Monday, May 13, 2013

ANNALS OF THE CULTURE WAR, TV PARTY EDITION.

William F. Gavin at National Review on Mad Men:
...the show has degenerated into absurdity, loss of focus, and meandering plot lines. The main character has become eccentric, distant, increasingly mean-spirited, and disoriented. 
Gee, come to think of it, this sounds just like the Obama administration, doesn’t it?
At dinner tonight, Gavin told friends, "This soup is thin and bitter -- like Obama!" Leaving the restaurant, he buttoned his jacket and remarked, "The night's gotten cold, like Obama's relationship with the press. Or maybe like the corpses of the babies slaughtered by Planned Parenthood." But no one was left to hear him.

Elsewhere in the same venue, Greg Pollowitz:
Somebody Should Get Fired Over SNL's Benghazi Skit
It’s gotten to the point where I’m amazed when SNL is actually funny or relevant as political satire, but Saturday’s cold open wasn’t just a dud as a joke, but completely offensive to the four Americans who lost their lives in Benghazi.
I imagine Pollowitz drunk at some bar, yelling "This jukebox is full of lies!" Like I often say: Do they even know any normal people?

118 comments:

  1. billcinsd10:45 PM

    We've got nothing better to do
    Than watch T.V. and have a couple of brews

    All our friends are gonna hang out here tonight

    Alright!

    We're gonna pass out on the couch alright

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  2. Pollowitz: Somebody Should Get Fired Over SNL's Benghazi Skit
    ...completely offensive to the four Americans who lost their lives in Benghazi....


    If that's true I wonder who should get fired over Bush's Correspondents Dinner skit where he joked about looking for nonexistent WMDs under the furniture when hundreds of soldiers had already lost their lives and many more had been wounded in the vain search for them.

    A comedy show joking about Republican fishing expeditions? Terribly vulgar. But a President joking about a disproven premise for a disastrous and unnecessary war? Hee-larious!

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  3. Spaghetti Lee11:08 PM

    "The Obama administration has become increasingly mean-spirited. Now, here's a panel of National Review experts to explain why Obama is a baby-killing America-hating gay commie Muslim terrorist."

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  4. AngryWarthogBreath11:24 PM

    Well, don't let the analogy rest there, Bill! (I can call you Bill, right, Bill? Oh, you despise being called Bill because of the similarities to Clinton? Moving on.) You've determined that Mad Men is just like the Obama administration. Push further, man! Obviously Obama works in marketing, is actually in the 1960s, and changed his name from...


    ...I keep trying to get to parody, and they're always ALREADY THERE.

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  5. smut clyde11:27 PM

    completely offensive to the four Americans who lost their lives in Benghazi.

    Even now they are storming out, slamming the door behind them.

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  7. Somebody Should Get Fired Over SNL's Benghazi Skit

    Having skimmed your article, Greg, may I just say that it's both appropriate and appreciated that you're volunteering.

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  8. DocAmazing11:45 PM

    If anything, people at SNL should be fired when their skits aren't offensive enough.

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  9. The main character has become eccentric, distant, increasingly mean-spirited, and disoriented.

    Yeah, I liked the original adulterer and intermittent parent who assumed a dead guy's identity, too, before the writers made him all weird and emotionally inaccessible.

    At dinner tonight, Gavin told friends, "This soup is thin and bitter -- like Obama!"

    Given the renowned attention to detail that he brought to bear on subjects like Mad Men, no one dared point out to Gavin that it was a finger bowl.

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  10. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard11:58 PM

    Saturday’s cold open wasn’t just a dud as a joke, but completely offensive to the four Americans who lost their lives in Benghazi


    How does one offend the dead?

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  11. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard12:04 AM

    We've got nothing better to do
    Than watch T.V., and write a passel of spew.
    Don't talk about anything else, we don't wanna know.
    We're dedicated to taking down "O".

    Agenda 21! Grabbing guns!

    Soros!
    Pigford!

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  12. DonBoy212:04 AM

    I saw that sketch, and politics aside, the headline is right: someone should have been fired for it. It may have been the worst fucked-up cold open in SNL history.

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  13. Tehanu1:46 AM

    Well, they won't find any brains at the National Review.

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  14. Ben in Berkeley2:18 AM

    "This jukebox is full of lies!" Is my new motto. Or rallying cry. Whatever.

