplyDeleteI mean, if somebody links the marathon bombing to the "Culture of Death" promoted by abortion, they're either stupid or liars. And I'm pretty sure O'Malley isn't stupid. Jeffrey Lord's got that one covered.
There's undoubtedly an epic O'Malley/Zardoz mash-up waiting to be born somewhere in his lunatic eschatology, but I haven't the stomach for it. Or for another viewing of Zardoz, for that matter.
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ReplyDeleteAccording to Reuters, the plant was storing 270 tons of highly volatile ammonium nitrate fertilizer that should have been reported to the Department of Homeland Security but was not. The Texas Department of State Health Services was aware of the dangerous chemical but failed to alert DHS, the news agency reports.
When do the wingnuts call for waterboarding plant owner Donald Adair?
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The Liberal Utopia is a land where gun background checks prevent mass murder
ReplyDeleteThank goodness we have him to let us know what'll really prevent bombings and shootings is stopping abortion.
"Gifford’s statement was filled with irony."
ReplyDeleteOh, leave poor irony alone. Giffords' statement was filled with outrage. Your article, Jeffrey, is filled with that angry-tween-meets-hack-propagandist indignation we've come to expect from the right-wing peanut gallery, where quoting a cardinal on abortion to talk about guns is called "synergy."
I'd like to move to L.U. Can we keep the Jeffrey Lords, etc. out?
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It wouldn't be much of a utopia with those guys there, what with all the eye-rolling injuries we'd suffer, but we'll have to put it up for vote at the next meeting. I'll bring cookies!
ReplyDeleteO'Malley would not rock the red bikini.
ReplyDeleteBut did Gabby Giffords want to talk about abortion as a contributing factor?
ReplyDeleteConsidering she's not a paste-eating dweebazoid, I'm gonna guess no.
Of course, the Liberal Utopia would prefer not to have mass murders at all, but what gun control does in this utopia is limit the number of mass murders caused by guns used by the criminally insane. As horrific as Boston was, 98% of the people who took the shrapnel lived. Newtown didn't exactly have the same survival rate.
ReplyDeleteSounds like a photoshop challenge to me.
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To be fair to O'Malley, this is from the transcript (from the Globe's web site):
ReplyDelete"We must overcome the culture of death by promoting a culture of life, a
profound respect for each and every human being made in the image and
likeness of God, and we must cultivate a desire to give our lives in the
service of others." No explicit mention anywhere of guns or abortion; apparently Lord is reading between the lines.
O'Malley also said "In the face of the present tragedy, we must ask ourselves what kind of a community do we want to be, what are the ideals that we want to pass on to the next generation. It cannot be violence, hatred and fear." Sounds like he is calling for wingnut hell.
yeah, but 'each and every human being made in the image and likeness of God' is only slightly more subtle of a dogwhistle than 'our most vulnerable citizens' from Rubio's SoTU rebuttal.
ReplyDeleteBut did
ReplyDeleteGabby Giffords want to talk about abortion as a contributing
factor? Did the president? Of course not — and for exactly the
reason they attributed to those who oppose background checks. Which
is to say, pro-choice politicians both, neither Giffords nor Obama
have the guts to take on the abortion lobby.
Yeah, and why isn't anyone talking about the corrosive effect pesto is having on society? Oh, everyone knows how sauces contribute to violent crime, but no one's willing to stand up to Big Pasta.
(Hey, if Jeffrey Lord isn't going to bother being coherent, then neither am I)
Not necessarily. The Catholic concept of "ethics of life" covers a lot more than abortion. It's just that the other stuff doesn't allow conservatives to score political points, so they ignore it.
ReplyDeleteI tend to think of dudes like O'Malley and Dolan as politicians first and spiritual leaders second.
ReplyDelete"Stupid Giffords! She SAYS that people are too paralysed with fear of the gun lobby to do anything about guns, and that they'll try to blame anything else, but look at all these people blaming anything but guns for gun-related tragedy! Is that what people terrified of the gun lobby would do? Don't answer that. Instead, why not look at the silly monkey?"
ReplyDeleteJeffrey Lord's thesis, on what those dumb liberals think:
ReplyDeleteOr, to simplify: if only Americans are made to do X, The Perfect
Society will manifest.
Let me take you back in time to the year 2004. John Kerry was taking heat over his plan to fight terrorism, mainly on the grounds that it was more complex than "kill all terrorists." "Nuance" was a dirty word, one that Republicans applied to Democrats every chance they got. They insisted that the American people were not interested in discussing complexity, that the solution to any woe was to find and remove the problem, and that the only people who disagreed were pointy-headed academic elitist types who didn't understand the way the world works.
