tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post2619624327560748477..comments2023-12-23T16:22:22.290-05:00Comments on alicublog: ANNALS OF THE CULTURE WAR, CONT.roy edrosohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15161980502027888634noreply@blogger.comBlogger252125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-55767180371561540152013-02-19T11:06:15.427-05:002013-02-19T11:06:15.427-05:00Since this has gotten a little attention, I'll...Since this has gotten a little attention, I'll amend it to say that had I bothered to edit:<br /><br />"...is a more achievable aspiration than being Lena Dunham for most women, but unfortunately it's pretty much nobody's definition of cool."<br /><br />would read:<br /><br />"...is a more achievable aspiration than being Lena Dunham for most women, but <i>fortunately</i> it's pretty much <i>no woman's</i> definition of cool.chucklingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-20416785327253814512013-02-16T11:45:15.922-05:002013-02-16T11:45:15.922-05:00Well, I love Alan Arkin but there really is someth...Well, I love Alan Arkin but there really is something odd about accepting that the grandfather is porn obsessed and that he takes the granddaughter off and teaches her to bump and grind secretely and not seeing any kind of link--like, what, he's purer than pure? In reality such a grandfather is actually sexualizing and sexually abusing that grandchild. I couldn't suspend disbelief, somehow, much as I love Alan Arkin--who I've been watching, enthralled, since he was the murderous thug in Don't Look Now or whatever that movie was called.<br /><br /><br />Of course the film makers mean to make the (obvious) statement that the pageant people are creepy and that there is a "healthy sexuality" that puts their fake princess shit to shame. But I don't agree that what Olive and the grandfather are portraying is, in fact, a healthy sexuality for a girl that age--I think she's being used by him (and he's a pretty selfish guy so using is his mode) and she is being used inappropriately to act out his sexual needs through her. <br /><br /><br />I found the whole thing exploitatitve, both the film makers relationship to the audience and the imagined relationship between the grandfather and the granddaughter. I get that people like it or see it as a wry commentary on the awfulness of everything but, for me, it just seemed fake hip.aimainoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-43098785014249246832013-02-16T10:23:05.823-05:002013-02-16T10:23:05.823-05:00I believe that the white make-up that Queen Elizab...I believe that the white make-up that Queen Elizabeth I used in her later years was also lead-based, but whether it affected her health adversely I have no idea.The Dark Avengernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-79150030643012297372013-02-16T10:22:54.880-05:002013-02-16T10:22:54.880-05:00It's kind of a riff on a passage from The Long...It's kind of a riff on a passage from The Long Goodbye by Raymond Chandler:<br /><br />There is the soft and willing and alcoholic blonde who doesn't care what she wears as long as it is mink or where she goes as long as it is the Starlight Room and there is plenty of dry champagne. There is the small perky blonde who is a little pal and wants to pay her own way and is full of sunshine and common sense and knows judo from the ground up and can toss a truck driver over her shoulder without missing more than one sentence out of the editorial in the Saturday Review. There is the pale, pale blonde with anemia of some non-fatal but incurable type. She is very languid and very shadowy and she speaks softly out of nowhere and you can't lay a finger on her because in the first place you don't want to and in the second place she is reading The Waste Land or Dante in the original, or Kafka or Kierkegaard or studying Provençal . She adores music and when the New York Philharmonic is playing Hindemith she can tell you which one of the six bass viols came in a quarter of a beat late. I hear Toscanini can also. That makes two of themThe Dark Avengernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-52934173531319325822013-02-16T10:16:41.357-05:002013-02-16T10:16:41.357-05:00I watched Tiny Furniture the other day (don't ...I watched Tiny Furniture the other day (don't have HBO so will be awhile before I see Girls) and was a little surprised that Lena Dunham looked familiar. She went to the same school as my kids, though she was a few years older than my eldest, so it's possible I've seen her around over the years. Then I was very surprised, only because I'm sometimes very slow on the uptake, to realize that Dunham's sister, who is also in Tiny Furniture, is a friend of my daughter. So since I kind of know Lena in a few degrees of separation kind of way, I can attest that she got an excellent, very well rounded education and it's pretty much assured that she has a favorite book(shelf), that she not only enjoy's listening to music but plays it as well, and is no stranger to the many museums about town. As is her friggin character in Tiny Furniture and from the sound of it likely in Girls, too. <br /><br /><br />Anyway, interesting the dude's definition of cool when applied to a young woman. It's not someone who's smart, well-educated, cultured, ridiculously successful in television, probably crown fucking princess of the New York indie celebrity scene -- no, none of that is cool -- but someone who will fetch him a hot dog at a baseball game. Of course pretending to share the interests of some conservative ass and smiling as he drones on and on about whatever infuriates him at the moment is a more achievable aspiration than being Lena Dunham for most women, but unfortunately it's pretty much nobody's definition of cool.chucklingnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-50781996366465757632013-02-16T10:16:26.964-05:002013-02-16T10:16:26.964-05:00My favorite, favorite lines of writing in the whol...My favorite, favorite lines of writing in the whole world on the subject of women in media and their attractiveness:<br /><br /><i>There is also the matter of taste. My own seems to run to small-featured brunettes in thick glasses who read Apollinaire in the original and phone at two in the morning threatening suicide, a type woefully underrepresented in the iconography of American adult entertainment.