Wednesday, May 20, 2015

ALSO, WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP TELLING ME TO LOOK UP "LEMONPARTY"?

Pretty much everyone has noticed that violent mass events starring white people get handled differently in the press from violent mass events starring black people, and Waco/Baltimore comparisons seem to fit the pattern. Surely you must have been wondering: what is the libertarian position on this? Take it away, Ed Krayewski of Reason:
The comparisons to the police reform protests are the more problematic of the two. The Atlantic's Ta-Nehisi Coates seemed to make that comparison in a series of tweets Monday night that emulating right-wing reactions to the police protest movement. One curious tweet asks "Why won't America's biker gangs be more like Dr. Martin Luther King?" What is the comparison Coates is trying to draw? If there were violent protesters in Baltimore with legitimate grievances—and they were urged by some to be more peaceful—does Coates believe the bikers, too, had some kind of legitimate grievances at the Twin Peaks restaurant? If he doesn't believe so, does he believe there are white people out there who believe that? I certainly haven't heard or read anything about either the bike gangs allegedly involved or anyone in the press trying to ascribe legitimate grievances to the thugs at the restaurant.
In other words, the libertarian position is they don't understand jokes unless they're in Klingon.

UPDATE.  Kevin D. Williamson does a version of this at National Review, with arguments on the order of oh, you're against calling black rioters "thugs" well what about Tupac libtards etc. Also, why doesn't "America’s most stridently progressive mayor, Bill de Blasio" shut down the Hell's Angels clubhouse on East Third? I might tell him that the Angels have been keeping that block clean and righteous for decades, as opposed to shooting it up Waco-style, but then I'd be playing Williamson's neither-Holy-nor-Roman-nor-an-Empire dork game with him, and life is too fucking short.

181 comments:

  1. Chairman Pao11:54 PM

    The Derp is strong in this one.

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  2. AGoodQuestion11:55 PM

    It's hard to tell if he's being intentionally dense or whether it's involuntary. Maybe given enough time you can fool your own brain, rendering it useless. Scary stuff.

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  3. Chairman Pao11:56 PM

    Schrodinger's Hack?

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  4. BigHank5311:58 PM

    Maybe...you can fool your own brain

    He's a libertarian. He's been fooling his own brain for years.

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  5. Chairman Pao12:01 AM

    To wit:

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  6. sharculese12:16 AM

    "The comparisons to the police reform protests are the more problematic of the two."


    Wait, I thought 'problematic' was off limits now, having become an indicator of questioning the dominant power structure. Did Krayewski (sounds ethnic) not get the memo?

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  7. Wrangler12:22 AM

    It's all a performance. Appearance versus reality is a major theme in the Twin Peaks restaurant.

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  8. Ellis_Weiner1:35 AM

    OT, but of general interest: Here's a seemingly sane person citing Rod Dreher as an authority on the retreat of religious conservatives from politics:
    http://tinyurl.com/m73veo9 .

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  9. Oof, I heard some right-wing loon trying to claim that the Waco biker riot was a race war... because Banditos! For the record, the Banditos biker gang was founded by this hombre.

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  10. redoubtagain7:43 AM

    One curious tweet asks "Why won't America's biker gangs be more like Dr. Martin Luther King?" What is the comparison Coates is trying to draw?
    That right now, America's biker gangs are more like James Earl Ray?

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  11. mortimer20007:48 AM

    Libertarian joke
    A priest, a rabbi, and a minister walk into a bar. However, the owner of the construction company shouldn't be held liable for individuals who don't watch where they are going. (*rimshot*)

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  12. http://static.giantbomb.com/uploads/original/11/113543/2654924-3020420835-tumbl.gif
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  13. Chris Anderson8:21 AM

    The biker gangs have grievances against each other, ones that they consider legitimate. They do not expect society-at-large to address these concerns, however, preferring to do so themselves, violently.


    It seems relevant that many white Americans do not believe that black Americans have legitimate, substantial grievances. In which case, both lawful and unlawful attempts at redress would be out of line.