And now, less than ten years later, Jeffrey Lord is trying to claim that it's liberals who offer simplistic solutions? Geez, Jeff, have you actually forgotten everything before 2008, or are you just pretending really hard?
Look, if you can't get me 100% murder prevention, growth spurring tax cuts, functional abstinence only education, and a unicorn pony, you're living in cloud cuckoo land. So until you get me Twilight Sparkle*, I'm going to stick with the people who have managed to do even less to prevent tragedies, but do it in a way that makes me feel better about my beliefs.
ReplyDelete* we shall, if pressed, accept Rarity.
So, is X "carry guns" or "cut taxes" this time? ...Oh, you were being ironical, Mr. Lord?
ReplyDeleteBoth. Use copies of 1040 as targets at the firing range.
ReplyDeleteOK, so if America is the Liberal Utopia, what's Conservative Utopia? Saudi Arabia? Franco-era Spain? Galt's Gulch?
ReplyDeleteNo abortion, duh. This is why there was no crime in America until 1973.
ReplyDeleteWhat these didpshits seem incapable of grasping is that we liberal Bostonians are just fine and coping with events perfectly well. We are not calling for surveillance of the entire Muslim community and we are not fortifying our property and frantically arming ourselves against the coming jihad. That's just not how clear-eyed, practical Yankees roll. We know what we're doing, thank you, and we don't need or want your advice on how to freak out.
ReplyDeleteI just checked--I know, crazy, right? The murder rate in our Liberal Utopia is 2.8 while in "Don't Mess With Texas" its 4.4. The highest in 2011 (the years reporting) was Louisiana at a stunning 11 percent.
ReplyDeleteAnother useful way to think about our Liberal Utopia is
1) Most of the MA citizens who were injured will be covered by insurance and
2) The large number of top quality hospitals and staff, as well as the unionized police and firemen and etc... working together mean that everyone was triaged on scene and treated within minutes of the bomb blast.
I like my liberal utopia just fine. The fact that assholes from around the country and around the world can travel here and bomb us, or attack us on twitter (whatever floats their boat) doesn't mean it isn't still a great place to live.
I know Irony is dead, and all, but I still can't get over the fact that the Republicans in the Senate right now are arguing that we can't have immigration reform because the system does not provide strong enough "background checks" and we don't/can't have a permanent registery of everyone who ever sneezed in a foreign country and also, simultaneously, demanding that we must not ever have any kind of background checks for gun buyers or any national registery of gun sellers which covers all types of gun sellers and buyers.
ReplyDeleteWell, he'd probably jiggle it a little.
ReplyDeleteI'm having a hard time understanding why advocating for policies that leave children (aka "the post-unborn") without food, healthcare or decent education isn't a part of a "Culture of Death". I'm sure Gabby Giffords, or any other Democrat, would be more than happy to talk about that.
ReplyDeleteThanks for the excuse to start drinking early.
ReplyDeletebut no one's willing to stand up to Big Pasta.
ReplyDeleteDamn straight.
Truly a work of great genius and beauty!
ReplyDeleteIt is the conservative ability to conflate completely unrelated matters that makes them so entertaining. In some cases, like Jonah "the Fail" Goldberg, they bring knowledge together with anti-knowledge and the two annihilate each other in a burst of pure stupidity.
In other cases, such as Master Lord, they simply make statements along the lines of "How can you claim to be against bicycles when there are waffles for breakfast? Huh? Huh?"
That's right--you do know where Jimmy Pelmeni is buried, don't you?
ReplyDeleteHaving created the Tea Party as a useful tent to stuff the anti-taxers, know-nothings, flat-earthers, and stone-cold racists into, the GOP discovered to their dismay they'd created a sub-bloc that was large enough to start calling the tune. Their choice is to either cater to the delusions of wingnuts or be primaried by wingnuts. There is no middle ground left.
ReplyDeleteI'd laugh myself sick but I'm stuck on the same carnival ride.
On the one hand, upvote. On the other hand, "GAAAH! My mind's eye!"
ReplyDeleteCan't be that last.
ReplyDeleteNo matter how much they promise and/or threaten, they never go the fuck away.
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Franco-American.
ReplyDeleteThe church does a lot of hand-wringing and sighing over the "ethics of life" but only speaks out about contraception and abortion. Have you ever heard of a bishop threatening to withhold communion from a politician for supporting war or economic exploitation?
