Bill O'Reilly recently asked guests on his show whether a not-guilty verdict would cause people to "run out and cause trouble," or worse, "damage the fabric of the nation." The Washington Times ran an online poll Wednesday asking readers, "Will there be riots in Florida if George Zimmerman receives a not-guilty verdict by a jury of his peers?" Seventy-four percent said yes. Sean Hannity had Mark Fuhrman (of O.J. Simpson trial fame) on his show this week and asked him the same question. His response, according to Newshounds, a Fox News watchdog site: "I just think it's kind of pathetic that a court of law cannot be in a vacuum of the legal system without the influence of the public threatening to do great bodily harm to people and property. It's really a pathetic statement for our country." Last October, speculation that African Americans would riot from coast to coast if President Barack Obama lost to Mitt Romney swept conservative news sites.David Weigel did a few columns on this, the more recent of which features a Drudge front page pretending "America gripped by second night of fury," and links to similar gibberish from the Daily Mail and Jim fucking Hoft. Weigel's column is called "Who's Disappointed About the Lack of Mass Zimmerman Verdict Riots?" and the answer is pretty clear: Conservative specialists in the old Ooga Booga.
At the Wall Street Journal, James Taranto takes off from Weigel's column -- but goes in a, let us say, counterintuitive direction. His over-reactors are nameless "British newspaper" and "conspiracy website," as well as "the Broward County sheriff and the Sanford police" who "put out a public-service ad in which cops, teenagers and James Jones of basketball's Miami Heat urged viewers: 'Raise Your Voice, Not Your Hands.'" See, the local cops tried to preemptively chill people out -- that's pretty close to Michelle Malkin crying, "Zimmerman verdict: NOT guilty -- Calls for race riots in 3, 2, 1..." Robert Stacy McCain predicting "If #Zimmerman is acquitted, black people will riot," etc.
Also, Taranto finds one of those real-racists on which conservative commentary thrives: "Today New York's Daily News does its best to inflame the situation, front-paging an editorial that likens Zimmerman's killing of Trayvon Martin to half a dozen decades-old cases," which is, yes you guessed it, "an outrageously racist bit of yellow journalism, imputing guilt to Zimmerman because the color of his skin is similar to that of men who committed horrific crimes decades ago. The News editorial reflects the perverse nostalgia for pervasive racism--and for the moral clarity and righteousness that accompanied it--that is common among liberals today..."
Meanwhile elsewhere in Wingnut World: National Review's alleged cop Jack Dunphy tells us about the Fire This Time in L.A.: "...as I write this Monday night there is a group causing a ruckus on Crenshaw Boulevard, disrupting traffic, vandalizing cars, and briefly storming a Walmart... Except for a few torched trash cans, there were no fires and no widespread looting in L.A. Monday night. But that could change if this keeps up.." Briefly storming a Walmart! Helter skelter! By tomorrow Dunphy will report himself pinned down by price-gun fire, but determined to get word out to civilization about the Trayvon Riots.
And after Jamelle Bouie explains to him that "black-on-black crime" -- the traditional means by which conservatives pretend to care more about black lives than black people, when such a distraction is needed -- just means that black people who commit crimes tend to live near other black people, whom they victimize, Dunphy's colleague Patrick Brennan just keeps repeating his mantras: "it’s disproportionately being committed by blacks... African Americans commit dramatically more crime, especially violent crimes and murders, than whites do... still committing crimes at shockingly disproportionate rates... blacks are much more likely to commit more murders than whites... it becomes apparent that black-on-black crime is a special problem... lots of blacks are committing crimes..."
Brennan and the rest of him know their audience and what keeps 'em coming back.
UPDATE. In comments, synykyl: "Given that young black males are by far the most likely victims of gun violence, shouldn't conservatives be calling for a national campaign to arm them? Conservatives aren't racists, and they believe an armed society is a polite society, so why haven't they jumped on this idea?" Well, you see...
One thing I have learned very well from conservatives in my lifetime, they don't know shit about reality at all.
ReplyDeleteBriefly storming a WalMart? This NEVER happens! These are truly the End Times.
ReplyDeleteWell, you must admit, if you really want to terrify white people right down to their very core, you strike where their heart is.
ReplyDeleteI heard Taranto on a local L.A. radio news chat show last week, saying that if Trayvon Martin was attacked, he had two options--fight or flight. Since he didn't flee, it meant he fought. That, Taranato implied, was sufficient justification for Zimmerman to kill him.
ReplyDeleteHeads you die, tails I kill you. There isn't a pit of hell deep or hot enough for these people.
I can't help thinking that, now that Jim Crow and lynching are back in style, if there'll be an "Alexander wept" moment on the right.
ReplyDeleteI suppose the next front is the War on Women, then it'll be time to try to roll back all the new gay rights stuff.
Dammit, I was promised mayhem and I want mayhem. I'd console myself that some team will win a championship soon, but that'll be months.