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  14. coozledad8:22 AM

    Nothing wrong with her a few government subsidies wouldn't fix.


    Maybe not.

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  15. Damon LInker is not necessarily sane (he may be suffering from an advanced case of Broder syndrome), but wouldn't it be a good idea to encourage that Benedict thing by pretending to take it seriously?

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  16. coozledad8:28 AM

    I'll believe they are retreating from politics when they retreat from air conditioning.


    It's much harder to beat your wife and shame your kids in the absence of a temperature controlled environment.

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  17. coozledad8:30 AM

    Ron Paul sure was awkward as a young man.

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  18. coozledad8:37 AM

    The comparisons to the police reform protests are the more problematic of the two.
    Especially when you consider that the bikers are the police, and the police are bikers.At the very least they're mutually dependent organisms, and in many cases, balls deep in each other.

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  19. Cato the Censor8:39 AM

    "in a series of tweets Monday night that 'emulating' right-wing reactions "
    I guess part of being a libertarian is freedom from such petty concerns as grammatically correct sentences.

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  20. the bikers are the police, and the police are bikers

    Great point. Maybe the cops were being easy on the bikers because they know each other. And even if they don't, at least they understand each other.

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  21. Funny thing, I ran across Damon Linker's name for the first time on twitter yesterday.

    https://twitter.com/IFThunder/status/601103577432641536
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  22. coozledad8:47 AM

    The freeway beating of an Asian couple in LA was attended by at least one "undercover cop". I guess he had to kick their asses to legitimize himself for his targets. Or he could simply be biker scuzz.


    The Hell's Angels used to run the Durham NC Police department. When one of their biggest psychotic badasses died, the police came to the funeral to show their respects.


    A police officer in Chapel Hill told me Durham cops were rotten with bikers.

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  23. Fits my experience: in Chicago, I know a cop who is also part of a motorcycle club.

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  24. Ted the slacker9:03 AM

    With apologies to Upton Sinclair, it is difficult to get a man to understand a joke, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

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  25. OT: Alicurati Meet-Up.

    A reminder that the first-ever Alicurati meet-up is scheduled for Saturday, May 30 in Danbury, CT. Those interested, please drop me an email so I can make reservations at the restaurant (Vietnamese) and I can send you details.

    BennForum at Gmail dot Com

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  26. One drive-by shooting in a Black neighborhood is proof that we need extraordinary police measures and that stop-and-frisk is the best way to handle crime in these neighborhoods.

    Hundreds of violent White felons shooting it out with automatic weapons in a restaurant parking lot is proof that Texas really needs to loosen up its gun laws.

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  27. And at least one of the dead bikers ordered a chimichanga, so there's that.

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  28. Helmut Monotreme9:10 AM

    I wouldn't mind the so-called Benedict Option, if I could rest easy knowing that the minute the Benedicteers got out of line of sight, they weren't going to start treating women like second (at best) class citizens and treating any luckless children that get dragged along like indentured servants. More generally, they are going to start reminding us why 'cultists' are not considered to be ideal neighbors.

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  29. coozledad9:25 AM

    I don't know why I thought that beating took place in LA. Atherosclerosis, likely.

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  30. GeniusLemur9:30 AM

    "Why won't America's biker gangs be more like Dr. Martin Luther King?"
    Probably the same reason the mafia and Colombian drug cartels won't.

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  31. some right-wing loon, Joel Skousen (Cleon's nephew)Wow, the road apple doesn't fall far from the jackass, does it? (I'm old enough to remember when Republican Party platforms weren't all cribbed directly from Cleon or his posse.)
    the Waco biker riot was a race war... because Banditos!

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  32. What is the comparison Coates is trying to draw?Yeah, it's a real headscratcher, all right ... By the way, would you please plan our political system and economy, guys? Assuming you have enough of those thick crayons to go around.
    I certainly haven't heard or read anything about either the bike gangs allegedly involved or anyone in the press trying to ascribe legitimate grievances to the thugs at the restaurant.You know part of the reason for that, Ed? Because it's hard to hear or read anything about the incident at all. Which---And I'm going way out on a limb, here, so bear with me---might be a key element of Coates' trivially easy-to-understand point.
    In other words, the libertarian position is they don't understand jokes unless even if they're in Klingon.The most appropriate Klingon phrase for a right-schmibertarian to use is jiyajbe'. Some appropriate Klingon phrases to use on a right-schmibertarian are bijatih 'e' yimev and naDevvo' yighoS.

