Wednesday, January 16, 2013


I see Obama proposed some weak-ass gun rules, including executive orders such as "Starting a national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign," "Issuing a presidential memorandum to require federal law enforcement to trace guns recovered in criminal investigations," and (my favorite) "Nominating an A.T.F. director."

This may or may not save any lives, but it has definitely achieved this:

Already the talk radio guys are over the top (Mark Levin: "UnAmerican," "fascistic"; Rush Limbaugh: "With Kids as Human Shields, Obama Will Unveil Left's Long-Held Plan to Grab Guns"). It's nothing new -- they've been calling Obama Hitler for years. But the current controversy is built, one might say, to exacerbate the tendency. Guys like Limbaugh and Levin used to set their own level of crazy -- now they're basically trying to outdo Alex Jones, and Jones isn't making it easy for them. It won't be long before they're all singing La Marseillaise and declaring each other freedom fighters.

When the dust settles and very little is accomplished, people will remember that Obama tried to Do Something, and his loyal opposition was a bunch of nuts yelling about the Third Reich. 

I do get tired of nothing ever getting much better, but at least it's fun to watch Obama troll.

UPDATE. In comments, Michael points us to this week's, and possibly this year's, golden nutcake award winner: Bob Owens, formerly known as Confederate Yankee, bragging about how easy it would be for him and his buddies to take out a power station:
Were an angry group of disenfranchised citizens to target in a strategic manner the substations leading to a city or geographic area—say, Albany, for example—they could put the area in the dark for as long as it took to bring the substations back online. Were they committed enough, and spread their attacks out over a wide enough area, perhaps mixing in a few tens of dozens of the residential transformers found every few hundred yards along city streets, they could overwhelm the utility companies ability to repair the damage being caused or law enforcement’s ability to stop them...

How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted area? Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being. 
Progressives seeking to undermine the Constitution seem to think they hold all the cards. I would warn them that they are not remotely prepared for what will happen if they attempt to cross Constitutional boundaries and natural rights. 
It could be a cold, dark winter. 
Tread carefully.
Owens recently appeared in a PJTV video with Ole Perfesser Glenn Reynolds ("Are lawful Americans preparing for civil war? Bob Owens of thinks so. Hear why as Glenn Reynolds discusses the Second Amendment on this InstaVision"). Reynolds either hasn't noticed what a crackpot the guy is or has been watching too many episodes of Doomsday Preppers and come to believe all the white people who failed to materialize for Romney are out there waiting for him and Owens to sound the final trump. Shine on, you crazy conservative comeback!


  1. John E. Williams10:00 PM

    Remember ten years ago, when to call bullshit on the big bad Saddam threat meant you were un-American and a treasonous traitor who didn't care about 9/11? Remember? Remember?

    The loons....

  2. Michael10:14 PM

    Perhaps you remember The Artist Formerly Known As Confederate Yankee. He now blogs under his nom de bubba, Bob Owens. He has a fascinating post up in which he details specific ways that Gun-Totin' Freedom Fighters can use terrorist tactics to disrupt our infrastructure in the coming Civil War II which has been ignited by Obama's apparently-secret sworn oath to take guns away from everyone. If I remember correctly, this was precisely the kind of thing that such yahoos were telling us the Moozlims were going to do to us. Now the same bunch of I-really-wanted-to-go-to-Iraq-but-I-have-a-bum-knee preadolescents are plotting how to do it to us themselves.

    If we see something, we're supposed to say something, if I'm remembering correctly.

    You really, truly should drop by and read this thread. It's simultaneously hilarious and chilling:

  3. jesus CHRIST

  4. Tehanu10:28 PM

    It won't be La Marseillaise; it'll be Die Wacht am Rhein. Otherwise you are spot on, as usual.

  5. I'm not getting out of the boat. But I have, for reasons I can't fathom, been watching a horrible TV show called Justified and I can assure you that there are a whole lot of Americans--presumably the other 99.9 percent of people who are not me watching this show--who really haven't got the faintest idea what guns do or how they function. The number ofpeople who get shot on this show on a quick draw from the hero marshall? Its like two per show. The ones who survive, for reasons dictated by the plot, gut shot but chattering happilly about their personal feelings? Also two or three per show. I can well believe that Bob Owens, a man who was terrorized and reduced to begging by the wind tumbling over his barbecue, thinks that he is at all well positioned to lead a revolution. These people have the brain wattage of a dead nematode. They couldn't be farther from grasping how scary war is and how "the real people die" than if they were stuffed animals.

  6. Spaghetti Lee10:34 PM

    Commentarius de Prognosticis

    Ooh, I bet this guy knows some big words!

  7. montag210:36 PM

    It's a wonderful myth, that the threat that gun owners represent keeps the government from behaving tyrannically. Oddly, every time some group threatens the status quo, the military and/or the police gets called in and the group is decimated.

    Shay's Rebellion? Check.

    Whiskey Rebellion? Check.

    Ludlow Strikers? Check.

    The Wobblies? Check.

    Black Panthers? Check.

    Ruby Ridge? Check.

    Waco? Check and mate.

    It's the height of self-deception for these delusional, deranged minds to
    think that their guns make one whit of difference at all. Beyond that,
    they're seemingly oblivious to the extent that they willingly
    participated in the erosion of all their other rights over the last few
    decades in furtherance of the one right they demand. The guy in Ohio
    who blabbed about killing people didn't lose his concealed carry license
    because the government came to his house and broke down his door
    because they were a-comin' fer his guns. The state was monitoring
    social media and there he was, shooting off his mouth.

