tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post677081300611809812..comments2023-12-23T16:22:22.290-05:00Comments on alicublog: NEW VILLAGE VOICE COLUMN UP...roy edrosohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15161980502027888634noreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-49305477158204960252014-03-11T11:06:30.134-04:002014-03-11T11:06:30.134-04:00Honestly, I'm disappointed.
I wish we knew f...Honestly, I'm disappointed.<br /><br /><br />I wish we knew for sure who said this.Buddy McCuehttp://buddymccue.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-21941376241121640792014-03-10T20:12:31.941-04:002014-03-10T20:12:31.941-04:00You're right. I checked some more and there is...You're right. I checked some more and there is no actual verification. "Widely thought to be" or "later attributed to" doesn't constitute verification. One such example is cited in the above-linked Wiki article and attributed to Mark Danner, in a 2007 anthology entitled "What Orwell Didn't Know". My mistake. In Suskind's original article, he says only "a senior adviser to Bush". Anything else is still speculation. Sorry. Thanks.Magathanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-19930016772742300592014-03-10T19:24:54.067-04:002014-03-10T19:24:54.067-04:00Misplace that comment and tried to remove it. SPL...Misplace that comment and tried to remove it. SPLAT.TGuerrantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-25869067839179514122014-03-10T19:24:25.494-04:002014-03-10T19:24:25.494-04:00The Errol Morris fascinator.The Errol Morris <a href="http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/10/23/which-came-first-part-three-can-george-lionel-and-marmaduke-help-us-order-the-fenton-photographs/" rel="nofollow">fascinator</a>.TGuerrantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-75375927085422864502014-03-10T19:22:35.954-04:002014-03-10T19:22:35.954-04:00The Errol Morris fascinator!The Errol Morris fascinator!TGuerrantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-28220785194996906432014-03-10T19:14:09.835-04:002014-03-10T19:14:09.835-04:00They don't enlist or pay more taxes to support...They don't enlist or pay more taxes to support the wars, so it's just John Wayne and more John Wayne.TGuerrantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-72506683617793575922014-03-10T18:49:30.288-04:002014-03-10T18:49:30.288-04:00But there's this heartening news:
It appears ...But there's this heartening news:<br /><br />It appears that the anonymous artist has put up at least one other installation. Bowery Boogie reported in September of 2013 that a Barbie doll and a dildo were seen hanging from the telephone line at the intersection of Eldridge and Broome Streets on the Lower East Side. As you can see, the composition of the two art projects are quite similar.TGuerrantnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-47800213578092654082014-03-10T16:27:23.334-04:002014-03-10T16:27:23.334-04:00I'm sorry you took that comment as a personal ...I'm sorry you took that comment as a personal criticism. I was honestly curious about what you were envisioning as pushback and why. I am personally extremely offended by the endless name calling and sheer childish bitchery of the right wing--including its political figures and is celebrities. And I'd like it if the Democrats were ruder and more vicious in return. Myself I'd never, ever, let the chance for a joke to get by me. But I'm not sure it would have any particularly desirable effect on the innocents you imagine are standing by, just being influenced by the right wing. And I'm really sure its not appropriate for people in positions of power to call out people ("STFU") or lash out at their enemies public and unsubtle ways.Aimaihttp://aimaiameye.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-54268159849549251172014-03-10T16:23:58.121-04:002014-03-10T16:23:58.121-04:00Headline: Obama walks on water. Republicans charge...Headline: Obama walks on water. Republicans charge "He can't swim!"Aimaihttp://aimaiameye.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-33089781062821503632014-03-10T16:11:40.090-04:002014-03-10T16:11:40.090-04:00In the run-up to Desert Storm, CNN's 'dram...In the run-up to Desert Storm, CNN's 'dramatic musical intro' their coverage was referred to by the boys in the control booth as "Enya's head trauma".Jaime Orianoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-10155859899726115982014-03-10T13:32:24.115-04:002014-03-10T13:32:24.115-04:00Jeez... this is getting awfully personal. Re slave...Jeez... this is getting awfully personal. Re slavery, I never said that we should have done nothing. There is standing up against slavery, doing what you can to prevent its spread, and not caving and compromising in the decades leading up to 1860, while