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  33. susanoftexas9:54 AM

    Their idea of the Benedict Option doesn't seem to include any actual leaving, just talking about leaving, selling books about leaving, and going to conferences where everyone talks about selling books about leaving.

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  34. BigHank539:55 AM

    Also, Texas is one of those charming states where anyone involved in a crime can be charged with the worst offense committed by a member of the group--for example, the getaway driver can be charged with murder if someone else kills a guard. Does anyone here believe for a millisecond that Texas will charge the bikers accordingly?

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  35. Halloween_Jack9:55 AM

    Pretty much everything you really need to know about KDW's latest excretion is embodied in this phrase: "Being a motorcycle enthusiast myself". That's even before his fussy protestations that he's not like those nasty bikers. He even drops in this gem--"But the progressives are right, to some extent, that people romanticize motorcycle gangs, and that this is unhealthy"--before hastily naming de Blasio as Romanticizer #1. I would just about be willing to lay cash money on Kevvy crying during Wild Hogs.

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  36. Halloween_Jack9:57 AM

    I'm not sure I could get through a Klingon conversation with just about any glibertarian without using petaq liberally, as it were.

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  37. Must be in one of those just turned 50 funks, that is leaving my snark in the

    shelf in the linen closet.


    It might surprise that it also took three tries to land that last word....


    I got nothing...
    ...

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  38. Chris Anderson10:04 AM

    Am I the only hopeless pedant who's annoyed that they call themselves Bandidos, not Banditos?


    Maybe it's one of those "cool misspellings" some people like: Ratt, Limp Bizkit, Niggas Wit Attitudes, Klymaxx, and what have you.


    And no, I don't like non-functional decorative umlauts either.

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  39. Also, why doesn't "America’s most stridently progressive mayor, Bill de
    Blasio" shut down the Hell's Angels clubhouse on East Third?Yes, life is too short, but still: There wasn't just a giant shootout on East Third, Kevin, you stupid fuck. And if there somehow were, I guarantee that the New York answer wouldn't be to airdrop a fuckton of firearms over the city, because they're not goddamned pro-murder dumbshits like the people running Texas right now.
    oh, you're against calling black rioters "thugs" well what about Tupac libtardsI have no problem with calling Tupac "dead."

    then I'd be playing Williamson's neither-Holy-nor-Roman-nor-an-Empire dork game with himEDROSO: Yeah, I get it, it was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire.

    WILLIAMSON: Um ... jIyajbe'.

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  40. Helmut Monotreme10:06 AM

    Those umlauts are not non-functional. They serve the important function of increasing the metal content of a band name by 100% per umlaut. It's science.

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  41. dstatton10:08 AM

    They do not expect society-at-large to address these concerns, however, preferring to do so themselves, violently.



    That makes them libertarians, right?

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  42. Chris Anderson10:08 AM

    Well happy birthday. I'm sure you'll raise the esteem of the number fifty in your own special way.

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  43. Great minds... Must be like a kind of infection.

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  44. If it had been an armed black gang, the governor would have called a drone strike before it had a chance to get violent.

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  45. And glasses of Benedictine on rocks?

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  46. It gets better.*


    *actually it doesn't.

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  47. Chris Anderson10:10 AM

    The libertarians officially deplore violence, and they've totally got a secret plan to prevent it without a government stronger than one private faction or another.

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  48. dstatton10:12 AM

    "...the Angels have been keeping that block clean and righteous for decades..."



    Do NYC's gun laws have anything to do with that?

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  49. Chris Anderson10:13 AM

    Waiter, I will take a prime cut of the Motorhead (I can't eat the whole thing) but pass on the Crue.

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  50. Don't libertarians prefer Ferengi jokes?