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  15. Malignant Bouffant5:18 AM

    And for most jukeboxes it's absolutely true.

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  16. Derelict7:41 AM

    Sorry, but I doubt it will overtake "The cake is a lie!" among the young and hip set.

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  17. Derelict7:43 AM

    It's a exhausting life, keeping one eye open at all times in the hunt for political offense. Remember: Conservatism is the greatest political philosophy the world has ever know. And that's why it cannot withstand even the most cursory questioning. So, SHUT UP!

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  18. And it's not even about "conservatism" anymore, is it? It's about frightened, angry people feeling betrayed by their authority figures and casting about for someone else to blame. It's about finding excuses to perpetuate tribalism and social exclusion in the service of false security and selfishness. And ultimately it's about burning down the house rather than share it with Others.





    BTW--anyone else having muy trouble logging in with Disqus? Takes me about 57 tries before it will log me in. Hmmmm

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  19. smut clyde8:43 AM

    And the piano has been drinking!

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  20. Provider_UNE9:01 AM

    If that's true I wonder who should get fired over Bush's Correspondents Dinner skit where he joked about looking for nonexistent WMDs under the furniture when hundreds of soldiers had already lost their lives and many more had been wounded in the vain search for them.


    Thanks for reminding me of the most shameless moment of the 21st century.
    ...

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  21. BigHank539:15 AM

    Actually, This Jukebox is Full of Lies starting to sound like a George Jones song. Somebody should finish writing it.

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  22. mortimer9:15 AM

    the show got off to an exciting start... But now the show has degenerated...

    Shorter William Gavin: The Sixties ruined everything!

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  23. Ellis_Weiner10:09 AM

    "This jukebox is full of lies!"


    Because you ARE someone EVEN WHEN nobody loves you! I should know!

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  24. reallyaimai10:19 AM

    Can't see any disqus comments at all on my computer, on any site. I've tried everything I can and I just give up.

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  25. LittlePig11:08 AM

    It's quite meta. What is mean-spirited to a denizen of the Mecca of Mean-Spiritedness?

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  26. XeckyGilchrist11:24 AM

    It's a formula that's worked for South Park all these years.

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  27. Jimcima11:27 AM

    You know, they actually have a point, four Americans did die in Benghazi. Not that these assholes actually give a fuck, or could name any of them except maybe the ambassador, who was someone they would have called a traitor and a shithead for being a member of the Nigger Administration but hey, a corpse is a corpse and if you can't dance on their grave what good are they anyway?

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  28. Not only that, but Don's a drunk. Drunks do tend to get worse over time.

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  29. Al Swearengen12:06 PM

    Anti-hero? Conservatives watch Mad Men for nostalgia of the “Good Old Days”. Expect much more winger butthurt with the show as it progresses into the bad ol’ 60s.

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  30. LookWhosInTheFreezer12:22 PM

    "eccentric, distant, increasingly mean-spirited, and disoriented."



    Copied/pasted directly from a Craigslist job ad for a position at National Review

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  31. Al Swearengen12:22 PM

    National Review, the brain-free firebreak against any zombie invasion.


    However, if zombies get a taste for doughy pantloads, we're all dead.

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  32. wileywitch12:22 PM

    Of course he's "distant, increasingly men-spirited, and disoriented"--- from the beginning of the show to the beginning of the sixth season, Don Draper has drunk enough to destroy his own and every liver within shouting distance.

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  33. Mad Monk12:57 PM

    If you randomly polled any group of Americans, I'm betting 95% would guess that Ben Ghazi was maybe one of SNL's new cast members.

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  34. Gromet1:03 PM

    This is not how comedy works. "The risks you took only made some of the people laugh. You're fired." Nope, not how comedy works. (Well, maybe in Pyongyang.)

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  35. DonBoy21:09 PM

    I said "politics aside". Did you see the sketch in question? Three or four characters whose names in their sketch didn't match their nameplates, including a too-soon Ariel Castro reference; the entire thing played to a silent audience. That's what I was referring to, although I guess not clearly enough.

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  36. Jay B.1:11 PM

    Shut up, I can't stands the nagging anymore!!! Why won't you just get off my back?!


    Wait. Is this Domino's?