at the same time not wanting to start a full blown war. And I'm not saying now that we can be delivering a once and for all coup de grace to people's beliefs rather than waiting for them to wither away, but we DO have to say something... we DO have to make an argument. The gay community did not wait around saying "Aw, hell, people's attitudes are set in stone and we might as well not even try to get equal rights". Their argument, made over and over again for years, was "We're really no different from you. We want the same things you want... jobs, children, dignity, all the things that go into a fulfilling life." And they had to SAY it, not wait around for the culture to change. I'm not looking to get into a Chuckling vs Aimai style steel cage match here, I'm just saying that whenever some wingnut blowhole like Lindsey Graham or John McCain, or Charles Krauthammer leaps up (OK, granted... Krauthammer won't be leaping up) and calls Obama a weak, pusillanimous, mom-jeans-wearing 21st century Neville Chamberlain, I'd like to hear someone, preferably a Dem senator, congresscreature, or other "thought leader" state unequivocally that they are, in fact, blowholes who should stfu unless they actually have something constructive to contribute. SOS Kerry, I guess, feels he needs to speak in measured, diplomatic tones, so he doesn't seem to want to tell some of the more strident chickenhawks to take a seat and cool out. There are a lot of progressive bloggers, not the least of which our own Roy, who do the calling out really well, and some...but I'd like to see more... columnists. But Dem politicians... not so much. I hope this covers your post below, too. If not, well, you can have the last word.satchnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-58503120264167396722014-03-10T12:51:51.455-04:002014-03-10T12:51:51.455-04:00"...absolutely nothing we do, or don't do..."...absolutely nothing we do, or don't do, can make these people one jot or one tittle less awful."<br /><br /><br />This, this, a thousand times this. It's a mistake to think that these people are sincere, or that they harbor a respectable disagreement with one over the meaning of history, the truths about human nature, etc.<br /><br /><br />No, they get out of bed every morning filled with resentment, and find the next target of opportunity. If it's not delivered to them by Rush Limbaugh, then they get it from Fox News, or their fellow idiot at work. Expecting them to be consistent, or show some honesty, or acknowledge facts, is like expecting a schizophrenic to "be reasonable."Ellis_Weinernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-11083596555147510142014-03-10T12:35:06.879-04:002014-03-10T12:35:06.879-04:00Obama could cure cancer, and the next day the bret...Obama could cure cancer, and the next day the brethren would be denouncing his "short-sighted indifference to a wide range of diseases."<br /><br />The only error one can make in dealing with these horrible people is to believe that they mean well.Ellis_Weinernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-53731551170566009162014-03-10T12:32:53.329-04:002014-03-10T12:32:53.329-04:00I was sure everyone on the toobz had seen this by ...I was sure everyone on the toobz had seen <a href="http://consumerist.com/2014/01/23/no-that-sansabelt-action-pants-ad-you-saw-on-facebook-is-not-real/" rel="nofollow">this</a> by now.El Manquécitonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-29270841305479064552014-03-10T12:23:14.319-04:002014-03-10T12:23:14.319-04:00Not in McCain's. Not without a McCrane.Not in McCain's. Not without a McCrane.Jeffraham Prestonianhttp://jprestonian.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-29409889732532764992014-03-10T12:15:43.554-04:002014-03-10T12:15:43.554-04:00Aimai, my love, there's an "action zone&q...Aimai, my love, there's an "action zone" in every pair of pants.Big_Bad_Bald_Bastardhttp://bigbadbaldbastard.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-23690043577170413562014-03-10T12:03:39.362-04:002014-03-10T12:03:39.362-04:00I've quoted from that Ron Suskind piece quite ...I've quoted from that Ron Suskind piece quite a few times over the years myself. It really goes a long way toward understanding the "conclusion first" method of thought that's so common on the Right.<br /><br /><br />However, I didn't know that the source was definitively Karl Rove. Where did that verification come from?Buddy McCuehttp://buddymccue.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-22792932526631464432014-03-10T11:54:45.986-04:002014-03-10T11:54:45.986-04:00Is that what they call it? No kidding, is there an...Is that what they call it? No kidding, is there an "action zone" in a sansabelt?Aimaihttp://aimaiameye.