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  51. Don't Aren't libertarians prefer Ferengi jokes?

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  52. The only way to stop bad biker gangs with guns is with good biker gangs with guns.

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  53. tigrismus10:16 AM

    Kevin apparently thinks the Bandidos are Hispanic because the name. Does he think the Cossacks are Russian?

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  54. Chris Anderson10:16 AM

    And: some bands don't need umlauts:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fbkHtBH0xY



    "Freewheel Burning"

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  55. What part of "Grammar Nazi" do you not understand?!

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  56. No, but he does think they're useful for carrying books around.

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  57. Any comment with a Judas Priest clip is all right by me.

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  58. Living in Illinois, I won't be there, but I hope you'll raise a glass to Danbury's most famous son.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10pqluMwgXQ

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  59. This might be the first time, as a geek, that I am ashamed to never have bothered learning Klingon...

    Also, too, if those damn Swedes, had not wanted to continually practice their English on my, said shame might be unwarranted...
    ....

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  60. Chris Anderson10:36 AM

    It's kinda biker-themed, so totally relevant too.

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  61. And I now have a reason and a freaking NRO tab waiting for perusal...Thanks Roy...
    ....

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  62. susanoftexas10:38 AM

    I want to give this comment a pile of latinum.

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  63. tigrismus10:39 AM

    Yeah, but how much awesomer would Jüdas Prïest be?

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  64. susanoftexas10:42 AM

    Yes, drinking appears to be a major aspect of the BO, along with eating fine meals and getting suckers, I mean your audience, to pay for them.
    But I really want to see the Jack Daniels Option because that would be wild.

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  65. At the very least Chekov...
    ...

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  66. It saddens me that I have to agree with you....

    Once again another exercise in the "what would have happened if a gathering of Negros were involved..."
    ....

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  67. yeah, kinda feeling that!

    Thanks bud...

    If I have not said this before, your visage and pith are always appreciated!
    :)

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  68. edroso10:53 AM

    Even before the Giuliani gun sweep E. 3rd between 1st and 2nd was pretty pacific. (Except for the Fourth of July.)

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  69. Oh, its like the Frugal Movement, or a Bridal Magazine. Its all about selling the fantasy of a kind of moment. You can get people to sign up to buy your newsletter if you peddle the fantasy hard enough, and before you know it you are that Kimball guy writing folksy claptrap about a Vermont that never was to weekend cooks who never taste the crap they cobble together from your detailed recipes. Its an empire, if only reigning over weak minds.

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  70. Isn't that Deliverance?

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  71. edroso10:55 AM

    http://mmmsimpsons.tumblr.com/post/3300681388/is-there-a-word-in-klingon-for-loneliness-ah

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  72. I think the most interesting, telling, thing about the entire incident is that there was no hysterical roughing up of every white person in the parking lot. No kicking people in the head, no dragging people by their hair, no sitting on their chests--nothing. Its almost as though despite the fact that they were present, wearing gang colors and clothing, armed to the teeth, they were still treated as citizens entitled to a certain physical deference and autonomy.

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  73. coozledad11:03 AM

    Much better at orchestration than singing, but he gave it a good shot!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trkFgIMC-Ks

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  74. "Run with the Devil!
    Shout Satan's might!
    Deathtöngue!
    Deathtöngue!
    The Beast rises tonight!"

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  75. DocAmazing11:09 AM

    Hell, I had a hard time getting people to understand jokes when my salary depended on their understanding them.

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  76. DocAmazing11:13 AM

    This comment has a purty mouth.

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  77. eastriver11:14 AM

    Yes, I suppose the Angels on East Third are worse on the 4th of July. But when I lived down the block (1990-ish), they were shitheads all year round. Yes, there were fewer robberies on that block, but only because the Angels weren't into burglary. They're fucking criminals.

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  78. Why you, you ... Waitaminute.

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  79. DocAmazing11:19 AM

    Obvious, I know...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnGzl-OEyGE

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  80. "You, all right? I learned it by reading you."