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  37. Jay B.1:13 PM

    The main character has become eccentric, distant, increasingly mean-spirited, and disoriented.


    Not like the Republican fathers I've known! They start on distant and mean-spirited. The disorientation comes later.

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  38. PulletSurprise1:15 PM

    I would pay Henry Rollins to record this in long form.

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  39. I don't think that they think he's gay. Could that be the basis for some rapprochement?

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  40. DocAmazing1:27 PM

    Ben Gazzara on SNL? I'm tuning in!

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  41. Gromet1:35 PM

    "I can't laugh at this Jodi Arias impression because the fake nameplates don't match. Someone needs to lose their job, pronto."

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  42. Thanks for reminding me of the most shameless moment of the 21st century.


    Isn't this jumping the gun, and the locker in which it is safely secured, unloaded? I'll grant you that it was pretty shameless, but the Bush/Cheney shamelessness list is pretty long. Also, there are many years left in the 21st century, and if nothing else, Ted Cruz is probably going to run for president.

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  43. tim1171:47 PM

    Go to Jim Hoft's place or Weasel Zippers or the NRO comment forum....the crazies do believe he is very gay and closeted

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  44. tim1171:54 PM

    Seriously, I can't belive you don't know. There are no more sensitive victims in the world than an American conservative, who takes offense over anything, including with reality itself

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  45. tim1171:56 PM

    I love this comment so much

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  46. Provider_UNE2:32 PM

    I should have clarified with "one of" or "to date." Forgive me, but it appears that I am rolling with my C+ game today.
    ...

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  47. Provider_UNE2:36 PM

    The Sixties ruined everything!


    I'd say that sums up the Conservative excuse for everything, also, too, fluoride.
    ...

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  48. Provider_UNE2:39 PM

    You left a few N*ggers off of your list...Wait, Pigford is as good a stand in as any.


    Carry on...If anyone needs me, I'll be standing in the corner...
    ...

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  49. Haystack2:42 PM

    We can see you, Aimai! We're calling for help.

    I particularly enjoy how Disqus freezes my computer for 15 seconds - EVERY TIME - for the simple crime of clicking on Roy's comment link.

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  50. Really? I had no idea. I stand corrected!

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  51. MikeJ3:17 PM

    But when you go out of your way to be as offensive as possible you don't actually have to be funny. You can simply say that anybody that doesn't find it funny is being too PC.

    I firmly believe that there's nothing that isn't a possible starting point for a good joke, but it requires a lot more talent to be funny when discussing some issues than it does to simply shock.

    Shock humor is lazy humor.

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  52. bekabot3:17 PM

    "Don't stop believing/hold onto that feeling..."

    "AhHA!! But you'll find that you can't hold onto that feeling and that it's unwise even to try!! Do you want to be one of those desperate oldsters a la Harvey Dangerfield who hangs around with young kids in the hopes that maybe a little bit of la jeunesse will rub off and that the chances which were missed or flubbed the first time round will reappear and be fulfilled? My God, pathetic isn't even the word for it: mendacious is. So that I say that this jukebox is full of lies!! All lies!! Lies and yet more lies!! HaHAHaHAHaHAHaHAHaHAHaHAAAAAAAAAAhh!!



    But no, wait a minute. That won't work because — it's way too reality-based.

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  53. smut clyde3:37 PM

    Carly Simon's assertions as to cloud formation within coffee cups have been thoroughly refuted, and I am not convinced that she is really a meteorologist.

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  54. reallyaimai3:51 PM

    Sorry for the " is that you god, it's me aimai" style post but I can only get disqus on my iPhone so I can't be as prolix as I want.

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  55. BigHank534:11 PM

    Are you attempting to convince me that Fred is, in point of fact, not too sexy for his shirt?

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  56. That was on Earth-69, where Batista was the communist dictator and Castro the scrappy right-libertarian freedom fighter. Fortunately, as this world's conservosphere would no doubt assure us, having a father from an alternate universe in no way affects Ted's native-born American citizenship status.

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  57. Don't give the administration any ideas.

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  58. All the more reason for President Obama to reach around out to them.

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  59. Hmm, when isolated like that, it seems like a little editing would enable it to be an addition to "enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus," as sung to the tune of "Kokomo." [h/t The Editors of Poor Man, whever hethey isare.]


