Thursday, March 07, 2013

THE OTHER MAN BOOB.

John Hawkins, who delighted us last week with his butchitude, is at it again with another essay. This one's about how bitches get away with everything .

Among the prime sniglets:
Moreover, from a common sense perspective, if you could actually get by with paying women 76 cents on the dollar to do the same work that men do, wouldn’t all women firms dominate every field because of the reduced overhead?
And:
But, here’s a question: Has anyone ever considered passing a “violence against men” act?
At the very end:
Playing the blame game ultimately serves no one but the people who make their living as professional grievance mongers and so, it would be counterproductive for guys to claim that they’re victims of the “matriarchy.”
Come on come on you'resoclose come on...
But...
ACK
...it is time to recognize that men today have gender-related complaints that are every bit as serious and legitimate as women do, if not more so.
Science has debunked a lot of the myths about men, but Hawkins proves at least one of them: We sure do whine when we're sick.

195 comments:

  1. Haystack11:02 PM

    Has anyone ever considered passing a “violence against men” act?

    Politics is a process, John. First order of business is to get that White History Month legislation through.

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  2. Megalon11:07 PM

    Moreover, from a common sense perspective, if during slavery you could get by with paying black workers nothing at all then why didn't all black firms dominate every industry and occupation in The South?



    The logic is unassailable!

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  3. Did you know that “over 200 studies in the last 50 years have shown that men and women commit violence against one another at equal rates?... In fact, 1/3 of all murders that occur in couples are men murdered by women."

    Oh, John. You're as numerate as you are winsome.

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  4. Captain Ambiguity11:20 PM

    After ten seconds on Wikipedia, I find the Violence Against Women Act has a clause saying all its protections can be used to aid male victims of domestic violence.

    Hawkins is more successful at shaping legislation than he thinks.

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  5. Jeff_AEM11:22 PM

    Yeah I always wondered why white guys seem so absent from the overall historical narrative, except as occasional villains or victims. Be nice to find out that it isn't just that we're naturally lazy and a little slow.

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  6. Hawkins is far from blind to this injustice, asking plaintively "Where are the calls for 'men’s studies departments' to help rectify this injustice of our female dominated education system?" Strangely, the lack of a Men's Studies department at my undergrad alma mater (and does anything give away the academic/feminist conspiracy's game more than the phrase "alma mater"?) did not preclude me from writing a B.A. thesis on notable white man William Byers.

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  7. Halloween_Jack11:41 PM

    Now there's something even sadder than the so-called MRA "movement": someone who seems to make his living from the internet, and who in fact is probably the epitome of the MRA, who apparently has never heard of them.

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  8. Spaghetti Lee11:43 PM

    if you could actually get by with paying women 76 cents on the dollar to do the same work that men do, wouldn’t all women firms dominate every field because of the reduced overhead?

    Well, John, you're not the first to stumble upon this idea. The garment/textile industry in the 19th century did the same thing, because then, as now, a lot of the women didn't have the leverage to demand better wages and were easier to cheap out on. Worked well for the factory owners. The women, well, not so much: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire

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  9. This over-earnest, self-refuting piece of gibberish was embarrassingly bad. It was of a kind with every contrarian presentation from the troubled kid in freshman speech class meant to SHOCK its audience with its daring reversal of accepted morality - and then obfuscate its awful arguments with a raft of misleading facts and figures accosted by absurd logic.

    And it still gets a C+ despite all of this because the professor doesn't want the kid lighting the school on fire, and besides; he used spell check.

    This kind of smug anti-morality presented as keen analysis really pisses me off, but I take solace in the fact that after writing this, this guy is never, EVER going to get laid.

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  10. Leeds man12:01 AM

    "men today have gender-related complaints"


    Back to the groin paste so soon?

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  11. Ellis_Weiner12:08 AM

    Moreover, from a common sense perspective, if you could actually get by
    with paying women 76 cents on the dollar to do the same work that men
    do, wouldn’t all women firms dominate every field because of the reduced
    overhead?


    Even more moreover, shouldn't all employers hire women at 76 cents on the dollar, thus forcing men to agree to work at *75* cents on the dollar? This would trigger what I call a "race to the profitable," in which men and women would vie for jobs at ever-lower wages until one--or both--of the sexes would end up *actually paying the employer to work.*



    This would lower overhead even more, thus boosting profits and making everyone rich.