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  81. witlesschum11:23 AM

    Perhaps if there was less fatherlessness and dysfunction in the white community, libertarians would be able to get Coates' jokes.

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  82. whetstone11:35 AM

    One of the great tragedies of my transition from youth to adulthood was losing the Billy and the Boingers EP.

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  83. witlesschum11:38 AM

    If you read the piece, Linker hovers the line between reporting what conservative Christians think and taking their claims of being persecuted if they aren't allowed to persecute others as being reasonable.



    It's also ahistorical in suggesting that not having a politically-mobilized evangelical Christian faction would be something knew. The modern day religious right was created in late 60s and early 70s as a response to desegregation, after all. Before that, evangelicals weren't encouraged by their pastors to be an organized political block. (I'm not sure how far back that goes.)

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  84. Also pull their damn pants up.

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  85. Haha...same. And also, a record player.

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  86. coozledad12:13 PM

    He ate the kids!

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  87. Oh, it's a kind of movement, all right.

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  88. whetstone12:26 PM

    Has anyone blamed Sons of Anarchy for the shootout? Got any contacts at the Weekly Standard or the National Review? I could bang out an essay in 15 minutes on that (I saw an episode, or part of one), and I could use some walking-around money.

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  89. Gromet12:30 PM

    But but but the operative word is "biker," not "gang"! Bikers take up the dare of the lawless open road! Gangs, uh, make our streets lawless? And dare you to walk down them? See! Totally different!

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  90. Jay B.12:32 PM

    Well, they work for the Czar.

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  91. Jay B.12:38 PM

    I'm trying to imagine the Burkean Dandies gang at Sturgis.

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  92. "We're looking for the nuclear wessels."

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  93. susanoftexas12:48 PM

    I blame my parents.

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  94. Ellis_Weiner12:50 PM

    "I saw an episode, or part of one."

    Lionel Hutz: I was in a bar last night and Matlock was on the television. The sound was turned down but I'm pretty sure I understood what went on.

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  95. Minor punctuation problem:

    Libertarian = joke

    FTFY

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  96. gocart mozart12:51 PM

    Beer and guns works better in theory than in practice.

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  97. "You'll feel a slight pinch . . ."

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  98. If you do, tell "50" I said hello. I haven't see it in years.

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  99. Go ahead an ask the mariachi band to play it. They'll do a lively rendition while the cook makes your frijoles extra special.

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  100. Also, too!



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dL-o4xieV4

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  101. And the dude in question is an associate editor, and as if the horrors will never cease, draws a fucking paycheck for intentionally fracturing the English language.

    I do it for free.
    ...

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  102. ohsopolite1:31 PM

    Pretty sure I made it the whole millisecond, but it was a stretch.

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  103. mgmonklewis1:32 PM

    Hell, let's make it awesomer and add an eth: Jüðas Prïest

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  104. Magatha1:42 PM

    I'm currently reading American Apocalypse: A History of Modern Evangelicalism, by Matthew Avery Sutton (Belknap/Harvard 2014). It's well written, but for me, it's tough going because I don't know a whole lot about US politics in the late 1800s and early 1900s. The book starts out with a wealthy real estate developer in Chicago, William E. Blackstone, writing an evangelical, apocalyptic book titled Jesus Is Coming, which was widely read and influential well into the 1930s. Sutton says its publication "...signaled the beginning of a radical new religious movement that eventually transformed the faith of millions in the United States and then the world...."


    I haven't finished the book so I don't know how it ends (I'm thinking the rapture will still be Out There) but while there were some early apocalyptic fundamentalists who preferred to withdraw from the doomed multitudes, the evangelical component spurred the development of a radical, apocalyptic, evangelical fundamentalism that built its political influence steadily over the years. They were deeply involved between the wars, and were significant political players. Places like the Moody Bible Institute and the Bible Institute of Los Angeles were very influential. And Billy Sunday: big popular dude. "In the early twentieth century evangelist Bill Sunday best exemplified the developing paradox of premillennialism: the call to exercise influence in politics and culture as aggressively as possible while preparing the world for the oncoming apocalypse."


