UPDATE. Nobody likes Pammy.
Tuesday, May 05, 2015
FUCK YOUR BLOODTHIRSTY GODS, CONT.
I hear Pam Geller held a Draw Mohammed event in Texas which drew some unwanted attention (well, unwanted by normal people, anyway -- I'm sure Geller is delighted). I wonder why she didn't invite me -- I have after all been the internet's boldest, baddest blasphemy-be-unto-him artist since 2006:
I'm joking, of course -- the noted rageclown Geller doesn't do free-speech events, she does skree-kill-Mooslims events, in which I have no interest. Nonetheless, I defend to the death their right to harrumph harrumph harrumph. Now where's my medal?
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Nonetheless, I defend to the death their right to say harrumph harrumph. Now where's my medal?You have to take it to the next step in First Amendment fealty: You have to support the building of a religious community center on private property, even if you don't personally agree with the religion in question.
ReplyDeleteOh, wait, no, sorry, that's what makes these fascists** take the medal back.
**(I'll stop using people like Geller and Geert Wilders fascist when they stop using Mein Kampf as their goddamned operations manual.)
I hear Pam Geller held a Draw Mohammed event in Texas which drew some unwanted attention (well, unwanted by normal people, anyway -- I'm sure Geller is delighted).Yeah, what if they held a Reichstag fire, and nobody came? Still, I join the organizers of this event in agreeing that it's wrong to carry guns to political meetings.
ReplyDeleteWere ya wavin' a shootin' arn whin ya said that? If not, don't count, Pilgrim...
ReplyDeleteYou jest of course about your medal, but the PEN kerfuffle from last week around honoring Charlie Hebdo now takes on a whole other complexion. Should they be presenting a courage in journalism award to Pam Geller? Wingnuts of the world may rightly wonder why not.
ReplyDeleteI wonder when her followers will realize that Pam almost got some of them killed. It has to affect future attendance.
ReplyDeleteFeature, not bug. What better way to prove the ebil mooslims should be rounded up and slaughtered?
ReplyDeleteI note in the Times story that she got started by commenting on Original Issue Charles Johnson, I wonder if the Times knows how long it's been since OICJ has repudiated that nonsense.
ReplyDeleteShould they be presenting a courage in journalism award to Pam Geller?Yeah, remember when she bravely stood by the inflammatory rhetoric that helped inspire her acolyte Anders Breivik to murder a bunch of young Norwegians? Her whole "I never -- Hey, look over there! A Muslim" shtick was a profile in courage and personal responsibility.
ReplyDeleteSadly, I think the very idea of not offending Muslims is now considered some sort of weak-kneed pacifism. Thus we get things like this or Charly Hebdo just openly provoking Muslims and then reacting in shocked amazement when some of the more fanatical followers of Islam strike out at them.
ReplyDeleteIt's Texas. Where Ft Hood is. And Waco. Exploding fertilizer plants. Burning refineries. JadeHelm15 crazies.
ReplyDeleteThis was pretty much just another day.
I'm sure they feel like heroic martyrs who would gladly do it again. Especially because only the paid help was in actual danger (it was a moonlighting school security guard that got hit; the police were apparently very well prepared, and Geller claims, probably falsely, that she gave them an extra $10,000 tip).
ReplyDeleteTrue, there is a willful blindness that develops when people live under those conditions.
ReplyDeleteAnd what could go wrong with attracting a bunch of paranoid, armed and ready-for-simulated-combat suburban warriors to their meetings?
ReplyDeleteNow that Greg Abbott has all the ultra-paranoid Texans riled up against the coming military takeover of Texas, I'm wondering how long it's going to be before some citizen militia starts taking potshots at a local National Guard unit doing the weekend warrior thing.
ReplyDeleteSadly, I think the very idea of not offending Muslims is now considered some sort of weak-kneed pacifism.Yet mysteriously, anything except the most reverent deference to right-wing Christianity is an assault on liberty.