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  12. Ellis_Weiner12:11 AM

    "Men's Studies" are to be explained the way a parent answers his or her child who asks, "If there's Father's Day and Mother's Day, how come there isn't Kid's Day?" I.e., "EVERY day is kid's day."


    (Also, Roy, I assume "The Other Man Boob" is an oblique reference to "The Secret Policeman's Other Ball.")

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  13. I'd like to take a moment to step back from Hawkins' abrupt slide into MRA grotesquerie to make a general observation. PJ Lifestyle (where this was posted for some reason) has done something I thought was impossible and lowered the dignity of Pajamas Media. I realize that few of you ever click the links (and you shouldn't - the fact that my connection speed goes to shit every time I go over there makes me wonder just what they're at), so I'll describe what the article looks like. Hawkins is apparently following a current trend in blogging that holds that audiences will grow bored if a post contains nothing but dull ol' text. As a result, the text is "broken up" every two paragraphs by a meme-y image that looks like he pulled it off the first page of GIS. It's extremely trashy-looking, like everything that's wrong with the Internet put in a blender.


    The other thing I noticed is that none of those images are sourced at all. I'm guessing that PJM doesn't own the copyright to all of those images, and I doubt that the owners would be charmed by their inclusion, given that they're being held up to some pretty vicious mockery. Hell, Cracked sources their images - you "new media journalist" types can't manage more professionalism than them? Look, I could steal all the images I wanted for my blog, and no one would notice because no one reads it. Still, anything I use that's not mine is confirmed Creative Commons (because I believe in copyleft, dammit). I can't find a CC image that matches what I want? The post runs without it. You can't manage more professionalism than me, Random Self-Publishing Internet Asshole? Poor showing, guys.


    All right, back to the MRA mocking.

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  14. Budbear12:37 AM

    He couldn't get laid in a whorehouse with a pocket full of C-notes. Get laid? This guy is probably repulsed by himself when attempting to masturbate.

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  15. FlipYrWhig12:46 AM

    Again, groin paste.

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  16. PulletSurprise12:48 AM

    This one's a gem:

    But ... no man should ever be falsely accused of rape or of beating his wife either. Yet, women who make false accusations are usually given a slap on the wrist instead of getting the hard jail time that they deserve.

    Sticks and stones may break your bones, but words warrant 3-to-10.

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  17. AGoodQuestion1:38 AM

    Having gotten out of the boat, what I really love here are the photos that Hawkins uses to bolster his case. Misandry rears its ugly head in t-shirts! In stencils! In some lady holding up a note written in purple Sharpie! Don't you see how high the deck is stacked?

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  18. AGoodQuestion1:39 AM

    And it still gets a C+ despite all of this because the professor doesn't want the kid lighting the school on fire,
    Or worse, retaking the class.

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  19. marindenver1:47 AM

    Dayum, I thought that's what employers were all doing these days! Hawkins you have identified the new trend!

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  20. DocAmazing1:59 AM

    The first rule of Blight Club is: You do not talk about Blight Club.

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  21. marindenver2:07 AM

    ".it is time to recognize that men today have gender-related complaints
    that are every bit as serious and legitimate as women do, if not more
    so."

    Because it just so SUCKS to be a white male these days becuz sometimes bitchez fight back and WHERE'S MY SAMMITCHS DAMMIT!!

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  22. commie atheist3:08 AM

    And, as Megalon mentioned earlier, the southern states of the U.S. hit upon an even better formula, where they paid 0 cents on the dollar to their darker-skinned employees, and as a result their businesses were quite successful as a result, until the heavy hand of government regulation and superior arms put an end to it.

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  23. commie atheist3:12 AM

    You actually click on the links? You're a better man than I, Gunga Din.

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  24. The first rule of White Club is: You complain constantly in White Club. ("All those uppity...")

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  25. There are times I'm amazed they don't accidentally kill themselves tying their shoelaces in the morning. (Or win a Darwin Award some other way.)

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  26. If you could actually get by with paying women 76 cents on the dollar to do the same work that men do, wouldn’t all women firms dominate every field because of the reduced overhead?