ReplyDeleteUgh, just imagine how NOBAMA will act when some team wins a championship! He'll invite them over so he can bask in the reflected glory of their win, because there's nothing this Kenyan won't do for a photo opp OR he'll meet with them in secret, shutting the nation out of a celebration that as taxpayers we have a right to behold. #IAmThe53Percent #AndNothingMakesMeHappy #AndIAmIncoherent
ReplyDeleteRioters spotted at Walmart in the wake of nationwide turkey slaughter!
ReplyDelete...although for some inexplicable reason, white power bloggers were not alarmed....
He's like a quantum President that way. He has a 50-50 chance of doing the wrong thing. Until he decides, at which point whatever he decided to do was 100% wrong.
ReplyDeleteLast night, as soon as the first reports of the demonstration rolled in, one of my dopier Facebook friends made a post that led to a textbook example of this kind of shit.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite is "Marshall law" (great comic by the way) and the guy who wanted to say what he was thinking but of course he couldn't but we all knew what he was thinking.
This was very early on in the evening, remember. In the wake of a guy getting off for shooting a black child, their thoughts turn immediately to shooting more black people. This is not an accident.
Oh and strangely, no one replied to my post, and the thread stopped there.
ReplyDeleteMarshall Law!
ReplyDelete"I can see Marshall Law being enacted again ?" Again? Since when?
Love your comment: "Dear God, it's the end of everything."
ReplyDeleteI was worried they would agree with me.
ReplyDeleteOkay, when you said, "Wow, I knew Daniel Foster of National Review was awful, but not that he was this big of an asshole till now" yesterday? That's my reaction to Taranto:
ReplyDeleteThe last recorded lynching occurred 32 years ago--11 years earlier than the last major race riots. The Supreme Court is right and the New York Times is wrong: Things have changed dramatically. If both lynch mobs and race riots are things of the past, whites and blacks alike have made enormous progress in their attitudes toward race.
Seriously. Seriously, he went there.
I think it was the 80s.
ReplyDeleteNope, there were no LA riots in the 1980s, and martial law was not declared in the '92 riot. Scared little rightwingers are scared of things that didn't actually happen.
ReplyDeleteI'd be hard pressed to know whether martial law has ever been declared in the US, at least in the 20th century - anyone know? (googling.....)
whites and blacks alike have made enormous progress in their attitudes toward race.
ReplyDeleteWhich our republicans have been trying to reverse since the 60s.
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their thoughts turn immediately to shooting more black people
ReplyDeleteThis happened all over the internet, wherever the gop base posted.
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I was talking about the comic. Lame joke.
ReplyDeleteIf both lynch mobs and race riots are things of the past,
ReplyDeleteJames Taranto will have to find something else to get him off.
"an outrageously racist bit of yellow journalism, imputing guilt to Zimmerman because the color of his skin is similar to that of men who committed horrific crimes decades ago."
ReplyDeleteIndeed, the only fair points of historical guilt-by-association are Saul Alinsky, Monica Lewinsky, Chappaquiddick, Robert "KKK" Byrd, Frank Marshall Davis, William Ayers, The Black Panthers and Hitler. Anything else an outrageously racist bit of yellow journalism.
Wait, so if Martin attempted self-defense, that was wrong of him, but if Zimmerman attempted self-defense, that was justifiable.
ReplyDeleteIt's almost like there's some sort of double standard at work here...
Martial law has been declared many times in the US in the 20th century, though only on a local level and not nationwide. Usually it's in the wake of a natural disaster such as Hurricane Katrina, though they declared martial law in Tulsa during the race riots in the 20s.
ReplyDeleteSeriously, white people riot for way dumber reasons than black people. Being angry that black people can be murdered by the police or just a common citizen and not receive any justice is pretty reasonable. Wrecking shit and burning buildings because of the outcome of a sporting event is striving for an Idiocracy level of stupid.
ReplyDeleteI've been in a couple WalMarts and have yet to see any white people's hearts. Now, if you had said artery-clogging transfats, gallstones, and incipient diabetes there are several aisles devoted to those.
ReplyDeleteGiven that young black males are by far the most likely victims of gun violence (1), shouldn't conservatives be calling for a national campaign to arm them? Conservatives aren't racists, and they believe an armed society is a polite society, so why haven't they jumped on this idea?
ReplyDelete(1) I have no idea if this is true or not. I just said it because it was useful in justifying the conclusion I wanted to reach. Yeah, I could have been all "rigorous" and "scholarly" and just misinterpreted some statistics instead of making up my own, but why should conservatives (and libertarians) have all the fun?
I dearly want to see Taranto and O'Really beat each other to death with nerf bats.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I think we have the answer to the outcome of the Zimmerman trial:
He's still got killing Muslims as a fallback wank.
ReplyDeleteOr indulging in his occupation as a misogynistic raging asshole.
ReplyDeleteMakes me feel all Christmasy!
ReplyDeleteMore fresh, tasty mangoes via Richard Cohen:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/richard-cohen-racism-vs-reality/2013/07/15/4f419eb6-ed7a-11e2-a1f9-ea873b7e0424_story.html?hpid=z2
Shorter: "Assuming black kids are criminals is TOTES not racist, because... reasons."