    They haven't learned the one lesson important for the last hundred years. War--and its weapons--always end up coming home. Drones, anyone? Cyberwar? Massive surveillance? Infiltration? Geez, you'd think these guys would at least be paying attention to what's happening with Muslims wrt setting them up for prosecution....

  8. yes, this comment.

  9. Deggjr10:38 PM

    It's almost as if they don't care about breaking Godwin's Law. (Is that a law or a regulation? They don't put in jail for breaking a resolution.)

  10. wileywitch10:39 PM

    Why weren't they planning these patriotic terrorist attacks on our nation during the Bush Administration? After the Patriot Act was passed? Seemed they had "nothing to hide" then. The fact that they are openly discussing ways to commit terrorist acts to do the most damage with the least effort, tells me that it's safe to say they are treasonous bastards with some serious psychological issues.

  11. Deggjr10:39 PM

    you in jail

  12. Robert M.10:53 PM

    Where do I start the petition to have argumentam ad Goldberg made an official logical fallacy? I assume Wikipedia is involved somehow.

    Because it would be nice to have a shorthand to ridicule the argument that goes "Hitler was evil; Hitler was a [vegetarian/gun control advocate/Austrian/frustrated artist]; therefore all [vegetarians/gun control advocates/Austrians/frustrated artists] are evil, ipso farto. I mean facto."

  13. montag210:59 PM

    Gotta be a Ben Shapiro sockpuppet....

  14. edroso11:02 PM

    I still remember "Let the bastards freeze in the dark." These are such comforting fantasies that the poor schnooks don't realize having them come true would be their worst nightmare.

  15. " - for reasons I can't fathom - "

    Aimai, a lady friend of my acquaintance can give you two reasons: Timothy. Olyphant.

  16. Spaghetti Lee11:09 PM

    they could overwhelm the utility companies ability to repair the damage being caused or law enforcement’s ability to stop them...

    The Tea Party: It's not terrorism when we do it. These are the same people who wanted to see OWS beaten bloody for sitting in public parks and waving signs.

  17. Michael11:18 PM

    Remember: they're certain that the military is going to have their backs--to "uphold its oath to defend the Constitution" is how it is generally phrased.

  18. Michael11:21 PM

    Ah, yes. The barbecue bleg. Good times.

  19. montag211:23 PM

    Of course... all the while taking no notice for which branch of government the military works--and it ain't the Tea Party Caucus in Congress....

  20. Derelict11:27 PM

    I'll stand my my stock observation that people like Owens love America, but manage to hate the government of the United States as well as more than half of the people who live here.

  21. Haystack11:28 PM

    Because the first job of a well-regulated militia is foment uprising and commit terrorists acts against a duly-elected government proposing legislation intended to keep schoolchildren safe.

  22. I don't suppose Confederate Wankee has quite figured out what happens after the power goes out. Because if his recruits are from the area (given that they're likely to want to do this with as little travel as possible), they then go home to cold, dark houses and wait for the economy to collapse.

    If they're from out of state, well, congratulations! You've just knocked out power to all the traffic lights, airports, and roadside gas stations. How do you plan to get back to South Carolina?

  23. Also, I'm intrigued by Deb's Garden Shop. Is OBAMA = HITLER = STALIN a "gem from MOM"?

  24. marindenver11:46 PM

    My thoughts exactly. And are they aware that the utility companies have great big trucks that they send out to repair things pretty darn quickly and can run over morans trying to interfere with them?

  25. sharculese11:47 PM

    Justified earns it's right to exist if for no other reason than that episode where Robert Picardo is an expert on Hitler art.

  26. BigHank5311:51 PM

    I also like his plan to keep wandering about disabling the power grid. Guess what, smarty pants? After about a week, word will get around, and all the local folks who are sitting around with nothing better to do since there's no power will decide to keep an eye on the local substation or the pole pig outside their house. And when you show up, o you clever insurgent you, without a ConEd truck or a hardhat, they'll shoot your ass fucking dead from the comfort of their living room. Because they're tired of freezing their asses off.

    Christ, why am I even trying to explain this? The odds that Mr. Owens would ever pry his ass off his comfortable couch in North Carolina are worse than the odds of PowerBall: I'll win eighty million dollars before he shoots off anything more dangerous than his mouth.

  27. sharculese11:51 PM

    Sorry no. I'm pretty sure a guy was president then and I have vague memories of that happening, but... I can't quite place his name and it's totally possible he never really existed and we moved right from the Clenis to the Kenyan Usurper.

  28. Reynolds either hasn't noticed what a crackpot the guy is or has been watching too many episodes of Doomsday Preppers and come to believe all the white people who failed to materialize for Romney are out there waiting for him and Owens to sound the final trump.

    Glenn fucking Reynolds exemplifies the utter banality of evil, not to mention its mediocrity. He is practically its avatar. He just casually whistles and heh-indeedys his way from suggesting liberals are traitors to America for not supporting the government line on Iraq and need to be dealt with harshly - to happily endorsing the overthrow of the government and fighting liberals because liberals. Without seeing any contradiction or missing a beat. Did I mention liberals?

    Here's a guy who was dead wrong about every single fucking thing for the past twelve years - from the mightiest prognostication to the tiniest detail - and he hasn't the tiniest bit of shame about it. He was less grieved by the deaths and suffering of millions of Iraqis and thousands of American soldiers than he was when Jazz was ripped in half by Megatron in the first Transformers movie. What kind of human being is this that has no conscience or shame, if it's a human being at all? It's like his consciousness has already been transferred into that robot and we got the passive-aggressive dregs of whatever didn't make it. 