    I remember this article when it appeared at Reason! Oh, the golden age of American business, when women and Southern blacks didn't have the right to vote, and before those pesky child labor laws! Women could not be oppressed, because my dogma says it could not be so; the free market would save them. Libertarian paradise!

    Also:

    http://crookedtimber.org/2012/07/01/let-it-bleed-libertarianism-and-the-workplace/

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  27. Methinks John Hawkins outdoes Ralph Wiggum when it comes to eating paste.

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  28. smut clyde5:26 AM

    are usually given a slap on the wrist


    Objection! Cliche-monger has forgotten the words "with a wet bus-ticket".

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  29. Snarll5:26 AM

    s/Ralph Wiggum/Jeff Godlstein/

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  30. aimai6:48 AM

    I'm in a hurry so I didn't check to see if one of you posted this rant from the amazing "Man Boobz" blog, a blog that checks up on and makes fun of MRA/PUA types. He says he thinks this is a troll spoof but I'm not sure its not just an example of Poe's Law:

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  31. aimai6:52 AM

    Oh, hell, I'll try again but it seems to be rendered in some top secret Man Boobz style which I can't copy and past and I think if I copied it out by hand I might lose my mind: No? OK lets try giving you the URL.http://manboobz.com/2013/03/07/another-question-are-mras-inherently-misogynistic/

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  32. aimai6:56 AM

    Batocchio's point was made this week on Eschaton when Atrios linked to an article in the Philly paper by a white guy complaining that he can't talk honestly about "race" by which he meant "tell black people how awful they are" which was instantly followed with a comment thread filled with ordinary white Philadelphians exclaiming about how oppressed they were by not being able to share their honest feelings with black people about how awful black people are.


    So the first rule of White Club is you complain endlessly about not being able to slag Black Club as much as you'd like, without any kind of rebuttal or uncomfortable silence or sneaking feeling of shame.

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  33. Derelict7:14 AM

    The worst thing about such serial sophistry is that there are thousands upon thousands of men who will take all of Hawkins's arguments to heart, and use them at every opportunity.


    In the land of the blind, the ignorant one with severe cataracts and presbyopia aspires to be king.

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  34. "...and so, you see now that dogs eating grass proves that 1/3 = 2/3."


    "Fascinating. Tell me again how the use of sheep's bladders can predict earthquakes."

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  35. Doghouse Riley7:35 AM

    it would be counterproductive for guys to claim that they’re victims of the “matriarchy.”


    Interesting how, in just a couple generations, "States' Rights" went from a desperate attempt to defend the indefensible, to a source of misplaced pride, and wound up as a template for constructing rhetorical arguments when you don't know what the words mean.

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  36. You, sirrah, deserve one of them No-Bell Prizes they keep giving stoopid libruhls.

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  37. aimai8:32 AM

    His body probably has a way of "shutting that thing down" when he approaches. I understand men are sensitive, that way.

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  38. BigHank538:57 AM

    You'd be a fan of eating paste too if you were John Hawkins. Can you imagine some of the things he's found in his food? Especially on his second visit to a resturant...

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  39. aimai8:59 AM

    The funniest thing about the phrase "If you could actually get by with paying women 76 cents on the dollar..." leads naturally to the question "well, what would stop you?" But he doesn't ask that question because BIG GUBMINT and Lily ledbetter are both things that he rejects out of hand, like a creationist rejects fossil traces as evidence of anything.

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  40. Playing the blame game ultimately serves no one but the people who make
    their living as professional grievance mongers and so, it would be
    counterproductive for guys to claim that they’re victims of the
    “matriarchy.” But, it is time to recognize that men today have
    gender-related complaints that are every bit as serious and legitimate
    as women do, if not more so.


    "Playing the blame game ultimately serves no one but the people who make their living as professional grievance mongers and so, please let me in on that sweet, sweet grievancemonging action. Gimme my grievance cash now!"

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  41. DBake9:02 AM

    So it subjects men to the humiliation of having to ask for protection under a law designed to protect women? The Matriarchy is cruel.

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  42. Tiny Tyrant9:16 AM

    Bill Burr's stand-up act uses a lot of this stuff, you know, the double standards in play when males get beat up by females, the difference is Burr has the right combination of it being funny and it's an act.

    this Hawkins fella only has the 'act' component mastered. professional (whiny) troll is only unintentionally funny.