ReplyDeleteNo-one's saying she isn't a racist shitweasel, the issue is that PEN have created a standard by which racist shitweasels might be deserving of an once-prestigious award.
ReplyDeleteI didn't even think of those guys. I'd be terrified.
ReplyDeleteI miss the lost Sadly, No! photoshops.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.sadlyno.com/archives/7681
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She's highly selective about the whole free speech thing.
ReplyDeleteExclusive: Pamela Geller calls for American blacklist of pro-jihad TV network
by Pamela Geller
"Here is more proof of why terror TV, Al Jazeera, should be kept off the U.S. airwaves."
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2015/05/free-speech-for-me-but-not-for-thee.html
The real issue for me is that Islamophobe trolls - and plenty of politicians happy to pander to them - have used the Hebdo stuff to cloak themselves as defenders of freedom of speech.
ReplyDeleteMy old mantra is that I won't believe you are a defender of free speech until you defend a person saying something you find personally offensive. And none of the Geller gang has ever seemed remotely capable of doing that.
Yes. This.
ReplyDeleteBigoted dickbags provoke murderous dickbags who are in turn shot dead by law enforcement; seems like the best worst possible outcome one could expect.
ReplyDeleteI'm still trying to figure out where Geller got the money to piss away on something this dumb. Apart from using Simon & Schuster like a hacked ATM, what the hell is her income? Are there other, more successful wingnuts supporting her?
ReplyDeleteIt's not the main point, but it's really puzzling.
I believe she was married to a guy with money and got a million or two in the divorce.
ReplyDeleteWingnut welfare is a mystery. I figure Geller's siphoning off the Gaffney income stream, but as with so many of these outfits, their main selling point is their email list... and assuming Geller has a few thousand committed pant-shitters, that might be worth something to another huckster.
ReplyDeleteMedal? First prize was 10,000 clams. Think of what you could do with that kind of skrilla.
ReplyDeleteI'm no expert on the entirety of the output of Charlie Hebdo, but i go nuts when people argue that (some of) those cartoons aren't racist They're incredibly racist. Own it. They aren't racist because they're mocking Islam, they aren't even racist because they're mocking Islam in a country with a large marginalized Islamic population (though that is an issue)... they're racist because they're freaking racist.
ReplyDeleteApart from using Simon & Schuster like a hacked ATM, what the hell is her income?She's the co-founder of the American Freedom Defense Initiative, which according to the LA Times, in 2013 declared contributions of ~$960,000 and a salary for Geller of $200,000. So in addition to any prior resources, she's got an official non-profit grift funnel of her own.
ReplyDeleteOh, come on, the members of the Holy Trinity anally sexing one another wasn't racist. Hmm, I wonder when Geller will have an event celebrating that cartoon?
ReplyDeleteIt's nice work once you have your morality surgically removed.
ReplyDeleteWell, to be fair, I still see some daylight between Charlie Hebdo's more indiscriminate offensiveness and Geller's desire to exterminate all Muslims in the world ... then go to work on the rest of the Marxist socialist traitors in our federal government.
ReplyDeleteI mean, the Charlie Hebdo explainers I've listened to have mostly gone along the lines of 1.) they've always done cartoons like that 2.) about everyone and, sometimes, 3.) the context of France's culture and politics makes it very different than it looks to Americans. I'm somewhat on board with 1 and 2, while I honestly don't know enough about 3, but I'm more dubious there.
ReplyDeleteOf my is it. My work email is on some list, so I get things like "The Best of Cain" which purports to be a list of snake oil-level products and schemes endorsed by everyone's favorite black Republican pizza CEO.
ReplyDeleteRight, 3) is the issue. It's basically the equivalent of "Oh i didn't know depicting african-americans with big lips snacking on watermelon and fried chicken was racist!!!' Certain types of caricatures have deep racist roots, and if your job is to be a bold pioneering cartoonist you're probably aware of this.