    If insurrection ever comes to this country it will be wrapped in a shitty law degree, carrying a grudge, and doing embarrassingly bad videos for a wingnut welfare propaganda outlet that couldn't make it in the free market. Oh, and it will be mealy-mouthed.

  29. marindenver11:53 PM

    And, eleventy!!, he's using children as a human shield!!!! Let the impeachment proceedings begin!!

  30. sharculese11:57 PM

    I don't suppose Confederate Wankee has quite figured out what happens after the power goes out.

    Tonight there'll be clouds?

  31. First they launched a "national safe and responsible gun ownership campaign" - and I did nothing.

  32. BigHank5312:00 AM

    Shame requires self-awareness, you know.

  33. It's often (though not always, rhetoric is slippery) the undistributed middle fallacy:

    Which is ironic, given how well Jonah's middle is distributed.

  34. BigHank5312:12 AM

    Well, you know, Wayne LaPierre has been teasing them with that possible confrontation with "gun grabbers" for twenty-something years. It's not really a surprise that some of them are shooting a premature load in their pants after this much dry-humping. I mean shit, guys, hang on: the law has to actually exist before you can be oppressed by it.

  35. billmon posted this on twitter:

    New WND poll: Only 18% would ever consider armed revolt against US gov: This is reported as BAD news, "tyranny" risk.

    It'll be a very small rebellion. But Wingnuts are used to overcompensating.

  36. Fats Durston12:29 AM

    What do you mean, "weak-ass"? How can you not see Obama=Hitler?

    Proposed Reichstag Actions

    Requiring criminal background checks for all gun sales to Jews, including those by private sellers that currently are exempt.

    Banning the possession of armor-piercing bullets by anyone other than members of the Landwehr und Sturmabteilung.

    Providing financing to expand mental health programs fur die Jugend

    Executive actions

    Directing the Reichsminister of the Interior to review categories of
    individuals prohibited from having a gun to make sure dangerous people
    are not slipping through the cracks.

    Publishing a letter from the A.T.F. to federally licensed gun
    dealers and those of kindred blood providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers.

    Providing law enforcement authorities, first responders and school officials with proper training for armed attacks situations like when the Poles invade.

    Finalizing regulations clarifying essential health benefits and parity requirements within insurance exchanges, to comply with the Law for the Protection of American Blood and American Honor.

    Committing to finalizing mental health parity regulations, and surgically sterilizing those who are congenitally feeble-minded.

    The Constitution of the American Reich is suspended until further notice.

  37. Spaghetti Lee12:32 AM

    That's a bigger number than I'd like to see, but I assume the numbers start dropping once you start replacing "consider" with "agree to", "instigate", "continue", and finally "survive".

  38. synykyl12:35 AM

    ... How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the
    dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted
    area? Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever
    firing a bullet at another human being. ...
    Taking out the power grid is not as easy as Owens thinks. Besides, if you really wants to fuck up the economy, electing Republicans is much more effective.

  39. Spaghetti Lee2:31 AM

    But...Red Dawn!

  40. smut clyde3:00 AM

    So "insurgents" have shifted from Doubleplus Bad to Doubleplus Good? OK.

  41. smut clyde3:02 AM

    I was intrigued to see that at Deb's Garden Shop, "All three" and "both" are interchangeable.

  42. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:02 AM

    In comments, Michael points us to this week's, and possibly this year's, golden nutcake award winner: Bob Owens, formerly known as Confederate Yankee, bragging about how easy it would be for him and his buddies to take out a power station:
    The funny thing is he admits in his post that, fourteen hours after showing up at around a reservoir, the police caught up to him, even though he wasn't involved in anything nefarious. If his "insurgents" put his plan into action, they'd have all sorts of state, local, and federal authorities, as well as power company private security on their asses. It's like he's setting up his gullible readers for a stomping.

  43. smut clyde3:04 AM

    Obviously a real black-out would wipe all the CCTV records, BBBB.

  44. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:08 AM

    Of course, Bobowens and Glenn Reynolds won't be anywhere near the hot zone when their deluded readers go up against the Big Battalions, and they will deny said "insurgents" thrice before cock's crow when Johnny Law comes a-callin'.

  45. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:09 AM

    You forgot to add WOLVERINES!!!

  46. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:12 AM

    Laugh it up all you want, but it wasn't merely a charcoal grill that was lost, but a charcoal Grail. Come to think of it, grill and grail are probably homophones for Bobo...

  47. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:13 AM

    You know who else was an expert on Hitler art?

  48. Malignant Bouffant3:18 AM

    Owens a couple of wks. ago:
    What you’ll see in the rebellion

    [author's note: This article is just one of an evolving series of posts reacting to current events that many are interpreting as possible threats to our Republic and the Constitution. Please proceed to the main page to keep up to date. Thank you.]

  49. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:25 AM

    Additionally, critical infrastructure has absolutely no battery backup systems.

  50. robotslave3:27 AM

    Taking out the power grid is not as easy as Owens thinks.

    Come now, those transformers can't be any match for a pistol with a few aftermarket gewgaws bolted onto it.

  51. MikeJ3:30 AM

    Elmore Leonard is a good reason to appreciate Justified. Sadly he isn't fastidious with facts when they get in the way of story telling. For instance, the afternoon train actually arrives at 4:15 in Yuma.

  52. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard3:42 AM

    You know he was rubbing one out while he was typing that.