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  43. El Manquécito9:21 AM

    Shhhh about the roin-gay aste-pay or Dr. Kenneth will get excited.

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  44. redoubt9:47 AM

    The first rule of White Club is (really): You make the rules for the other colors, but you don't tell them what they are. So when they disobey you can punish them.

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  45. If by "excited" you mean "vomiting in her mouth a little," then guilty as charged.

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  46. glennisw10:09 AM

    And if we abolish child worker laws, KIDS will dominate all fields! Just like Duggie Howser!

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  47. alicureaders, I bring you the gift of a quote:


    "Along similar lines, if a woman takes three months off to be with her child after she has a baby, while a man whose wife has a child just takes a week-end, isn’t he more dedicated to his job and thus, more worthy of a promotion?"


    Guh.

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  48. Budbear10:12 AM

    So, that whole 'auto-eroticism' thing is about cars?

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  49. I'm sure I'm going to regret asking for this, but...link?

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  51. zencomix10:16 AM

    Regarding the serial sophistry, I seem to remember reading something quite similar to his post 6 years or so ago. And by "quite similiar", I'm really wondering if he hasn't copy and pasted parts of it.

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  52. Logic falls in and dies.

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  53. sharculese10:24 AM

    There is an extremely stupid New Thing called "masculine studies" (to signify it's totes different from women's studies because girls are gross) that as far as I can tell is mostly Great Man historical narratives and whining about how men can't be men unless they're allowed to rape.

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  54. http://www.phillymag.com/articles/white-philly/

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  55. sharculese10:31 AM

    Maybe we should make paternity leave a thing, or something.

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  56. DocAmazing10:36 AM

    Oh, come on. The solution to a benefit being unequally distributed is to eliminate the benefit. Everyone knows that!

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  57. sharculese10:55 AM

    A lot of these are tripping my parody alarm, but this one in particular:





    sounds like an absurd rendering of the bizarrely common mra origin story about having been abused by an ultra-feminist mother/sister who hated him for being a man


    also the fixation on k-mart

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  58. Interrobang10:57 AM

    Nothing currently stops them, as long as employees are discouraged or forbidden from talking about their salaries with each other, which Dim Bulb over there seems not to get. I mean, it's pretty easy to pay people different amounts for the same work if there's slim to no chance the employees in question will ever find out about it, and as long as employers consider making sure their employees don't find out about it is a matter of "reducing liability."

    Imperfect information, how the fuck does it work?

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  59. shortstop11:01 AM

    Or about autoclaving the dildo and wetsuit while wearing a look of deep shame and self-hatred.

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  60. Halloween_Jack11:03 AM

    I'd be devastated if it were pure parody; this "feminist succubi" thing is worth looking into.

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  61. shortstop11:06 AM

    Well, if you count women noting gender inequality as verbal violence against men, you can come up with the numbers to make this thing even across the board.

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  62. redoubt11:28 AM

    Conjunction Junction, what's your function
    In an autoclave with two wetsuits and a dildo. . .

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  63. Uncle Kvetch11:44 AM

    A nice response to that Philly Mag article:

    http://www.phawker.com/2013/03/05/deeney-let-me-tell-you-about-being-white-in-philly/

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  64. sharculese12:04 PM

    Making the layout of PJ Lifestyle look more hideous really shouldn't be a thing that is possible.

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  65. RogerAiles12:07 PM

    Hawky the Pinhead knows all about reduced overhead.


    But he's right about one thing -- having a small dick is a gender-related complaint.

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  66. Jay B.12:08 PM

    The Matriarchy sounds too British. I prefer The Gynocracy. Please change it to that. Thank you. -- Men

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  67. In pile of poop.

    Seriously. Here's some things I take away from that quote:

    1.) Maybe the guy's a shitty father, who doesn't care about bonding with his child.
    2.) Maybe--JUST MAYBE--the mother took those weeks off to familiarize herself with breast or bottle feeding and to bond with her fuckin' NEWBORN.
    3.) John Hawkins is a cretinous piece of shit who should have groin paste rubbed all over his face.

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  68. shortstop12:17 PM

    Two wetsuits, a dildo and a shame-stricken Republican walk into an autoclave...

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  69. Jay B.12:31 PM

    Similarly, it's time to recognize that whites today have race-related complains that are every bit as serious and legitimate as blacks do, if not more so. I mean everyone knows that the President is a black now, right?