ReplyDeleteCharlie Hebdo is comprised of obnoxious, sophomoric jerks. On the other hand, if we start adding up the number of felonious acts (like murders and rapes) they're responsible for, they've probably caused less damage than your average state university's average fraternity.
ReplyDeleteI do too, but CH are getting an award because they drew pictures of Mohamed despite the risks; and if you want to use this as a measure of courage, I'm not sure how this act is substantively different from Geller's.
ReplyDeleteThe cartoons were/are not racist, but the Hebdo explainers are quick to point out "it's satire!!!" But it's satire being done on a 5th-grade level. There's no thought behind any of it, no sophistication, nothing that might make a reader think about anything or reconsider a long-held position.
ReplyDeleteIt's just a bunch of childish tastelessness cobbled together with the intent to offend, not inform. And while I'm on board with free speech and the defense thereof, that DOES NOT mean I like what Hebdo publishes.
And, again, what is admirable about provoking other people to violence? What social statement are you making beyond "I'm a gigantic dick, but I can show you that someone else is an even bigger dick, so it's good for me to be a dick!"
In the grand tradition of Marilyn Manson and 2-Live Crew, Geller did something designed just to make people angry and it did and she's getting famous off of it.
ReplyDeleteOf course, no one tried to kill Marilyn Manson.
I'm not sure how it is considered a free speech issue when one discovers it's possible to get people crazy angry with images and words.
I'm not sure how this act is substantively different from Geller's.They didn't have a pre-deployed security detail?
ReplyDeleteThey'd had police protection for years and years. Remember, "I'm not Charlie, I'm Ahmed"? Ahmed was the cop who the attackers shot first, if I remember right.
ReplyDeleteI'm pretty sure an off-duty or police reserve officer was among the dead at the CH offices.
ReplyDeleteThe other explanation I often hear is - the main CH target is the (definitely racist and probably still anti-Semitic) French far right, so it's not really credible to call CH racist.
ReplyDeleteNone of which negates the fact that some of their work could be construed as racist. I actually think there's a fair debate to be had on this point, though perhaps CH needs a circulation of more than a few thousand left-bank gaulois smokers to prompt such a discussion.
Pam's decision to locate this in Texas is part of a broader strategy to fuse anti Islam sentiment with white identity and anti-black racism. The ooga booga is the Republicans' and their Likudnik allies' best chance with those "centrists" who helped George Bush elbow into the White House twice.
ReplyDeleteIf there's one thing they know, it's that this country is majority racist, even if a large subsection of it is so thoroughly gutless they refuse to cop to it.
"Geller and Oshry were co-owners, along with Christ Tsiropoulous, of at least two car dealerships before the Gellers divorced in 2007. That was the same year Collin Thomas, one of their salesmen, was gunned down while closing their dealership, Universal Auto World, one evening.
ReplyDeleteThe investigation into the murder uncovered an alleged fraud ring. According to the New York Daily News, employees enabled "underground characters," including "known" drug dealers, to buy luxury cars using fake identities. Eleven people who worked for the dealership, including Tsiropoulous, were arrested, but Geller escaped the scandal unscathed. According to The New York Times, she received a $4 million divorce settlement, a portion of $1.8 million from the sale of the Long Island home and then a $5 million life insurance payment when Oshry died a few months after remarrying in 2008. The criminal case has not moved forward since the 2008 arrests."
http://www.splcenter.org/get-informed/intelligence-files/profiles/pamela-geller
I remember the Doug Henwood Show had on a guest who went into the history and context of Charlie Hebdo, but I'm a little fuzzy on recalling the details. Mainly, I think he made that point, that the far right is their consistent target, but also that the idea of what's racist or bigoted was more complicated in France than primarily Americans were making it, because a lot Muslim immigrants and their descendants are happily assimilating to mainstream French culture and becoming good, secular Europeons, while others are still religious but don't care if you draw Muhammad or not, so to argue it's the equivalent of racism or bigotry against Muslims amounts to the old thing of giving a small, radical bunch ownership of the label "Muslim." All of which seems reasonable enough, as far as it goes.