    Eventually, they became Republicans. (Well, not all Republicans, and certainly not only Republicans.) This whole separation of church and state and freedom of religion concept had some crazy baked into it. We Americans are deeply weird.

    http://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674048362

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  105. Yes, AND they shot at police, too! Usually if a police "feels endangered" they immediately kill the threatening person, even if he/she is a kindergartner!

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  106. I bet its been One Of Those Days for you. Me too.

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  107. Yes, if those bikers had been Tamir Rice the police would have driven into the parking lot and shot them on sight.

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  108. Fascinating, Magatha, I'll definitely take a look at it. I'd be interested in reading it up against books like When Prophecy Fails, Under the Banner of Heaven, and other books on the various staggering, sprawling, apocalytpic cults that have infested the US from the beginning. Its almost more surprising that any movement lasts than that any movement springs up. Mormonism, IIRC, was just one of several kooky, solipsistic, ego driven, cults that sprang up in the region of upper new york state that gave it birth. Joseph Smith was just one of a number of prophets from the same area, not a very unique figure (except in his ultimate success).

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  109. Marion in Savannah3:46 PM

    I lived across the street from them in the early 70s and they were good neighbors then. So were the Young Lords.

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  110. If there were violent protesters in Baltimore with legitimate grievances

    Gosh, I guess there must have been none, since I'm so fucking sure the media would have informed us if there were, instead of, OH,SAY, bringing wingnuts on to go all blah blah Democrat policies thuggish blahs yadda yadda.

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  111. coozledad4:01 PM

    The presence of children had no impact on the decision to bomb MOVE.


    What whites fail to understand is the blacks are just a test run for the types of police behaviors that will be implemented when a much larger polyracial assortment of people gathers in earnest, to burn the rich.


    It's been a gradual desensitization to maiming and killing all your fellow citizens, regardless of race or ethnicity, but I think we're past that threshold. Tienanmen Square was a watershed moment for Republican concepts of policing.


    Truck a bunch of murdering hicks in to level the cities if necessary. That'll show 'em.

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  112. By "watershed moment" you mean "instruction book", correct?

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  113. Chris Anderson4:23 PM

    Do you mean to tell me that two years of Spanish classes have let me down?



    If I got "climax" wrong I'm gonna be really embarrassed.

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  114. Chris Anderson4:25 PM

    One of my little parrots is being a real bitey bastard today. I hafta keep my cool because I'm enormous and have this primate brain, but it's tough.

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  115. Can someone explain the "lemonparty" joke to me? AFAF.

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  116. Oh, Derelict! This conversation reminds me of The Man Who Was Thursday. If we ever have a real life Alicublog get together are we all going to discover that the hip young internet crowd we've been running with are all elderly cranks?

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  117. sharculese4:41 PM

    It's a classic internet shock site - an image of three old dudes going at it.

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  118. GET OFFA MAH LAWN YEW KIDS *waves cane*

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  119. Don't forget white music like Hank Williams Jr., Charlie Daniels Jr., Lynyrd Skynyrd, glorifying violence and guns. Why, there's a band called the Outlaws, and a biker gang called the Outlaws! Coincidence?


    Why, I heard a song on the radio that was openly celebrating drug manufacturers/distributors murdering law enforcement officers with the enthusiastic support of their so-called "community". It was called "Rocky Top, Tennessee". Turns out it's quite old, indicating this isn't just a problem with the current generation, it's something in the culture that celebrates violence and lawlessness.


    And did you know that white people account for 80% of violent crimes against white people? The white-on-white crime rate clearly indicates an inherent tendency towards violence.


    Hey, I'm just saying what everybody's thinking.

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  120. If you're concerned about whitey, don't listen to that Country & Western stuff. Full of violence, domestic abuse, adultery, alcoholism and truck fetishes. SICK SICK SICK

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  121. Ah, you were deceived—deliberately—by the exoteric Manson Family and the great show that was made of it.

    Meanwhile, the esoteric Manson Family has become the modern Republican Party. HELTER SKELTER!!!