  53. Jeffrey_Kramer3:46 AM

    How Guns Preserve Liberty:

    Scenario 1: Obama orders that everyone who quotes Leviticus at gays or insults a Muslim will be jailed immediately. This is not struck down by the Supreme Court, Obama is not impeached and removed from office, and the Second Amendment Army which gathers to resist is not run over by tanks or bombed into oblivion. Odds of this happening: .000000000000000001

    Scenario 2: An evangelical general announces that he and his friends have regrettably been forced to remove Obama from office due to unimpeachable reports that he was about to issue orders that everyone who quotes Leviticus (etc., etc.). He assures the nation that he has no intention of interfering with the sacred Second Amendment rights of Good People, indeed he asks for their assistance as he rounds up traitors who who have betrayed the cause of Freedom and Liberty by trying to turn this nation into a gay Sharia state. The Second Amendment Army rallies to general's cause. Odds of this happening: a hell of lot higher.

  54. Pope Zebbidie XIII4:15 AM

    What a terrible thing for Bob Owens it would be if the US Army had just gained 10 years experience fighting a civilian insurgency, against guys who had 40 years experience fighting guerilla warfare against a series of super-powers.

    It would be like throwing a baby into a combine harvester.

  55. Justifed is actually a pretty good show. And your comment seems weirdly disjointed, which is usually my style and not yours.

  56. Hey, us straight guys can like him too. And be envious of his near non-ability to age.

  57. chuckling6:29 AM

    "How many days with partial power or no power, how many nights in the
    dark, would it take before the local economy collapsed in the targeted
    area? "

    I don't know. Maybe someone should ask all those folk who went without power for so long after Hurricane Sandy.

  58. Lancelot Link6:38 AM

    Near-future President's security briefing;
    "Bob Owens Determined To Strike In US"

  59. Insurgents could cripple a city, region, or state, without ever firing a bullet at another human being.

    Mmmmmm....good cracker.

    So, thanks to Ultra-Patriot Confederate Yankee I now understand the mistake that al-Qaida has been making. They need to wear tri-corner hats, wave Murkin flags, and moan about imaginary Constitutional boundaries (or DFHs), and they can then openly make plans to attack American citizens in an effort to undermine the nation's duly elected representational government.

    Apparently, it's all in the costume you wear, 'cause I don't see any other difference.

  60. I agree with your opinion on the show, and was disappointed.

    Based on what I thought were trustworthy recommendations, I also streamed the "better" part of the first season. While the acting was decent, and Olyphant is enjoyable to watch, I found the whole gimmick of him HAVING to shoot someone in a quick-draw shootout every single fucking episode a bit much to take.

    Otherwise, the show is just a pedestrian "boy who's been out of town awhile returns to soap opera drama at every turn." I thought the Appalachian setting would add interest, but it honestly could have been set in LA or Chicago with very, very minor changes to the plot (and accents), for all the attempt I saw to include real Appalachian issues and people.

    Again, the only thing I saw to make it any different than the run-of-the-mill tv show is the cartoonish gunslinging. It wasn't terrible, just annoyingly predictable.

  61. Susan of Texas7:38 AM

    Yeah, we were out of power from 2-4 weeks after Ike (or was it Rita). We managed to survive without eating each other or turning over our gold and guns to the bad guys.

    They think they're Wyatt Earp but have no idea he was a grifter and killer who would have shot them just for being so annoying. It was against the law to carry guns in Tombstone AZ because in those days people knew how stupidly dangerous it was to let a bunch of cowboys come to town, get drunk, and start shooting each other.

  62. Halloween_Jack7:39 AM

    Not to mention, if Guerilla Bob and his WOLVERINES! wreck the economy, who will pay for his next backyard grill? Careful about reaping the whirlwind there, Bob.

  63. casino implosion7:40 AM

    "...Now the same bunch of
    I-really-wanted-to-go-to-Iraq-but-I-have-a-bum-knee preadolescents are
    plotting how to do it to us themselves..."

    Harsh realm! ;)

  64. coozledad8:23 AM

    Owens probably got the idea from the ANC's targeting of power plants after the Sharpeville massacre. They had a coherent political agenda, widespread sympathy among developed liberal nations, and backbone.

    (As far as I know, there was never a weepy petition to replace an ANC Weber propane grill).

    Even the ANC had to abandon this tactic because of the ruthlessness of the Apartheid state. Bob Owens and his friends would melt away in the face of a couple of property seizures or the threat of garnished wages, not to mention being herded into a tiled room and have their faces stamped into the floor.

    When the police start giving Bob and his friends a beatdown, they'll do what committed ANC members did, which is talk. But they'll do it a fuck of a lot quicker.

  65. redoubt8:36 AM

    This is also because Guantanamo Bay only exists for scary brown and blah people.

    I think he shoud review what happened the last time a bunch of overprivileged (and overleveraged) whiners tried to destroy a duly elected government by force.

  66. coozledad8:41 AM

    September, 2007
    North Raleigh weather bad
    It was hurricane Umberto
    Took the only grill he had

    Cause Bobbo
    Because because Bobbo
    Stormy weather
    Nailed his Weber

    The grill is dead
    His grill is dead

  67. sharculese8:57 AM

    He actually looked younger on Damages than he did on Deadwood.

  68. Doghouse Riley9:13 AM

    I still remember "Let the bastards freeze in the dark."

    Which means you also remember when the South was reliably moderately warm in winter....

  69. The Academy of Fine Arts Vienna?

  70. "Urghh... argle... I though you said... CHUTE. And I figured ... Whee! Flume ride!"