ReplyDeleteI think the real thing is that France is not a multi-cultural country in the was U.S. is supposed to be and doesn't really think that not offending people or not being racist in this sort of way is very important. Certainly not compared to Americans. But I don't feel very confident in my knowledge of France.
It is a multi-cultural country but there's a desire to pretend it isn't, up to the point of barring collection of race-based statistics. But your description really does get at the point - if you assume away racism, then it's not racist!
ReplyDeleteI picture these guys going after much softer targets: Wal Marts, feed stores playgrounds, schools.
ReplyDeletePlaces where they can kill the most people.
Abbot is guilty of incitement, and he ought to be in solitary for the rest of his life.
No surprise she was balling murder trash. She's got all the makings of a murderer herself.
ReplyDeleteJust because the bad thing is targeting people you don't like doesn't make the bad thing a good thing. Racism in the name of pluralism is no virtue.
ReplyDeleteThat's what I meant, their official ideology is just not in favor of multiculturalism in the way the U.S.'s is.
ReplyDeleteI kind of presume that most of these texan gun second amendment people aren't actually prepared to pull out hteir guns when they think they might get shot. They own them, and fondle them, but most of the shooting seems to be accidental and while drunk. These aren't some kind of successful paramilitary.
ReplyDeleteConceded, though the point I was clumsily getting at was that I didn't get the sense that they were jonesing for an actual firefight the way Geller obviously was. Which doesn't change that they're being held up as profiles in courage for punching down, not up.
ReplyDeleteLife is totally fair and just. I'm glad I live in a universe where only the wicked are punished and God smiles favorably upon the decent.
ReplyDeleteAl Jazeera is pro-jihad, huh? Is that based on it having the word "Al" in its name?
ReplyDeleteJust don't get blood on my popcorn, please.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, some Charlie Hebdo survivors were interviewed by Charlie Rose, and they couldn't distance themselves from Pammy and the Texas mess fast enough. I still believe said distance has some truth to it, but not as much as they might think.
ReplyDeleteUniversal Auto World
ReplyDeleteSo, in other words, Auto Caliphate?
Is it wrong I find the most amusing thing the "FART" cloud?
ReplyDeleteJesus, you guys, it's been a fuck of a week. A week ago today Mom went into a local Urgent Care thing to get the edema in her ankles looked at - she was also having shortness of breath and chest pain, so she was shipped out to the ER. She gets there and they keep her there a couple days, looking at the info that the UC things sent and doing some tests of their own. Turns out she has something on her lung; the X-ray didn't pick it up but the CAT scan did. They took a biopsy yesterday (before kicking her back out to her car) and we were hoping it was just mold or something from the shitty house we left but it ain't looking good - we'll know something definite in the next couple days.
Whee! Have we FUCKING HIT BOTTOM YET.
They occasionally say negative things about America. God's Greatest Country Ever.
ReplyDeleteAmazing!
ReplyDeleteYou tell me, if I keep poking this hornet's nest, they might come out and sting me en masse?
Pshaw!
and while drunk
ReplyDeleteSo, what, about 20 hours out of the day for these folks, right?
It's really not the equivalent at all. The whole point is that France has its own long and complicated tradition of caricature. The Charlie Hebdo cartoons that look straightforwardly racist to American eyes aren't necessarily so in their own context. I'm not an expert on this by any means, but this is what I've heard from non-white Francophones who are anti-racist activists. And this is supported by examples like Christiane Taubira, the French justice minister who was the subject of one of the allegedly racist cartoons. She's been a very strong anti-racist force in France. She also gave a eulogy to one of the Charlie Hebdo victims and tweeted "La France est Charlie." Meanwhile, she sued the National Front--which made the comment that Charlie Hebdo was parodying in its cartoon--for hate speech. Similarly, Dominique Sopo, the president of SOS Antiracisme in France, came out and blasted the idea that Charlie Hebdo was racist and vehemently defended them.