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  70. And guess where he got the link? Steve Sailor. Noted White Supremacist. I'd like to see fifteen fucking minutes when that guy fell silent on race and racism.

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  71. Wait, if Dr. KennethNoisewater isn't female this result is even more squick inducing than groin paste.

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  72. Well: maybe Lost Girl is a documentary. Ever think about that?

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  73. XeckyGilchrist12:43 PM

    I'm pretty sure he's mining some mimeographed grievance rag from the 1950s.

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  74. Fats Durston12:50 PM

    And why aren't there men's rape crisis centers, huh?! And Mr. America pageants?! And Dudes, Infants, and Children food and nutrition service (DIC)?! And gentlemen's night at clubs!? And mansieres?! I demand that my man-boobs be supported! I demand manfirmative action by the government to redress these inequities!

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  75. BigHank5312:54 PM

    John Hawkins is a cretinous piece of shit who should have groin paste rubbed all over his face.


    Have you seen a picture of Mr. Hawkins? It'd be an improvement.

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  76. sharculese12:54 PM

    And gentlemen's night at clubs!?

    There is actually an MRA who has made this his signature issue. He goes all over the country filing discrimination suits against clubs that have ladies' nights.

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  77. KatWillow12:58 PM

    . . . and the corporations such as Walmart are beginning to notice that nobody has any money to buy their so very cheap stuff! "Profits are down, we must lower wages and lay-off employees!"

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  78. KatWillow12:58 PM

    I'd be happy to get a Cow-bell prize, myself.

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  79. KatWillow1:01 PM

    I've tried a few times, but conservative sites crash my computer.

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  80. aimai1:12 PM

    Leeds man • 13 hours ago"men today have gender-related complaints"



    Isn't that cure for that going transgender? Or having it looked at by a doctor?

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  81. "If"? Sweet noms de plume in a can, aimai, vacuumslayer even kept an avatar with pink bunny ears. Yes, she inexplicably switched her "handle" to refer to Brian Fantana's right testicle. Yes, she seems unhealthily obsessed with groin paste. Yes, she's had adventures at craft fairs about which I would gladly hear many more details. Regardless, ... I lost my train of thought. Anyway, she's previously posted cute baby pictures, so there!

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  82. Halloween_Jack1:16 PM

    The Gynocracy sounds as if it will be rule by gynoids, which suits me just fine. Thank you. -- Skynet

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  83. Thunderdome.

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  84. Ain't that America.

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  85. Aimai2:07 PM

    Oh! Of course it's vacuumslayer aka the mother of the worlds cutest baby (current title holder). Isn't this just another sign of the oppressive power of the matriarchy? Would John Hawkins ever publish under a woman's name--like George sand?

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  86. What about a female secretary and a male coal miner with the same skill level? Even if their education and level of ability is the same,
    shouldn’t the one doing the dirty, dangerous, unpleasant job make more
    money?

    Suggesting that the guys who do all the actual physical labor are putting in more work than the people pushing around pieces of paper in the office? You're getting awfully close to slandering our peerless Job Creators there, Hawkins. Tread carefully.

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  87. ADHDJ2:35 PM

    Legalize Potlatch!

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  88. montag22:56 PM

    " I demand that my man-boobs be supported!"


    The brassiere industry is both bemused and financially inquisitive regarding your demand.

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  89. Jimcima3:18 PM

    Groin paste? I do not know what this is.


    Please don't tell me.

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  90. JennOfArk3:19 PM

    "...Dudes, Infants, and Children food and nutrition service (DIC)..."


    Well-played.

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  91. Tudor Jennings3:21 PM

    Speaking as "definitely a potential rapist" *rolls eyes*

    Sorry, but the nutjob wing of the feminist movement now does more damage than good, since it allows silly twunts like John Hawkins to thrive.
    I find myself agreeing with half the stuff he's saying. I would say "sorry", but it's the feminist-extremists who should be apologising to us here.

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  92. Leeds man3:23 PM

    Sounds like something else to me.

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  93. Can you name one of these 'feminist-extremists'? Bonus points if they've been relevant in the last 10 years, "Andrea Dworkin" is an instant disqualifier.

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  94. Tudor Jennings3:25 PM

    Cruel, but will read you a bedtime story and tuck you into bed afterwards.