ReplyDeleteI don't understand why the gun culture and the continued threats of revolutionary violence from right wing politicians and voters doesn't equally come under the heading of a "culture of death." A martial, war focused culture is a culture obsessed with death--and not only death in a suicidal/japanese/aesthetic sort of way but a culture obsessed with killing in a breaking the commandments kind of way. Is there any good reason why the Catholic Church does not forbid communion to people who have concealed carry permits or hoard guns or have committed gun violence?
ReplyDeleteWhen do the wingnuts call for waterboarding plant owner Donald Adair?
ReplyDeleteA decent, churchgoing white businessman who was attending [insert pious sniffle] Bible study when his years of criminal negligence finally led to the deaths of some heroic first responders? Don't bother suspending your respiration while you wait.
You've nicknamed your penis "Mark Levin"?
ReplyDeleteRarity is plainly old school Republican. I'm surprised she still puts up with the hijacking of the GOP, but nevertheless - and sorry to break it to you - I strongly doubt she'll be happy living in a burrow with an ill-tempered liberal warthog.
ReplyDelete"Are there no workhouses?"
ReplyDelete"Now excuse me while the invisible hand of the free market applies some lotion to Mark Levin."
ReplyDeleteI 'd rather it got the hose again.
I think rightwing writers get paid by the Benghazi.
ReplyDelete"A decent, churchgoing white businessman who was attending [insert pious sniffle] Bible study..."
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking he was actually demanding Sanctuary.
Libya: Where a not very well regulated militia being necessary to free a state, the right to bear rocket launchers shall not be infringed.
ReplyDeleteWest Texas (+/-,)...too soon? Oh, all right then: Somaliarizona
ReplyDelete"Put the fuckin' regulations in the basket!!"
ReplyDeleteFunny you should say that...
ReplyDelete=> Del. Ray Canterbury spoke against the bill, repeating that there is no such thing as a free lunch and encouraging kids to develop personal responsibility.
“I think it would be a good idea if perhaps we had the kids work for their lunches: trash to be taken out, hallways to be swept, lawns to be mowed, make them earn it,” the Greenbrier County Republican said. “If they miss a lunch or they miss a meal they might not, in that class that afternoon, learn to add, they may not learn to diagram a sentence, but they’ll learn a more important lesson.”<=
http://wonkette.com/513554/west-virginia-rep-to-taker-schoolkids-let-them-eat-janitoring
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You're wondering this about a religion that has a human nailed to a cross as its main object of veneration?
ReplyDeleteAt The American Spectator Jeffrey Lord has one called "Jihad Blows Up the Liberal Utopia"
ReplyDeleteOf course, the flip side of this is the West, TX explosion, a deadlier event which could be called "Conservative Policies Blow Up Texas City".
"The Liberal Utopia is a land where gun background checks prevent mass murder"
ReplyDeleteAgain, let's flip this around... the Conservative Utopia is a land where deregulation of business saves jobs, rather than killing people and destroying small Texas towns.
Of course, they think that taxpayers should bail out the corrupt, vile fertilizer plant owners rather than having them pay restitution and punitive damages for destroying a fucking town.
ReplyDeleteEven weirder is the cognitive dissonance which allows them to think that background checks simultaneously are ineffective and will usher in the threat of confiscation of guns and murder of God-fearing gun owners.
ReplyDeleteNot too soon, the West, TX conflagration was entirely due to right-wing policies.
ReplyDeleteThe crucifixion is not supposed to be a how to manual. I think it's more self help.
ReplyDelete2.8 or 4.4 or 11 per 100,000 population, not percent.
ReplyDelete11 percent of 1 Million is 110,000 - three times the national total for gun deaths.
Oh, fuck Ritalin. Go for the big guns: thorazine. It won't make Lord Jeffrey any stupider, but it will restrict his questions to the more essential, and less propagandistic, such as, "when's lunch?"
ReplyDeleteI would characterize it more as "boilerplate" than "dogwhistle".
ReplyDeleteNaming your dong after right-wing radio personalities is not that uncommon. In fact, I nicknamed mine "Savage Weiner".
ReplyDeleteGuns for everyone, no safe abortions so a high death-toll due to quackery, salivating at every prospect of war, the death penalty, no or at least minimal social safety nets... Yeah, it's clearly "The Left" that's the Culture of Death. Lord isa shitsalesman with a mouth full of samples.
ReplyDeleteI like the new condition described in your headline. I recommend that it be shortened to P-TADS and pronounced in the style of Buckley.
ReplyDeleteExcitable and one-eyed?