    "Enormous, mendacious, disembodied anus;
    Eccentric, mean-spirited, disoriented, distant ..."

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  60. Sorry for the " is that you god, it's me aimai" style post


    You mean all of them?


    [Ducks and runs for nearest exit]

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  63. Provider_UNE5:26 PM

    That was on Earth-69


    I think you meant "Flat-Earth-69, The Awakening."


    Starring a Drunken Conservative, (which is the only time you might find a glimmer of generosity or a willingness to try new things.)



    The morning after:

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    /Friends, Allicurati, and Countryfolk, this is how I roll!
    ...

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  64. montag25:34 PM

    "Do they even know any normal people?"


    If this were simple answers to simple questions, it would be right to simply say, "no."


    Would it be fair to also say that the right wing has become even more insular the more it has fucked up publicly? I think so. After eight years of rolling disasters thanks to Shrub, they've become even more incestuous, even more like the closeted Birchers of yore. I mean, shit, these are supposed to be the public intellectuals of the conservative movement, and they sound like the H.L. Hunt family at the dinner table.

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  65. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard7:05 PM

    More like the Sawney Bean family at the dinner table.

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  66. nellcote7:13 PM

    One the other hand the dead would not doubt be very supportive of the GOP fund raising over it.

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  67. montag27:42 PM

    Oh, you think it was just an idle choice of comparisons, eh?

    Scroll down to the 10-minute video for this particular little delight, courtesy of Adam Curtis and the BBC.

    Stay right on through to the end, and you get to hear H.L. Hunt singing. You'll see what I meant.

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  68. David DeRosa7:54 PM

    I should have provided the rest of the quote "but "didn't know Castro was a Communist" and later became a staunch
    critic of Castro when "the rebel leader took control and began seizing
    private property and suppressing dissent."

    Well, "WHOCOULDAKNOWED! ¡Viva la Revolución Te' Partido!"
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  69. calling all toasters9:12 PM

    "I liked the original adulterer and intermittent parent who assumed a dead guy's identity, too"



    So, Obama is dead and Frank Marshall's son took his identity?


    I'm asking for a friend.

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  70. calling all toasters9:16 PM

    "and politics aside"


    No one at the National Review has any idea what that phrase means.

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    Man, Hollywood fucks up everything.

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    I quite agree.

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  77. AngryWarthogBreath6:15 AM

    I'm pretty sure it just boils down to:

    "Obama is bad."
    "X is bad."
    "Therefore, Obama is X."

    I would say "not literally; X just meaning the wildcard", but, as I recall, Atlas Shrugs did insist that he was Malcolm X's lovechild.



    (Which I suspect is also part:



    "Obama is black."
    "X is black."
    "Therefore, Obama is DMX."
    "Yeah, Obama gonna give it to ya. 'It' being free healthcare you didn't earn, you lazy black people."
    "My head hurts when I think.")

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  78. Tudor Jennings6:20 AM

    I understand that Hillary will cover the gay part of the conspiracy.
    Not sure who the actual Alien Lizard Overlord is.... Biden? You know, that'd be a great camouflage.

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  79. Tudor Jennings6:22 AM

    Is he related to that Al Jazeera reporter-guy?

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  80. Well, "WHOCUDANOWED! ..."

    When they said "Marxist revolution," I said, "Duck Soup was hilarious. Sign me up!"

    Seriously, someone sufficiently distant and mean-spirited needs to ask Ted if his father was a Marxist rebel or just really, really stupid.

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  81. Bob Dylan claims he used to care, but things have changed. And yet ...

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  82. That hurts.

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  83. shortstop9:08 AM

    Also the vaunted National Organization for Marriage conversational pits, where they're furiously assuring us that Obama only changed his tune on marriage equality because he's a big 'mo, and therefore part of a tiny, irrelevant demographic that no one has to care about, except that these few people have all the money and all the power and thus are successfully oppressing the 80 percent of America that is Christian.

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  84. I can't access Disqus at work anymore.

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  85. Halloween_Jack9:51 AM

    - The assertion that tramps like us were born to run relies on the dubious belief that genetics = destiny, which is highly problematic.
    - Life does not inevitably go on long after the thrill of living is gone.
    - Heaven may or may not be a place where nothing ever happens; it's by its very nature unverifiable.
    - WRT breaking the law, I do in fact know what it's like; I'd say more, but I didn't spend all that money getting the legal record expunged to blow it now.
    - My preference for big butts does not preclude my ability to generate falsehoods.