  71. But, but ... Oath Keepers! Because in 2009 it somehow became much more likely that the President would be giving unlawful orders.

  72. Helmut Monotreme9:23 AM

    You forgot the war of treason in defense of slavery.

  73. Just so I don't have to take up drinking alcohol heavily, I will try to add to your latter scenario the likelihood that said general would be forcibly detained and relieved of duty by responsible subordinates before he could actually follow through. Especially since the branch most infested with sedititious Constitution-hating Talibornagain is the Air Force, which isn't exactly the best positioned for a coup. And yes, the fact that dismissing your scenario out of hand isn't even on the menu is sufficiently depressing.

  74. But enough about Mayor Giuliani.

  75. I wish I had thought of the wingnut tactic of declaring civil war every time you don't get your way when I was a teen.

    "I can't go that concert, Father? Consider yourself civil-warred! No. Civil-WARNED."

  76. "possible threats to our Republic and the Constitution"

    Bob's grill.

  77. Mr. Wonderful10:01 AM

    Doomsday PREPPERS? Oh fuck. I thought it was Doomsday PEPPERS, and was about scotch bonnets and habaneros and such. I kept wondering, "When are these guys going to put away the fifty pound bags of kibble and break out the garlic?" Like the lady used to say, "Never mind."

  78. I agree, I watched the 1st season and it was pretty ho-hum, in spite of well done acting and Olyphat's kissable face (and I'm a dude)!

  79. Joe Blow10:42 AM

    I don't think Obama's gun laws aren't that weak. More background checks sound like they might work:

    The problem is if they could pass Congress, and they might not:

  80. John D.10:45 AM

    All kidding and snark aside, isn't it about time that words like "treason" and "sedition" started being used in regards to the antics of Bob Owens and his koo-koo bird ilk? And not just by us, but by people in actual positions of power and responsibility?

    Not that I don't appreciate the yucks to be had here, but for some silly reason, the humor begins to fade while observing unstable lunatics visibly working themselves into a state where they're capable of committing actual violence. Call me an old grouch if you will.

  81. Haystack10:55 AM

    Visual aid...

  82. glennisw11:16 AM

    Bob Owen's scheme is brilliant! I foresee a whole lot of amateur electricians being blown off utility poles, and being electrocuted as they try to figure out which hot line to cut. They may indeed cut power with their hijinks, but I predict Darwin's law is going to lead to the fabled "redneck's last words" - "Hey fellers, watch me do THIS!"

  83. glennisw11:20 AM

    I note how in Wingnujt Fantasy Playhouse, the plucky patriotic heroes enact their daring deeds without opposition from law enforcement, let alone the Federal government. Yet, in fact, as we've seen again and again, local law enforcement is singularly unsympathetic to those who would defy authority, whether it's Occupiers or union picketers. The fact that Teabaggers were conducting corporate-sanctioned political theatre with hoverounds is what kept the cops from knocking Teabag heads, but you can bet if knuckleheads with guns started climbing utility poles or rushing the doors of power plants, the cops are going to take them out with extreme prejudice.

  84. mortimer11:24 AM

    Owens is a gun pimp whose small-bore ideas are only matched by the caliber of his microcephalic brain pan. But what really scares me is how much firepower these cretins have. High-velocity bullets from the ubiquitous AR-15 will go through wood and several layers of dry wall with no problem, and even steel isn't much of a barrier unless it's really thick. Even worse, it's not impossible for a higher power military weapon to fuck you up even as you hide inside a house with a concrete exterior. These weapons don't just perforate human beings, they shred them. And all are freely available to any redneck australopithecus with a few hundred bucks. So if some day one of these freaks thinks it's his patriotic duty to fight tyranny by shooting up a liberal neighborhood, there's the potential for some serious damage to be wreaked.

  85. glennisw11:25 AM

    I am curious why they think disrupting life and causing hardship for ordinary citizens is going to bring people to their cause.

  86. glennisw11:29 AM

    I, too, am curious about what happens next in Wingnut Fantasy Theatre. What was the goal for knocking out the power plant? Cripple law enforcement? He does know that they have emergency generators and, thanks to Homeland Security funding, super commandpost vehicles and communications posts?

  87. glennisw11:30 AM

    Just imagine the swell of popular support they're going to get if they manage to take out some Con Ed lineman trying to get the power back on.

  88. tigrismus11:43 AM

    I want to downvote this a million times while calling you a VERY BAD BOY.

  89. bvocal11:46 AM

    I love how crazy white people threatening treason are all referred to as law abiding citizens, meanwhile actual law abiding liberals are all characterized as wanting to destroy the constitution (an idea for which there is zero evidence beyond the words that come out of conservatives mouths)

  90. witlesschum11:51 AM

    Hilter, of course, didn't do anything of the kind, because he wasn't as stupid as Glenn Reynolds or his readers, and knew that guns in private hands were likely to be used to help the Nazi Party and its aims. Which is probably why the Nazis passed a gun law in 1938 that deregulated the ownership of guns and ammo, though not for Jews and whoever else the Nazis hated.

  91. montag212:00 PM

    First, they greatly overestimate their support. They're a small minority, but they imagine themselves to be the majority (as if wishing were going to make it so). They're also counting on the net effect of thirty years of Republicans screaming that government doesn't solve problems, it is the problem. If they can destroy all faith in the government, then, well, they may gain some recruits to the cause. The goal of destroying infrastructure must, to their minds, reflect on the government's ability to manage the country's affairs.