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  95. Leeds man3:26 PM

    Yeah, I'm sticking around for this. Should be fun.

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  96. Tudor Jennings3:27 PM

    Wait, isn't giving consent to rape counterintuitive or ironic or something?

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  97. Don't hold your fucking breath.


    No, on second thought, do.

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  98. Tudor Jennings3:28 PM

    How do you keep an idiot in suspense? :)

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  99. Yeah, it's better you don't know. (But if you must know it pertains to an alicublog entry from a couple days ago.)

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  100. Too easy. Amanda Marcotte, Jessica Valenti and Rebecca Watson regularly give "real men" seriously hurt fee-fees, forcing them to agree with complete whiny dipsticks like Hawkins.

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  101. LOL! I feel bad about the confusion; I thought everyone knew it was I, vacuumslayer. (I see a lot of these folks on a couple of other blogs and announced and my name change there.)


    I didn't feel oppressed by John Hawkins so much as I just felt like a change.

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  102. Leeds man3:34 PM

    Say something profoundly stupid 90 minutes before the idiot's drinky time begins, and wait 90 minutes.

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  103. as the wise man said, "we need more cowbell."

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  104. Sweet noms de plume in a can, aimai, George Sand didn't publish under a woman's name. You're thinking of Victor/Victoria.

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  105. mds, I feel it only fair to tell you that I made up that thing about the crafts fair. The only thing I got there was an accidental butt brush by an old lady selling apple-head dolls*




    *Also not true.

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  106. Leeds man3:48 PM

    Oh, that's right. I was a feminist until Watson said "come on, guys", and now I am outraged by Germaine Greer.

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  107. wileywitch3:48 PM

    It's avoiding prosecution on a technicality.

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  108. wileywitch3:50 PM

    If you count the word "no" as verbal abuse your work is done.

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  109. Tudor Jennings3:53 PM

    I'm glad you remembered the comma.

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  110. wileywitch3:56 PM

    Same as it ever was.


    As moral, religious and law-abiding citizens, we feel that we are unprejudiced and undiscriminating in our wish to keep our community a closed community.

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  111. Oh, yeah? May I present ... WARMONGER?

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  112. montag23:59 PM

    Hawkins is greatly distorting "the exception proves the rule" theme, is he not? In truth, I've only read of a single instance of domestic violence against men in the last several decades, and that, oddly enough, in the Air Force Reserve magazine, involving a small, slight radar operator and his quite large, somewhat domineering and none-too-bright wife. He had gotten excellent performance reviews for nine years, until he returned from four months' TDY on the DEW Line. Suddenly, he was inattentive, found asleep at his post, was often abstracted and vacant, and was in danger of being reprimanded officially.



    His commander was astute enough to assign an investigator to the case before instituting disciplinary action. The investigator found that the fellow's wife had been talking to her friends in her husband's absence, and many of those conversations revolved around some myths about the sexual practices of "Eskimo" women. So, she became fixated on her husband's presumed infidelities, and when he got home, she confronted him with the irrefutable proof provided by her gossipy friends. Of course, he was completely mystified and denied any such activities.



    She didn't believe him. So, she intended to get the truth out of him. Every time he fell asleep, she whacked him on the head with an iron skillet. After the first couple of times this happened, he began, so to speak, to try to sleep with one eye open, a practice that led, inevitably, to a lack of attention on a job that demanded a high degree of alertness. Aggravating the situation, of course, was that he was not inclined, out of male pride, to admit that his wife was, intermittently, trying to turn his head into guacamole.


    The point of the story was that officials shouldn't make the assumption that domestic violence only occurs one way, not that female against male violence was some widespread, yet unreported, problem of gigantic dimensions, precisely the approach that Hawkins seems to take here. Exceptions are exactly that--exceptions.



    When--and if--Hawkins ever comes to the realization that neither whiteness nor male assholery are either unique or deserving of special recognition, he'll be well on the way to taking the first step on the path to rejoining the human race, but, I have the feeling that step will be long in coming. If one's entire reason for being is lamenting that the gains in equality of others represents an a priori diminishment of one's own, then one doesn't even begin to understand the concept of rights, let alone the basics of daily living.