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  122. DN Nation5:13 PM

    K-Lo used to edit the NRO. It can always be worse.

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  123. P.S.: I am not a crank . . .

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  124. What Mr. Williamson actually meant to write:

    "America’s most stridently progressive biggest fucking whitey-hating Communist mayor, Bill de Blasio"

    Just a typo, I imagine.

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  125. As i seem to be at the young end of the spectrum, imma guessing yes!
    ...

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  126. gold pressed even...
    ...

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  127. Imma gonna need a value for worse, before i plug it into any equation...
    ...

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  128. WTF is "gold-pressed latinum", anyway?

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  129. Smurch6:32 PM

    I spent the better part of a decade slowly replacing my LPs and cassettes with their corresponding CDs.... and now I'm too old and tired to replace them all again with music files :-p

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  130. Smurch6:36 PM

    Airbrush much?

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  131. Revoolant:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XL7fqjK_l4

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  132. AGoodQuestion6:54 PM

    I might tell him that the Angels have been keeping that block clean and righteous for decades, as opposed to shooting it up Waco-style, but then I'd be playing Williamson's neither-Holy-nor-Roman-nor-an-Empire dork game with him, and life is too fucking short.
    Why yes, Mr. Edroso, you can get an "amen."

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  133. AGoodQuestion6:58 PM

    All we have to do is turn the Sons of Anarchy real and deputize them. Easy-peasy.

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  134. AGoodQuestion7:09 PM

    It kind of sounds like a precious metal that you'd drink as a morning pick-me-up.

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  135. Chairman Pao7:18 PM

    "Airbrush" is so judge-y.


    Let's say that they applied some objectivism to her mug.

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  136. Does it involve lemons?

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  137. You made me use Google and now I hate you.

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  138. Jimcima7:34 PM

    Interestingly enough Manson was actually a Scientologist in the late fifties and early sixties, leaving (or so he said) because he had reached "clear" level.


    Well that, and he wanted to kill people.

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  139. sharculese8:29 PM

    I told you exactly what it was. Anything that happens after that is on you.

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  140. John Wesley Hardin8:41 PM

    Yeah, that will be charming.

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  141. John Wesley Hardin8:46 PM

    It's spelled that way because the Bandidos were founded by ignorant, Texan (but I repeat myself), motorcycle gangsters thugs -owning citizens with a hearty interest in certain portions of the 2nd amendment and all sorts of mind altering chemicals.

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  142. John Wesley Hardin8:47 PM

    None more black.

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  143. Lurking Canadian9:02 PM

    I once heard a white thug song glorifying the act of murder for its own sake. I forget the name. "Reno Jail" or something? The performer was one of those white thugs obsessed with money. He even had a name that sounded like money. Jack Moolah? Joe Dollar? Something like that, anyway.

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  144. I called in a favor at work so I can attend. I will have a bottle of homemade rocket fuel (not a traditional limoncello, but a lemon/orange/lime infusion) with me... hopefully enough for everyone to have a shot.

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  145. smut clyde9:41 PM

    Shirley you mean "Jüðas Þrïest".

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  146. mgmonklewis9:47 PM

    That's a thorny question, but I defer to you.

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  147. smut clyde9:51 PM

    Sounds like the oddest thing about the Seeker UFO cult (described in When Prophecy Fails) is that, unlke the Mormons and all these 1900s fundamentalists, their credibility actually took a hit from the failure of prophecy.

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  148. billcinsd9:56 PM

    you probably like Frito's, too

    http://gpapanto.deviantart.com/art/Frito-Bandito-82007978

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  149. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person10:00 PM

    I worked with an outlaw biker (unaffiliated) in the '80s. He was proud that he was the only white guy ever asked to ride with the Bandidos. Things may have changes since then...

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  150. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person10:02 PM

    I love the ST movies, but there were some really stupid scenes in 'em, and that was definitely one of 'em...

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  151. billcinsd10:03 PM

    Robert DeNiro?

    I understand he is waiting AND talking Eye-talian. Also, wondering if you are looking at him

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  152. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person10:06 PM

    But...Toys For Tots!