ReplyDeleteWe go upon the practical mode of teaching, Nickleby; the regular education
ReplyDeletesystem. C-l-e-a-n, clean, verb active, to make bright, to scour. W-i-n, win, d-e-r, der, winder, a casement. When the boy
knows this out of book, he goes and does it.
apparently Lord is reading between the lines
ReplyDeleteHe is reading from an entirely different book; possibly the Voynich Manuscript.
One could go on …and on and on….spotting those will-o-the-wisp
ReplyDeleteglimpses of The Liberal Utopia (Obamacare here, the Obama stimulus
over there, the promise to close Guantanamo way back there) with
example after example of this miserably failed attempt to find or
create a Liberal Utopia.
That is quite a piece of self-diagnosis.
Just like Polyphemus!
ReplyDeleteindeed, just this last sunday an executive of a multi-billion dollar conglomerate that spent the last few decades covering up rampant sex abuse of children by its employees and who himself has been accused by survivors of said abuse of taking part in this conspiracy of silence and in a just and sane world would thereby finally rob this historically murderous, sleazy and corrupt entity any moral or ethical standing to proclaim anything about anything ever boston's sean o'malley not only talked about guns but the role of abortion...
ReplyDeleteMore to the point, does he not see the Wonderful World of the Free Market, Absolute and Total Deregulation and Old-Time Gilded Age Cracker Barrel Bullshit through a similar soft-focus lens?
ReplyDeleteAssholes like Lord Jeffrey have been selling Utopia for so long that they've long ago stopped noticing that their Kingdom of Oz is now looking a lot more like the Dust Bowl and that the rubes are running, screaming, for the exits in the middle of the sales pitch.
'Ey, I don't know nothin bout nothin. That's Ricotta Joe's part of town.
ReplyDeleteBack during the Virginia Tech shooting, at least three right-wing cartoonists drew cartoons poo-pooing the deaths compared to all those abortions. Then John Derbyshire (who was still employed at NR then) decided to one-up that and write a column taunting the dead college kids for not rushing the shooter. (This was before McArdle came up with the brilliant glibertarian solution of training kindergarteners to rush a shooter, because freedumb.)
ReplyDeleteStepping back for a sec to marvel at that raging mass of insanity, I'm reminded of what absolute fuckers these guys are. (Also, too, centrist concern trolls who insist on ignoring all such crap while scolding the DFH can go to hell.)
Just don't bring the clans into it. Big Jock MacAroni is nothing but trouble.
ReplyDeleteNo One could have seen that one coming. (Insert more obvious joke...)
ReplyDeleteWhich is to say, pro-choice politicians both, neither Giffords nor Obama have the guts to take on the abortion lobby.
ReplyDeleteBoy, the whole representative government, represent-your-constituents concept really escape him, doesn't it?
That said, Tim Thomas moved to Colorado so he could build a nuclear fallout shelter out of tin foil.
ReplyDeleteOops! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteHe's sleeping with the calamari.
ReplyDeleteSimply being born in this country gives a person a magical aura of probity which may not be denied or besmirched (well, except for those people, if you know what they mean).
ReplyDelete"The gun is good! The penisvagina is evil!"
ReplyDeleteOh, leave poor irony alone.
ReplyDeleteApparently, you did not the memo get, as Irony was shot, stabbed and tossed into dumpster in an alley off of K street circa 2002, joining its siblings Shame and Infamy (during a similar time-frame) among a list of those no longer with us.
If one was a cynic, one could be persuaded to believe that the wingnuts were trying to kill "the Onion".
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Dentata is scary.
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Also the possibility that a politician could actually be committed to defending abortion rights.
ReplyDeleteWell, there was crime, but 90% of it was illegal abortions.
ReplyDeleteBeing one of those people I know what they mean. I can only imagine that the shiftless and lazy characteristics of my type have managed to trump my nefarious cunning. Yet the latter is always exploited to scare the shit outta the rubes.
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Are you aware of a market in which I can trade Lakawanna's into Benghazi's?
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Also, too, the concepts of consent, agency and democracy.
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Somalia.
ReplyDeleteThe Market has spoken and cleansed the impurities of West, and there will now be Jobs in cleansing and reconstruction of the damage, so win win!
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One might be led to believe that they are shiftless and/or lazy and thus, not a credit to their race.
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I Think Lord is using sleight of hand in referring to Malcom, and not the one in the middle.
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Interesting implementation of the blockquote you got there, Disqus. It herprises me that I did not try this before.
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Indeed - Obamacare hasn't fully kicked in, the stimulus worked as much as it could after Republican crippling, and Guantanamo would now be closed if it weren't for bipartisan cowardice in Congress. That may qualify as a failed Liberal Utopia, but he's radically dishonest about why it failed.