ReplyDeleteDoes this mean no one is allowed to think of the cartoons as racist? No, of course not--people get to disagree about these things, and Sopo and Taubira don't get the final word on anything. But it's pretty ridiculous for an American to say or imply that there's no reasonable and honest disagreement possible, in the face of prominent French POC anti-racists saying otherwise.
Also, Derelict's idea that the cartoons are "provoking" Muslims to be violent is just insulting to Muslims, and I say this as a half-Muslim.
Of course, fertilizer plants blowing up are the fault of Goodhair Perry and his lasseiz faire bullshit, but, hey folks, don't let that stop you from investing in Texas with your heavy explodey industry because something something shut up!
ReplyDeleteSimple cartoon training - Pick up any book on cartooning from, say, about 1950 or so. Turn to the section on "Around The World". DON'T DO THE THINGS SHOWN THERE. Unless you like justifiably riling up people who've expected things to change in the last six or so decades, the fools.
ReplyDeleteI think it has a ton of truth to it. Criticize Charlie Hebdo stuff all you want, but there's a big difference between criticizing all religions (including minority ones, which some people argue should be mocked differently/with sensitivity) and explicitly singling Islam and Arabs out as an existential threat to the West while treating Christianity as sacrosanct.
ReplyDeleteIt's just a bunch of childish tastelessness cobbled together with the intent to offend, not inform.
ReplyDeletebut but but it offends BAD PEOPLE, so therefore we win! Or something.
I would love for the Gellarites and the jihadis to settle their differences, Warriors style, maybe somewhere between the Muslim terrorist stronghold of Mexico and the paranoid cowboy HQ in Dallas. So, let's say Midland, TX. They can bomb, beat and shoot each other in droves. The world will be a better place. And Midland would look no worse for wear.
ReplyDeleteI've already heard some comments along the lines of "HURR HURR, the reason why no bystanders were killed was because this happened in Texas, and not some weakling place like New York or France!! They should have known better than to try it there!" And when I gently pointed out it was the police/trained security who shot them, they insisted the ballistics would show it was in fact the brave 2nd amendment heroes standing by who shot them.
ReplyDeletePermit me to ramble.
ReplyDeleteThe local library had a book sale ("YESH!") this weekend, and I was fortumate enough to pick up a copy of Richard Hofstadter's The Paranoid Style in American Politics, the last essay of which is an account of "Coin" Harvey and the fight in the 1850-1870's for Free Silver.
Now, you guys might know what Free Silver refers to, but I'm betting the average American hasn't a clue. Tying silver coinage to the value of gold, though, was almost a life or death issue back then - their equivalent of ISIL or Islamofascism. Ending a fixed ratio of the two metals would collapse not only the American economy but destroy the American experiment! Alarums and excursions and all like that there.
It's fascinating for me right now because it happened. The plug was pulled, the button was pushed - and we not only came out of it essentially intact, but what was such a vital issue of the day is, now, hardly even remembered. And, call me defeatist or whatever, I can't help but wonder if people 150 years from now will look back at Pammy's hyperventilating and wonder what the big tsimmis was with this person.
I think you're misconstruing something here. When the people doing the shooting are Muslims who state rather specifically that the drawings did, indeed, provoke their violence, it's difficult for me to put that aside and think, "Oh, they must have started shooting for some other reason."
ReplyDeleteOnce again, Pere, I don't know whether to vote up or down.
ReplyDeleteHere's praying that it's a bit of nothing and life starts looking up for you two.
She's the co-founder of the American Freedom Defense Initiative
ReplyDeleteI thought defending American Freedom was the job of the Armed Forces*. Is Geller suggesting the Troops aren't up to the task?