    /got a zillion of 'em

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  86. reallyaimai10:00 AM

    Ben ghazi--the tingle you feel lets you know it's working!

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  87. sharculese11:25 AM

    It has been noted by more astute writers than our friend Gavin that one of the two big things that makes Don look like a dick in the most recent episode of Mad Men, and I guess *SPOILERS*, drinking his new partner under the table just so he can humiliate him in front of everyone, mirrors the stunt he pulled on Roger way back in season 1's "Red in the Face," (also episode 7), except this time he gets called an asshole instead of coming across as the hero.


    Which plays to the central theme of late-era Mad Men that everyone (and especially Peggy, who has the honor of telling Don off) has spent the last eight years growing up, and Don, who didn't feel like he had to, increasingly feels isolated in a world that doesn't need him anymore.


    ...Oh wait, nevermind, I get what Gavin's so pissed about now.

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  88. I agree, and was going to write a comment to that effect. To the wingnuts Obama is everything and nothing at all: he is the weak leader and the Chicago thug. He is the angry black man and the unemotional Vulcan who doesn't care about real Americans. He is a brutal dictator who can't get anything done and gets walked over by other world leaders. He's a Muslim who attended a radical Christian church, a union-lloving socialist who lives a lavish lifestyle and showers his allies with money. He is literally every bad thing and its opposite on the other side of the spectrum of bad things.


    And apparently this happily married father of two and brutal commie dictator thug is also gay. The mind boggles.

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  89. He has those big shiny teeth. All the better to eat you with, my dear.

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  90. brandonrg12:43 PM

    I've gotta agree, it was pretty bad.

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  91. tim1172:15 PM

    It is not some "Obama is bad" thing. They believe he has a gay lover names Reggie Love.


    Some examples

    veritaseequitas • 15 days ago

    Does Shaq know he is about to get banged by the latest "I'm a homo, ain't I special basketball player?" I guess because Barry thinks that he and Jason Collins like homosexual sex so much, then everybody else must too.

    Sol Horowitz • 15 days ago
    Obama is craving a 12" black python (or two). Collins will be a regular WH guest, guaranteed. Reggie must feel jilted - and inadequate.

    Joe No-Gibs • 15 days ago
    Looks like a certain NBA center is about to get an invite to the whitehouse. Reggie better watch out theirs a new boy in town.

    That's one comment thread! http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/30/obama-gay-nba-player-can-still-bang-with-shaq/
    To be fair, they bring the racism too. For sheer descent into madness, read this comment section
    http://weaselzippers.us/2013/04/14/obama-shoots-hoops-with-reggie-love/

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  94. mrstilton4:33 PM

    OK (and with a tip o' the ten-gallon to Smut Clyde):

    It's three o'clock in the morning
    And the piano has been drinking all night long.
    I sit here with my whiskey,
    Trying to forget how Obama done me wrong.

    He sends jihadis to Benghazi
    And stops the Air Force plane before it flies;
    Reggie's in the Lincoln Bedroom,
    And the jukebox in the corner's full of lies.

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  95. KatWillow5:09 PM

    Its all based on Hillary-hate. If she'd been the Secretary (Head) of another agency, they'd be screaming about problems and scandals there. Imagine if she were Secretary of War. Heh.

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  96. KatWillow5:10 PM

    They think Normal people are "weirdos". "Losers."

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  98. I guess we'll just have to (sniff) do actual work at the office (sob). I may have to actually work for my pay (breaks down and cries).

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  99. Yes, I was wondering at what point they thought Don Draper's character was supposed to be admirable. The only difference between 1960 Don and 1968 Don I can see is that he used to be way better at his job back then.

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  100. It's not as fun now that Peggy has the authority to talk back with impunity.

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  101. redoubt10:59 PM

    The main character has become eccentric, distant, increasingly mean-spirited, and disoriented.


    And, as it is 1968, he is about to become the Republican Party nominee for President of the United States.

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  102. P Gustaf12:20 PM

    No, more like, I can't laugh at this Jodi Arias impression, because the premise is utterly unfunny.

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