ReplyDeleteWell, and the bastard owners' failure to comply with what little regulation there actually was. I'm guessing that's going to be the line of attack - regulations don't help because people just ignore them anyway (never mind that starved enforcement budget behind the curtain.)
ReplyDeleteThe other 10% was illegal divorces.
ReplyDeleteHey, now, HJ, the official 2012 GOP platform is copyrighted.
ReplyDeleteThat would imply that he feared actual personal repurcussions for criminal negligence that led to deaths and massive property damage. As a decent, churchgoing white businessman in Texas, that probably didn't occur to him even momentarily.
ReplyDelete(something about sheep)
ReplyDeleteAnd to think that some people think a classical education is wasted.
ReplyDeleteOr the Gnocchi brothers. Those two could frighten an Ebola virus.
ReplyDeleteThat's why I bought that collection of Great Philosophers on Tape! I keep the headphones clamped on my dong while I sleep.
ReplyDeleteWait, what?
I'm sure Derbyshire thinks that if only Bruce Lee had had a gun, Derb'd have been the hero of that movie.
ReplyDeleteShe is, indeed, a small-business owner with aristocratic leanings, though she's cosmopolitan. Applejack, too, is a small-business owner, and also Southern.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, Twilight is an egghead academic and Fluttershy is a hippy-dippy environmentalist. What with Rainbow Dash's incurable voter apathy and Pinkie voting for Ron Paul and Jill Stein because third parties are more fun, it's a pretty deadlocked split.
...Bipartisanship is Magic.
Someone posted a question over at the Ann Lander's blog about the duty of a pool owner to secure the pool deck so that neighbor children can't get in and drown. You'd be surprised at the number of people who think it is a ridiculous sign of the nanny state and the general failure of parents in the neighborhood that they don't "teach their children to respect private property" and if those toddlers toddle in and drown its their own damned fault. Sometimes I read the comment threads over there, or really at any local newspaper, and I am just stunned by the simple minded viciousness of my compatriots.
ReplyDeleteDon't you read it this way, as well "Giffords said she was nearly killed by a gunshot to the head! Why doesn't she die already?" and/or other shorter "If she can still write a 900 word op ed she wasn't really injured/if she can write a 900 word op ed I disagree with then she should have been killed."
ReplyDeleteI'll admit abortion is a "contributing factor" to violence in this society when it turns out that someone is freezing fetuses into little fetusicles and using them as bullets and shooting people in the heads with them. Get back to me when that happens.
ReplyDeleteI'm cynical enough to think that wingnuts think the Onionis a real news organization, and can't waif for the Koch Brothers to buy them.
ReplyDelete"wait"
ReplyDeleteNot to mention the uptick in embalming and restoration--something tells me a hefty order for mortuary wax went in last week.
ReplyDeleteSomething about omelettes and eggs breaking is the appropriate white Texas businessman's apology.
ReplyDeleteConservative Dystopia is the real paradise. Just look at these brochures.
ReplyDeleteGotta pay the preachers for the extra work, too. They don't do weddings or funerals gratis.
ReplyDeleteIs that a challenge?
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For values of "a classical education" that include "Reading the Illuminatus trilogy".
ReplyDeleteWas that drawn with bacon and play-doh?
ReplyDeleteLord's column is so bad to begin with that turning 10% of it over to Andrew McCarthy doesn't make it markedly worse.
ReplyDeleteIf it's politically beneficial, he can forget everything before lunch today.
ReplyDeleteKinda like Michele Bachmann getting Jim Inhofe to help her cheat on her physical science exam.
ReplyDeleteGuns for everyone, no safe abortions
ReplyDeleteI think you've got the conservative philosophy right there. Slutty Wimmins who dasn't want there babies can just shoot themselves!
For conservatives, radical dishonesty is one of the bylaws of the club.
ReplyDeleteMost of the true real gun fans have a daydream fantasy of having to go out into the world, armed, to fight the enemy. Kill or be killed, mano a mano. To be free of the shackles of the humdrum life. It's domesticity, it's meaninglessness, its boredom. I call it the Red Dawn fantasy.
ReplyDeleteSadly two giant oceans eliminated any real chance to fight a foreign invader after 1812 and even that was folly. Absent a foreign invader some enemy must be manufactured. I suspect if the XXXX thousand of those with the itch in the Boston area heeded the call they soon would have felt rather stupid fighting one guy. Where is the sport or chance for bravery in that.
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