    I didn't say it was logical in any sane and rational sense, but to their way of thinking, it is. M'self, I think it's just wishful thinking at this moment, but the object of their fantasies is likely to push the present administration to overreact in a big way--to manufacture some event that causes people to abandon what trust they still have in this government.

    These people trust authoritarians--that's why there was never a suggestion of such action during the previous administration--and they want that sort of leader back in power. Obama is hardly the liberal they imagine him to be, but he's highly symbolic of liberalism to them. And, to them, a leader is white, autocratic and is someone who will tell them they have purity of purpose and will promise to deliver the country from decay and degeneration, even though the country is surrounded by enemies. And if that sounds familiar, that's because it is, for any age and in any country.

  92. acerplatanoides12:00 PM

    "Taking out the power grid is not as easy as Owens thinks."

    ahem: Transformers, more than meets the eye?

  93. tigrismus12:00 PM

    Tread carefully.

    I, um, WOW. That sounds a teensy bit like an actual terrorist threat.

  94. Hey Bob Owens? I like having the lights on in my house. So if I catch you down the street fucking with my electric power, I'm going to bash you over your pin head with a baseball bat and then I'm going to shove your fucking gun all the way up your ass.

    Sincerely yours, Everybody in the U.S.A.

  95. Shared Humanity12:28 PM

    When you read the list of executive orders that Obama is considering to reduce gun violence, he may have over reached.

    I am particularly concerned about this one.

    "Publishing a letter from the A.T.F. to federally licensed gun dealers providing guidance on how to run background checks for private sellers."

    What's next? A personal note to the teacher on how to hide kids in the broom closet? The guy is a fascist.

  96. BigHank5312:55 PM

    Mr. Owens works in a gun store. .223 ammunition prices have more than doubled after Sandy Hook. Bushmasters sell for 50% over retail, if you can find one.

    It's grifting all the way down.

  97. Tudor Jennings1:00 PM

    sociopaths have no concept of shame

  98. MsInformed1:04 PM

    One person's Freedom Fighter is another person's Tear-ist.

  99. Cargo1:11 PM

    See also: seven days in may.

  100. Tottal1:12 PM

    I do like that word, "gewgaws."

  101. Tottal1:12 PM

    Yep, it sure is necessary for the security of a free state.

  102. tinheart1:29 PM

    A summary of most "revolutions" against the government by nutjobs.

    Deluded Revolutionary: BANG!


    Deluded Revolutionary: ....

    If I see any Bob Evans or whatever his name is near my powerlines, I'll be calling the cops. Bob-o forgets that cellphones still work. The angry public would triangulate the positions of his Star-Spangled Goofballs so fast that they'd disappear in a puff of smoke, like a myth.

  103. JennOfArk1:31 PM

    Here's a guy who was dead wrong about every single fucking thing for the past twelve years - from the mightiest prognostication to the smallest detail - and he hasn't the tiniest bit of shame about it.

    InstaArdnassac (reverse-Cassandra)

  104. JennOfArk1:38 PM

    Mah griyull!!!!

  105. JennOfArk1:46 PM

    I'm following along here (have never seen the show) and it sounds like what's being described is kind of a David Caruso taking off/putting on sunglasses while cracking wise on a one-liner device. Hopefully the youtube legions will be inspired to treat us to an Endless Timothy Olyphant Shoot-Em-Ups video, like they did with Endless David Caruso One-Liners.

    Hopefully, also too, the show features some really iconic music clip, like the Roger Daltrey scream that punctuates Caruso's one-liners.

  106. whetstone1:54 PM

    "Were an angry group of disenfranchised citizens to target in a strategic manner the substations leading to a city or geographic area—say, Albany, for example"

    Albany? "We will bring the nation's most dysfunctional state legislature to its knees"?

  107. whetstone1:58 PM

    I think they think that the regional success of legislators who are destroying America's infrastructure through intransigence and incompetence means that actually blowing shit up will guarantee them a majority in the House, if not outright revolution.

  108. Hopefully, also too, the show features some really iconic music clip, like the Roger Daltrey scream that punctuates Caruso's one-liners.


    GIVENS: Who's there?

    VOICE: Roger Daltrey.

    GIVENS: Roger Daltrey ... [FIRES SIDEARM THROUGH DOOR] ... Who?


  109. JennOfArk2:04 PM

    That grill really pulled the deck together.

  110. whetstone2:05 PM

    The Ol' Prof is probably assuming that his transhuman form will include a conscience.

  111. You would think that in the age of the Internet when information is freely available you would have to work your ass off to be so ignorant. as for Bob Owens, that pussy won't do anything except maybe rile up a few rednecks who would just go out in a hail of gunfire.

  112. BigHank532:17 PM

    He'd delete that in a nanosecond if it meant he could fit in a bigger robo-schlong.

  113. Just like he assumed a couple of painted bombed-out schools meant that we had not only liberated Iraq, but improved it!

  114. not to mention that most Air Force guys are big coddled weenies. Naval aviation would destroy them right away.

  115. aimai2:24 PM

    I'm a huuuuuge Elmore Leonard fan--I was a fan before it was cool. But Justified goes to show how badly Leonard's dialogue and trademark world view translates when it is shot in a glossy, high rez, sunlit world. And as for TImothy Oliphant--I don't find him attractive at all and I'm a straight woman. He looks and acts like a ten year old and I'm not into that creepy pedophile thing. The show is so shallow that it makes windshield fog look deep.