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-85444376579361787192014-03-10T11:53:49.588-04:002014-03-10T11:53:49.588-04:00Forgive me for raking up a possibly painful point ...Forgive me for raking up a possibly painful point but weren't you complaining that we fought the civil war when if we'd just left things along slavery would have withered away? What makes modern politics different such that we now need to be, or can, delivering the coup de grace to people's beliefs rather than waiting for them to wither away? That's actually been rather true of gay marriage and homosexuality, btw--people fought, came out, acted up and then just said "the hell with it give us actual legal rights" and slowly but surely the actual populace, if not the farthest right, has gone from total opposition to support. And all that without political thought leaders doing it for us.Aimaihttp://aimaiameye.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-21751672799755004162014-03-10T11:50:57.296-04:002014-03-10T11:50:57.296-04:00Well, this was both true and not true--the spectre...Well, this was both true and not true--the spectre of communism spawned massive anti communist crazy, but it also restrained capital from going its length. Famously FDR is supposed to have pointed out that he was all that stood between the capitalists and the pitchforks and the US was petrified that Martin Luther King would be able to turn Jim Crow and US racism into an international cause. The accusation that certain people were communist went hand in hand with trying to buy off the working class. All that evaporated along with the the actual communist menace, except the cheshire cat grin of the far right anti communist agitators.Aimaihttp://aimaiameye.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-63316885092751480552014-03-10T11:47:10.191-04:002014-03-10T11:47:10.191-04:00I would have given this comment 10 upvotes, but Th...I would have given this comment 10 upvotes, but The Man prevented it.tinheartnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-27876082236575018732014-03-10T11:46:59.431-04:002014-03-10T11:46:59.431-04:00Oh for christ's sake we just won two president...Oh for christ's sake we just won two presidential elections in a row. Not only did that rely on "our side suiting up" but it kicked the paranoia into high gear. I just can't stand all this bellyaching about how someone else should do the heavy lifting, and be darned clever about it already. This is an ENORMOUS country with tons of people who are simply locked into their little communities, or even just inside their houses watching fox news. The reality is that the most virulent Fox watchers are retired people--they can't be reached suit we never so wisely. And as for outreach to younger people well--get out there and give 'em a reacharound.Aimaihttp://aimaiameye.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-33271973456318633452014-03-10T11:45:31.899-04:002014-03-10T11:45:31.899-04:00All I have to bring to the table is this [Batman S...All I have to bring to the table is this [Batman Squirt Gun.](http://www.complex.com/pop-culture/2012/12/25-most-pause-worthy-childrens-toys/batman-water-gun)Buddy McCuehttp://buddymccue.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-52161892111291373902014-03-10T11:40:10.124-04:002014-03-10T11:40:10.124-04:00The point is that they don't like Obama.
The...The point is that they don't like Obama.<br /><br /><br />They just haven't been able to work all the rest of the stuff in yet... not in any way that makes sense.Buddy McCuehttp://buddymccue.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-62163960880054406302014-03-10T11:21:16.141-04:002014-03-10T11:21:16.141-04:00The want a military crisis though. They loved the...The want a military crisis though. They loved them some cold war style godless communism. Stalinist -Maoist communism was a birthday and Christmas present to them. The existence of communism in the USSR was a perfect excuse to perpetuate every single money making injustice in America because the number one job was fighting communism, and addressing any other problem was a dangerous distraction from the task at hand. The existence of communism was the perfect counter argument for every labor complaint, it was the stick investors and managers used to beat labor for 70 or 80 years. We can't have socialized medicine because communism. We can't have civil rights because communism. We can't address pollution or carbon emissions because communism. The bipolar cold war world let injustice fester at home and bloom abroad. How many coups did the US sponsor in the name of fighting communism? How many dictators did we support in the name of fighting communism? For a large fraction of the US economy, the cold war was a license to print money, and there's a lot of people who miss that gravy train.Helmut Monotremenoreply@blogger.com