</i><br /><br /><br />--Robert Rossney, <i>Wired</i>BigHank53noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-58337924316452618662013-02-16T10:15:33.048-05:002013-02-16T10:15:33.048-05:00Shit. So much for my carefully-planned fourth care...Shit. So much for my carefully-planned fourth career.BigHank53noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-91872036454579634972013-02-16T09:51:26.141-05:002013-02-16T09:51:26.141-05:00What, no vacuum cleaner?What, no vacuum cleaner?M. Krebsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-26876990463023634542013-02-16T09:50:40.721-05:002013-02-16T09:50:40.721-05:00Well said, zuzu. The only creepiness I detected in...Well said, zuzu. The only creepiness I detected in that movie was not with Olive but with the other dolled-up girls and their sick parents. Besides, ALAN ARKIN!M. Krebsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-81402932123016359482013-02-16T09:40:46.168-05:002013-02-16T09:40:46.168-05:00Yeah, that conditioning won't work on me eithe...Yeah, that conditioning won't work on me either.AGoodQuestionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-47170821633261204742013-02-16T09:38:32.603-05:002013-02-16T09:38:32.603-05:00What do your masturbatory "if I ran the world...What do your masturbatory "if I ran the world" fantasies constitute?AGoodQuestionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-72931586338401309182013-02-16T09:34:01.175-05:002013-02-16T09:34:01.175-05:00Only if it goes over really well.Only if it goes over really well.AGoodQuestionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-73821350709015317862013-02-16T09:31:00.243-05:002013-02-16T09:31:00.243-05:00You're so right it hurts. 9/11 brought us 2-4...You're so right it hurts. 9/11 brought us 2-4 solid years (and that's counting, ahem, conservatively) of "terrorists, so shut up." For the brethren that's exactly what this country needed.AGoodQuestionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-18775510341072239272013-02-15T17:46:20.519-05:002013-02-15T17:46:20.519-05:00Yeah, a COOL chick!Yeah, a COOL chick!tigrismusnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-83416192106206155012013-02-15T17:42:33.635-05:002013-02-15T17:42:33.635-05:00(I am presuming that, as a screenwriter, actress, ...<i>(I am presuming that, as a screenwriter, actress, and child of artists, Lena Dunham is statistically likely to enjoy books, museums, and music—JUST A GUESS).</i><br />The problem with Judge is that he's looking for a woman who enjoys <i>Atlas Shrugged</i>, the Creation Museum, and Ted Nugent- JUST A GUESS.Big_Bad_Bald_Bastardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-66794942025409873692013-02-15T17:42:01.274-05:002013-02-15T17:42:01.274-05:00In other words, she's real world pretty, but n...In other words, she's real world pretty, but not T.V. pretty.Big_Bad_Bald_Bastardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-9097667258724320662013-02-15T17:41:59.005-05:002013-02-15T17:41:59.005-05:00You're missing the forest for the trees: the g...You're missing the forest for the trees: the grievance <i>is</i> the point. That's why they joined the GOP, because it gave them more chances to feel sorry for themselves about how all those ungrateful poors and blacks and homos are stealing their money.<br /><br /><br />Every time you get one of those emails you get to feel sorry for yourself. Then you get to do it again when you send it along.BigHank53noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-71859270500270216362013-02-15T17:41:21.815-05:002013-02-15T17:41:21.815-05:00I would like to... actually, I'll just say tha...I would like to... actually, I'll just say that I laughed out loud at that comment.whetstonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-74149043087700733082013-02-15T17:40:26.329-05:002013-02-15T17:40:26.329-05:00More like Harry Powell, but you're in the righ...More like Harry Powell, but you're in the right ballpark.AGoodQuestionnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-31364966145256614602013-02-15T17:40:05.507-05:002013-02-15T17:40:05.507-05:00Just as a side note on Lena Dunham: it has been si...Just as a side note on Lena Dunham: it has been simultaneously hilarious and depressing how her fuckability (I mean, literally) has become a topic of artistic criticism. It's gotten to this weird point where people acknowledge that she's attractive to lots and lots of people, but she is <i>unrealistically unattractive for the inherent unreality of the medium</i>.<br /><br /><br />I was an English major in college during the late-90s and early-00s, so I am aware of all the meta-levels that people can react to artistic depiction on, but some things you can verify by looking around at the world around you.whetstonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-51160881383591650792013-02-15T17:39:49.998-05:002013-02-15T17:39:49.998-05:00It pays well if you're David Brooks or George ...It pays well if you're David Brooks or George Will. It doesn't pay as well if you're just a troll posting stupid shit on alicublog.Big_Bad_Bald_Bastardnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-71784415832091486152013-02-15T17:38:14.095-05:002013-02-15T17:38:14.095-05:00A cool chick would go to a baseball game with you,...<i>A cool chick would go to a baseball game with you, maybe liked a cool band, and also had a favorite museum and novel. They were cool because they weren’t just one thing–the Lena Dunham hipster</i><br /><br />So... you want a Lena Dunham hipster who will also go to a baseball game with you (I am presuming that, as a screenwriter, actress, and child of artists, Lena Dunham is statistically likely to enjoy books, museums, and music—JUST A GUESS).<br /><br />What sort of bubble does Mark Judge live in? He's looking for a woman who likes at least one thing in three extremely broad, eternal genres of art (not that there's anything wrong with liking, say, the Field Museum, I know "cool chicks" for whom that's the case), and is at least tolerant of a sport known as America's Pastime. We're not talking a hobbyist cobbler who likes jai alai here. Shit, we're not even talking <i>hockey</i>.<br /><br /><br /><br />This would be a shitty OkCupid profile, much less an essay.whetstonenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5191252.post-11819102312551519172013-02-15T13:53:12.773-05:002013-02-15T13:53:12.773-05:00Ηі, i think that i ѕаw you
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