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  113. wileywitch4:01 PM

    Obviously with all the big talk about throwing undocumented workers out of the country and eternally blocking them from entrance, the bigots are still protecting the employers' prerogative to pay less than minimum wage.

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  114. The only thing I got there was an accidental butt brush by an old lady selling apple-head dolls*

    HOT.

    *Also not true.


    Eh, it still beats 1-900 numbers.

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  115. wileywitch4:05 PM

    No reason to feel bad about it. I'm mistaken for a man though I use a picture of me as an avatar. I console myself with the fact that that only happens online and over the phone.

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  116. wileywitch4:06 PM

    Your little biped has a highly developed sense of humor.

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  117. JennOfArk4:06 PM

    ..it is time to recognize that men today have gender-related complaints that are every bit as serious and legitimate as women do, if not more so.

    Brilliantly shortered by TBogg...before Hawkins even wrote it!

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  118. Well, shit. The Disqus dashboard allows one to delete a comment, where by "delete" they naturally mean "Leave the comment; take the cannoli remove one's name from it." Does The Edroso have the power to wipe comments from threads as if they had never existed? Because that was the larger version of that picture rather than the smaller one. I blame feminists.

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  119. wileywitch4:10 PM

    hooking up neoprene with pseudo-phallic objects

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  120. sharculese4:13 PM

    Uh 'consent' is a made up word that feminists use to throw men in jail because it's funny to them or something.

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  121. sharculese4:17 PM

    For these dudes, grievance is totally a lifestyle.

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  122. sharculese4:18 PM

    Ahaha you're dumb person whiny about a made up thing it's funny to me.

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  123. wileywitch4:23 PM

    As a feminist, I have an apology for you, Mr. Tudor Jennings; it's made of a razor studded hunk of titanium that you can shove up your ass.

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  124. sharculese4:24 PM

    Jesus Christ, have these dudes never heard of an old sock?

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  125. sharculese4:26 PM

    Absent a picture of John Hawkins feet (nobody provide this, please) I am going to assume his shoes involve velcro.

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  126. wileywitch4:29 PM

    Yeah, no one was preventing the guy from leaving his wife, filing assault charges, and filing a restraining order. In fact, no one was stopping him from hitting back in self-defense or holding her down until the police or MPs showed up. There is no formidable or consequential institution denying men equal protection under the law. If they had children, he could easily have gotten custody.

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  127. wileywitch4:31 PM

    Present company excluded, the menz not only whine when they're sick, when a woman gets sick, the menz get sicker; because somehow her taking care of him as if he were a helpless child doesn't emasculate him, but him taking care of her when she's sick does.

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  128. OK, Warmonger is pretty cute.

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  129. Dude. Don't be glib. Rebecca Watson said something about not hitting on women in elevators, which is exactly like Rebecca Watson cutting the penises off every man in the skeptic community.

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  130. If by "developed a sense of humor" you mean "turned into a big goofball," then yes.

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  131. Ellis_Weiner4:46 PM

    Okay, that's horrible--with Col. Mustard. With Miss Scarlet, though, it has its appeal.

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  132. sharculese4:49 PM

    There are male victims of domestic violence and they face their own problems, like no one believing them because they got beat up by a girl, but the idea that the numbers are anywhere near proportional is horseshit

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  133. Tudor Jennings5:04 PM

    I think it's when she turns out to be a ladyboy.


    Dunno what they're complaining about - you usually have to pay extra for that sort of stuff.

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  134. Tudor Jennings5:11 PM

    Okay, Google Translate says:

    "Ah ha ha! You're a dumb person whining about a made-up thing. That's funny to me."

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  135. Tudor Jennings5:12 PM

    Ooh, kinky! But not on the first date. I have my standards.

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  136. Tudor Jennings5:13 PM

    Again, in my experience you have to pay extra to be used as a footstool.

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  137. sharculese5:15 PM

    In case anyone wants the opaque response explained, that was the original version of the comment that I replaced because I liked what I said the second time better. Tudor Jennings appears to think this is some sort of gotcha because i don't know why but it almost certainly has to do with imaginary feminists.

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  138. Tudor Jennings5:22 PM

    Wow, there are some sensitive people on this blog today. I blame all these imaginary feminists.

    Actually, I liked your comment, in a William Burroughs cut-up type way. If you really took that much offence at my tongue-in-cheeky post, then I apologise.