  116. BigHank532:29 PM

    Actually, the one right of Mr. Owens' that I will most definitely defend is that of wanking. If we let the feds stop him from wanking, why, then they could stop any of us from wanking.

    On the other hand, speaking as a middle-aged guy with indifferent looks and a receding hairline, I (unlike Mr. Owens) know how many people want to observe my wanking: ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOBODY.

  117. Formerly_Nom_De_Plume2:35 PM


    Wtf, is Reynolds' program shown on a '60s TV set? Is the following presentation in living color?

  118. Al Swearengen3:04 PM

    My only response to that is, holy fuck Billmon is on Twitter? /follow

  119. M. Krebs3:07 PM

    Speaking of Olyphant, the movie High Life is surprisingly good.

  120. M. Krebs3:18 PM

    I'm not convinced that they're actually fighting for a cause, i.e., I don't think they've thought it though that far. They're basically overgrown children who scream when they think their toys are going to taken away.

  121. M. Krebs3:23 PM

    Reductio ad flatulum?

  122. glennisw3:28 PM

    Whoa. Deb's Garden Shop is a hive of Teh Crazee!

  123. Susan of Texas3:32 PM

    And the grill was the only thing that would light up in his presence.

  124. But the marketing copy says Bushmasters are useful against the tyranny of the state, and that would seem to include C-130s. You're not suggesting that a gun company would lie about the utility of the stuff it sells the god-fearing, are you?

  125. tim1173:56 PM

    Not only that, but don't try to let little Bobby Owens know about your disdain.....the moderation is strong in that one

  126. tim1173:57 PM

    Not sure they would work in a general power outage....

  127. tim1174:00 PM

    They've been doing it since the 1830's and they haven't stopped

  128. tim1174:02 PM

    Apparently, he's never heard of helicopters, drones, or satellites

  129. Malignant Bouffant4:21 PM

    Go Navy!

  130. If I'm remembering correctly, people who planned shit like Mr. Owens just has were supposed to be such a threat to our country that they should be denied trials, held indefinitely in secret, and quite likely tortured.

    Far from suggesting that such a thing would be appropriate, but gooses and ganders...

  131. smut clyde4:28 PM

    It 's only a matter of time before Bobo Wen is actively promoting a mutual-assistance deal with Al Qaeda.

  132. smut clyde4:36 PM

    Don't know about your part of the world, but in NZ the cellphone repeater towers have independent power supply. The Christchurch earthquakes took out mains power but the cellphone network was fine.
    After a while when the phone batteries started running down, people with access to a repeater tower and the appropriate tools set up little neighbourhood recharger stations.

  133. It's more like a guideline, actually.

  134. Malignant Bouffant4:42 PM

    Landlines worked even when the power was out in L.A.'s '94 quake. The AT&T switching office nearest me has a huge diesel generator in the parking lot. No reason to think the mobile providers aren't as interested in making money when the power's off.

  135. Jimcima4:53 PM

    I think I'm going to have to side with the gubmint on this one.

    So, is this what being an authoritarian lackey feels like? Because frankly I was kind of expecting more given the piss shivers this always seems to elicit from conservatives.

  136. JennOfArk5:15 PM

    I'm not sure piss shivers adequately describes it, because piss shivers are mildly pleasurable....oh. Yes, piss shivers it is.

  137. they could put the area in the dark for as long as it took to bring the substations back online.

    um, duh?

  138. Ha! Seriously? Transformers are totally a match for a pistol with geegaws. Even Bumblebee could take that out.

  139. Sgaile-beairt5:58 PM

    oh come on, its not like the northeast has had a bunch of ice storms & wind storms that took power out for days, even weeks, over large areas in the last few on earth wld they be able to handle the cumulative simulation of dozens of crispy fried suicide squirrels, huh??

  140. the opening music sounds like it was done by a fan of True Blood. It's some sort of country-rap hybrid.

  141. Sgaile-beairt6:00 PM

    i am curios why they think public utility companys are incapable, of posting guards or webcams on repeatedly-sabotaged-transformers....

  142. Sgaile-beairt6:01 PM

    ....well actually, first i am curious as to why they think they can sabotage the grid, wo getting themselves badly, or terminally, hurt doing so....there are big scary fences w bobwhar & big scary warning signs on all acccessible junctions, for a reason!!

  143. Sgaile-beairt6:14 PM

    once a fucking year up here in new england....or twice if we re really cannibals yet, just lots & lots of cooperation, sharing resources, some people yelling at the power cos for not being fast enough, more people helping the power cos by alternative social media to coordinate better....oh and lots and lots of generators....!!

  144. Sgaile-beairt6:42 PM

    darwin....or dunning kreuger??

  145. Susan of Texas7:01 PM

    They're a little like the American general in The Mouse That Roared, who insisted on eating beans from a tin plate in the dungeon while his men were fed grapes by buxom Grand Fenwickian lasses. By God, he knew his rights and he would preserve them by any means necessary!

  146. it's more than meets the eye

  147. BigHank537:28 PM

    Gangstagrass featuring T.O.N.E.Z.

  148. Swami_Binkinanda7:40 PM

  149. smut clyde7:43 PM

    The advice against "comparing one's opponents to the Black Shorts" is honoured more in the breeches than the observance.

  150. TGuerrant7:46 PM

    He hasn't even heard that you confess after you do it, not before.

  151. XeckyGilchrist7:51 PM

    "Race and Progressives," says Lord, "have been... the ham and eggs of the Democratic Party,"

    I think you'll find that the ham and eggs are Green.

  152. TGuerrant7:52 PM

    Also too, having confessed in advance will speed the investigation nicely and give the juries lots to laugh about.