Cohen is living proof that some people turn into even bigger assholes as they get older.
ReplyDeleteWell, I think it is clear that after this outcome, young black men should always travel in groups, for safety. And under no circumstances should they be unarmed. I think that's a position everyone can endorse.
ReplyDeleteSnark aside, Gary Younge's column at http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jul/14/open-season-black-boys-verdict pretty much says it directly. I really can't imagine what it is like to be a parent of a teenager in Florida now.
If both lynch mobs and race riots are things of the past
ReplyDeleteIt won't be for lack of trying.
Dude. Not enough mayhem June 28th?
ReplyDelete(I know, white people, doesn't count)
What happened to those flash mobs of thugs that were terrorizing the streets of our fair cities? Did they all become locovores and grow ironic facial hair? I just can't keep up with fads these days.
ReplyDelete#hashtagwin
ReplyDelete"One thing I have learned very well from conservatives in my lifetime, they don't know shit about reality at all."
ReplyDeletePerhaps they are not related to reality, but on the other hand, it's usually easy to discern the primary source-film, TV show, or novel (rarely) from which conservative ideas and facts are drawn, and then you have a starting point for understanding. I repeat: identifying the TV show, movie, or discredited or fictional book from which conservative ideas are drawn is essential! Looking for facts or principles will only lead to mis-understanding and argument.
He went there because, for conservatives, racism can only manifest itself in these two forms. Anything else--whether we're talking apartheid, refusing to hire or serve black people, or even burning crosses on lawns--is not racism: It's merely vigorous free speech.
ReplyDelete"I just think it's kind of pathetic that a court of law cannot be in a
ReplyDeletevacuum of the legal system without the influence of the public
threatening to do great bodily harm to people and property. It's really a
pathetic statement for our country."
And yet Second Amendment solutions require serious thought, patriots.
It's almost like there are two different standards here. Wonder what you call that.
ReplyDeleteCohen just barely waits until his second sentence to dive to the bottom of the barrel. How has this guy not been exiled to Tucker Carlson's e-rag?
ReplyDeleteThey somehow failed to mention that LA cops outnumbered LA demonstrators. and the cops were the ones dispensing all--not most, all--of the violence.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure everyone has a brother-in-law (or other relative) like mine who worships the almighty firearm and interprets the 2nd Amndmnt to mean they can own and use any type of weapon indiscriminately, but who will also then "justify" that ass-hattery by conjuring roaming gangs of armed Messicans (or blacks, muslims, etc.) that they need to "defend" themselves against. And with absolutely no irony or sign of self-awareness, he is incapable of understanding that his pro-armed society stand applies to these "gangs" just as much as peace-loving white folks.
ReplyDelete(my computer's spell check decided that ass-hattery must be ass-battery...hmmmm, silicon-based lifeforms are a bit kinky, eh?)
There's been a lot of argument over the use of the word "lynching" in relation to this killing.
ReplyDeleteWhether the state-sanctioned killing of Martin was a lynching or just the predictable result of a delusional hothead suddenly realizing he was a pussy and pardoned for killing someone for the stereotypes haunting his dreams, the PUBLIC is certainly determined to get its money's worth from this event.
We should remember that old-styled lynchings weren't only about psychotics getting their rocks off humiliating, degrading, brutalizing, controlling, and ultimately snuffing the life from another human being--they were primarily a terrorist act.
Lynchings were meant to "send a message" to those who might next be targets, if society didn't give in to the terrorist's demands.
There are thousands (or more) online comments like this from a troll on another site, "I think Travon and punks like him are now served that not more of your BS in our cities or look what happends."
How many statements like this do we need to see and hear to understand that there is a HUGE contingent of racial terrorists plaguing this nation who are desperate to take ownership of this killing and put it to their own ends, regardless of the intention of the fuckhead Zimmerman?
Everyone knows this killing was about much more than the individual confrontation between two people, but there seem to be two primary reactions to the result--those that believe it was a form of justice and necessary to "send a message", and the rest of us normal folks who have been pretending (wishing) that this form of racism was nearly gone from our society.
Guess what? It's alive and healthy.
Hey, you can't pre-emptively make an omelet without beating the shit out of the chickens.
ReplyDeleteDid they all become locovores
ReplyDeleteOh, if only there were a major outbreak of eating crazy people.
Comitatus interruptus is always dissatisfying.
ReplyDeleteWhite people's hearts are in the frozen meat section.
ReplyDeleteBut they were wrecking storefronts in one of Chicago's most well-off neighborhoods out of joy! Joy and whiteness! That's like getting mad because your mom threw an apple pie through your window.
ReplyDeleteThere is not enough irony in the world to contain the fact that pictures of Vancouver fans rioting about hockey were passed around as proof people were rioting about the Zimmerman verdict.
Some poor guys can't get any posse.
ReplyDeleteLieberals keep stealing their cat's pajamas!
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