    And to save everyone else the time, from the imaginary groupthinkme to the actualme "Yeah we don't think you're funny today. Go away."

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  139. Zencomix5:22 PM

    DC Cobra, Auto Erotics!

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  140. AGoodQuestion5:25 PM

    Po-TAY-to, po-TAH-to.

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  141. Their radfem radiation gave him cancer of the manhood?

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  142. AGoodQuestion5:33 PM

    And mansieres?!


    Those got held up - so to speak - when one of the developers wanted to call it "the Bro."

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  143. More or less, dude.

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  144. AGoodQuestion5:36 PM

    I've heard of that guy. He doesn't really have a popular following. Most men in the clubs would rather have more women around that half-price drinks.

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  145. AGoodQuestion5:49 PM

    The homeowner who complains about the blahs stealing her grill and pumpkins, but who has never actually seen any of the culprits, is especially precious. I wasn't aware Victor Davis Hanson even had a daughter.

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  146. Sgaile-beairt6:31 PM

    shorter, man ly hemen wolverine wannabes dont know t he first fucking thing about camping, think everyone who goes hiking gets crotch rot from no showers, thinks this is a good advtsment for their WOLVERINES plans....


    yeah it makes that much sense!!

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  147. Another Kiwi6:37 PM

    I would like to frolic in the autumn mist with all of these comments.

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  148. MatthewMikell7:02 PM

    Your computer has no alimentary canal, so that's its way of puking.

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  149. I'm sure he's busy compiling the list as we speak.

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  150. I was genuinely interested in hearing the answer, too. More's the pity.

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  151. MatthewMikell7:12 PM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoEBWrnZJrk

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  152. I used to think when the machines became sentient they would rise up and destroy us all, but apparently they're just going to save us from ourselves.

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  153. Oh ladieeeeeeeeez, John Hawkins has some dating advice for you. http://pjmedia.com/lifestyle/2012/03/14/7-mistakes-women-make-with-men/

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  154. I can picture velcro straps, and accidental strangulation. There are many ways to win a Darwin, and I have confidence in Hawkins!

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  155. XeckyGilchrist8:02 PM

    Yeah, that whole incident reminded me why I've never been much interested in joining groups of skeptics, even though I strictly speaking qualify as one. I can find enough jerks around without having to cringe because they agree with me about some stuff.

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  156. Another Kiwi8:42 PM

    Aren't there so-called "Assault Laws" covering violence on the menz? So wouldn't those apply? Actually those should apply to women too so VAW must mean that there's a special problem...what could it be???

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  157. AGoodQuestion10:31 PM

    The "load more comments" icon isn't appearing at the bottom of the page. Is Disqus gearing up to kill us all?

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  158. 4) MAYBE the mother needs time to physically recover from passing something the size of a bowling ball through her hoo-hah.

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  160. She's like the unholy love child of Bob Owens and Victor Davis Hanson.

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  165. chuckling6:57 AM

    I'm guessing that by "feminists" they mean "successful women." Prominent examples would include Oprah, Whoopi Goldberg, Beyonce, women named Rice, and of course Michelle Obama.

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  166. Duncan11:29 AM

    Actually, that is not what masculinity studies does, but carry on. Keep up, especially, that "as far as I can tell" -- you may be able to get a slot on PJ Media.

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  167. Duncan11:34 AM

    And by the same writer:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/03/against-the-conversation-on-race/273735/

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  168. DocAmazing12:32 PM

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    Sometimes Disqus is there and sometimes not. Are you feeling lucky, punk?

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  172. JennOfArk3:52 PM

    This is why I refer to it as Diqsucs.

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  173. aimai6:31 PM

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  174. aimai6:33 PM

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  177. aimai7:57 PM

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  178. MyPetGloat9:32 PM

    Poor Johnny. Women have obviously ruined his life and when I say women, I mean all women. Every last goddamned one. Even me. And I have never met John. But I know I have ruined his life. Somehow.

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  179. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard7:50 AM

    But, here’s a question: Has anyone ever considered passing a “violence against men” act?

    There are plenty of "violence against men" acts on the books. I mean, I can't just stab some jerkass who pisses me off. Was Hawkins so keen on a "violence against men act" when George Zimmerman shot Treyvon Martin?

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  180. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard7:52 AM

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