  153. Sgaile-beairt7:53 PM

    Doomsday Peppers = awesome band name!!

  154. Sgaile-beairt7:57 PM

    +1 for TMTR ref....also (too) i remember reading an original archive d 1850s newspaper, from the old sw, where the editor was going on & on (& ON!!) about "these so called cow boys' getting drunk & disorderly & someone shld do SOMETHING, lol....

  155. BTW, Thom Hartmann has a great piece pointing out that part of the reason for the 2nd Amendment was to ensure that slave states could continue to operate militias:

    Bonus from that: a solid explanation for why teabaggers love Patrick Henry so much - he was the OG of the TP, right down to the paranoia about the dusky-skinned hordes that might prevail unless he got to keep his gun.

  156. Sgaile-beairt7:58 PM

    huh that wld explain a lot abt the archaicisms of wingnut pop culture references....

  157. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard8:00 PM

    If your insurrection lasts more than four decades, seek medical help.

  158. Peter Bradshaw8:05 PM

    You forgot the Fries rebellion.

  159. Jay B.8:17 PM

    It's either Van Halen or Bull Run dad! Your choice.

  160. XeckyGilchrist8:17 PM

    The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of tykes.

    ...TYRANTS. we meant Tyrants.

  161. Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard8:17 PM

    Sooo... who among us is going to write to Con-Ed et al. to inform them that some yahoo is planning attacks against their infrastructure? I'd love it if Bobowens had to lawyer up.

  162. XeckyGilchrist8:18 PM

    And now, 9/11 = Benghazi. Sigh.

  163. redoubt8:30 PM

    Because Guantanamo was built only for scary brown and blah people, donchaknow.

    And I'm with you on the lack of humor. My ancestors' experience with whip, rope and fire was almost always on the painful end. Now someone wants to look down sights at someone like me, who does nothing more than drive a desk. That s---- ain't funny.

  164. satch8:36 PM

    Well, according to the loons, we've got the 2nd Amendment right to own a 50cal sniper rifle, which, I'm informed, can actually take down a C-130

  165. Sgaile-beairt8:36 PM

    isnt that argumentum ad culo"??

  166. Sgaile-beairt8:56 PM

    what you want to bet, that a high percentage of Albanyians (??) have their own generators in the barns, also too?? thats some mountainous wooded rural terrain, generators a usual precation in my xp....

  167. BigHank539:16 PM

    If you hit an engine, a pilot, or a critical control system. All of which can be done with a less powerful firearm as well, too--you just need better luck. The sticking point is this: firing on a C-130 is pretty much an act of war. (Or terrorism, depending on which side you're on.) At this point, the next warning you're likely to get from the executive branch will be a Hellfire missile.

    The sad and frustrating part is that these sad sacks have been reading their gun-fetish mags until they fall apart, when a week spent on late 20th C. history would have served them better. I mean, take a look at their idiotic fantasies of revolution: they're less grounded in reality than the Symbionese Liberation Army. They are more unhinged than a snake's jaw. They have transcended cluelessness and achieved the peaks of delusion.

  168. XeckyGilchrist9:25 PM

    Maybe even longer, if people forget how to use lightswitches in the meantime.

  169. Jeffrey_Kramer9:29 PM

    Let's remember the Cheney "One Percent Doctrine," which tells us, "if there's only a one-percent chance of it happening, that's all we need to start blowing the shit out of the potential enemy right now." I've got to believe that the Navy is a hundred times more macho than Cheney, so they've got to be committed to the "One-Hundredth-Of-One-Percent Doctrine." That means we ought be seeing mushroom clouds over Colorado Springs any time now.

  170. Formerly_Nom_De_Plume1:35 AM

    Why, he's liable to think back later on what he should have said to you.

  171. Mrs Tilton1:54 AM

    Paging Rob Farley, just in case he was looking for another "disband the USAF" argument.

  172. Now imagine the very same post was written by someone named Muhammed ... .

  173. tim11710:48 AM

    I did not know that. Thanks for the info

  174. It's difficult to imagine a bigger robo-schlong than the Ol' Perfesser, but I suppose you're right.

  175. Oh, come on. No other difference? How about religious extremism, manifesting through such things as vehement homophobia, hostility to women's rights, and an oft-expressed desire to make its reactionary religious code the sole basis for secular law.

  176. And not just by us, but by people in actual positions of power and responsibility?

    It was tried, but then Secretary Napolitano had to pull the report commissioned by the Bush administration about it, because it was the height of incivility to note that violent seditious right-wing groups with arsenals might be a bit of a domestic security problem.

  177. I think those are goals of al-Qaida, too. But I get your point.

  178. Making a bad joke about how their methods and their belief systems are virtually indistinguishable was indeed the very nub of my gist. So I see your point, and [PUTS ON SUNGLASSES] ... raise it.


    ... Shut up, Daltrey. It's just a flesh wound.

  179. Another Kiwi3:33 PM

    People did it after Sandy too.

  180. Another Kiwi3:35 PM

    The risk of contracting tetanus from treading on rusty nails cannot be overstated.

  181. Another Kiwi3:40 PM

    You can't be sure until you've put in on Youtube.

  182. Jackmormon11:57 PM

    And when the police give Bob and his friends a beatdown, he may rethink his opinions about the left. Because no matter how much Bob Owens annoys the crap out of me, it would be flat-out wrong for the state to beat the crap out of him, and I'm sure that the ACLU would be well ahead of me in objecting to that sort of shit.