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  153. tigrismus10:18 PM

    According to wikipedia, they're majority white, and it sounds like they always have been, so maybe that was a local quirk.

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  154. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person10:20 PM

    Funny, it just occurred to me I haven't heard much out of K-Lo lately. I don't read the Korner, and only hear what the Leftblog flappers think I need to hear, so I guess she's not saying much of note these days.

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  155. Meanie-meanie, tickle a person10:29 PM

    Or maybe they were just fucking with him. Or he with me...

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  156. AngryWarthogBreath10:32 PM

    God, the more these guys whine about not being allowed to kill everyone dusky, the more I hate whitey, and I fucking am whitey.

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  157. billcinsd10:38 PM

    did you wear a red nose? I understand, from old Patch Adams ads, that makes all doctor-jokers funnier.

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  158. billcinsd10:44 PM

    Hey it's the 75th year this summer, so those dandies will be swamped by all the return of the Rights of Men gang. T. Paine got a Thug Story and he's always in tune

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  159. Tehanu10:56 PM

    I need more upvotes for this but I'm too lazy to create a whole bunch of new avatars & monikers.

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  160. Tehanu10:59 PM

    It's made out of handwavium.

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  161. Grondo11:09 PM

    This particular incident has generated so much stupidity, it deserves its own entry in Guinness. A "riot" is the unlawful violent rampage of a random, unorganized crowd, with no particular agenda. What happened in Waco was a biker-gang war shootout. Their clear agenda was to settle their biker beefs. The cops knew it was likely coming and were all set up beforehand. They KILLED 9 bikers, wounded 18, and arrested hundreds of them.

    This is what the Left does to itself all the time - get hung up on word-choice and "tone" and proceed to shoot itself in the foot while the wingnuts sit back and laugh their asses off at us.

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  162. I remember when they killed some kid when they put a fuckton of fireworks in a metal barrel and it predictable caused major mayhem.

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  163. Outstanding! And here's the place we'll be meeting:


    http://www.phovietnamrestaurant.com/menu.html

    See ya next Saturday at noon!

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  164. Halloween_Jack9:52 AM

    I know who you mean, and he's all about the weird names.

    https://youtu.be/WOHPuY88Ry4

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  165. Halloween_Jack10:12 AM

    Hell, even with the deep suspicion that a lot of American Protestants traditionally held recent-immigrant Catholics in, you still had people like Father Coughlin accumulating a surprising amount of power.

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  166. Halloween_Jack10:15 AM

    That's my thought, as well. It sounds as if Linker believes they can do whatever they want in their compounds as long as they don't send snake handlers to Congress.

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  167. Magatha11:21 AM

    Oh, the run-up to Hoover's election was brutal, with Al Smith as the Democratic nominee. Al Smith was Roman Catholic as well as anti-Prohibition, and the vicious papal conspiracy proponents damn near got the south to vote Republican. The south didn't quite cross over to the party of the Great Emancipator, but Republicans made deep inroads into that electorate.


    The book quotes extensively from letters to the editor and letters to influential people, and it's amazing: some of them are as vile and fantastical as anything you read online today.


    Hell, my own father voted against JFK in no small part because he suspected JFK would take his instructions from Rome. The ultimate fear for the hard-core anti-Catholics was that it would signal the One World Satanist government. (Not for my dad; he just thought the Vatican was icky.) Back in 1928 it was secret agendas and evil League of Nations, and Soviet threats, and if black helicopters had been invented, there'd have been sightings of those, too.

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  168. Fine, it's Obama's fault.

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  169. StringOnAStick12:55 PM

    I personally knew I had arrived in dental practitioner-land when my coming towards a patient with a Q-tip covered in topical anesthetic made my patient scream.

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  170. J Neo Marvin1:44 PM

    You have to admit that they serve a damn fine cup of coffee.

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  171. BigHank532:18 PM

    How'd we be able to tell the difference?

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  172. Plantsmantx4:12 AM

    So, the Draft Riots and most if not all of the riots of the "Red Summer of 1919" weren't really riots?

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