That's only because we will all be living under Sharia-Fascism by then and we won't be allowed to talk about it.
ReplyDeleteShe's saying they just don't have her initiative.
ReplyDeletea salary for Geller of $200,000
ReplyDelete$200K for spewing hate and sucking down box wine?
I am obviously in the wrong business.
I've already largely expressed this sentiment elsewhere in this thread. On the other hand, what is their criticism of all religions meant to accomplish? Does Marine Le Pen tremble because Charlie Hebdo made fun of the Trinity? Is the Socialist Party rethinking some of its economic policy blunders because Charlie Hebdo printed a mean cartoon about mohels? Are the disaffected youths of North African extraction, currently packed into projects with few prospects, suddenly liberated from same because Charlie Hebdo yelled "Islam is stupid" from a lofty perch?
ReplyDeleteNow, [INSERT OBLIGATORY DENUNCIATION OF VIOLENT RESPONSE HERE]. But I reserve the right to be irritated if a French analogue of National Lampoon gets to act as if its whole shtick is nothing but speaking truth to power.
Oh, come on, Ted Cruz doesn't have that good a shot at becoming President.
ReplyDeleteWill Auto Caliphate beat the low price quote I got from the Auto-Da-Fe down the street?
ReplyDeleteThat's something that might actually be worth paying $100 for pay-per-view.
ReplyDeleteA reading from the Second Epistle of Rand Paul to the Gellarites: Take up thy sword and go ye now to Midland.
ReplyDeleteIs Geller suggesting the Troops aren't up to the task?In Texas, at least, they're siding with the oppressors, remember?
ReplyDelete$200K for spewing hate and sucking down box wine?"I'm here to denounce Islam and drink box wine ... and I'm fresh outta wine."
ReplyDeleteI am obviously in the wrong business.$200K out of total revenues of $960K. Not even Franklin Graham pockets that kind of percentage.
You have to remember the rightwing Paradox of Defense: America's military is the best in the world and second to none. Which is why it will fold like a cheap lawnchair the instant someone from ISIS sets foot on American soil. Thus, we all need to be terrified at all times because we'll soon be conquered and subjected to Shari (if we aren't already living under it).
ReplyDeleteNot to nit-pick and get off topic, but how can a person be "half-Muslim"? Isn't that like being half-Lutheran or half-Buddhist? I don't think religious belief is something you're innately born with. (However, if you were just using it as shorthand to say that one of your parents is Muslim, then I get what you mean.)
ReplyDeleteWell, that's certainly why Al Gore is pro-jihad.
ReplyDeletewe'll soon be conquered and subjected to Shari (if we aren't already living under it).IYKWIMAITYD.
ReplyDeleteSay what you will about Midland, at least it's nicer than Odessa. (Odessa is the town for the roughnecks, Midland is the pleasant hamlet for the managers.)
ReplyDeleteSure, but Mazel-Tits Geller is a piker compared to Princess Dumbass of the Northwoods. Her PAC has taken in millions of dollars, and spent a few thousand on actual candidates. All the rest apparently goes to "administrative" costs including Caribou Barbie's wardrobe and living expenses.
ReplyDeleteYes. it's also the ancestral homeland of the Bush Texas Conversion, both the reason you gave and the GW connection make Midland the perfect place.
ReplyDeleteOh, sure, Palin showed how it's really done. I think we'd have to go back to Aaron Burr to find another vice-presidential candidate so blatantly trying to profit from it.
ReplyDeleteIts probably more likely that it is an exurban wasteland of a strip mall--no real crowd, no bystanders.
ReplyDeleteHerman Cain got 999 emails, but mine ain't one.
ReplyDeleteYou'll just have to take it on faith that they can beat that price.
ReplyDeletewe'll soon be conquered and subjected to Shari
ReplyDeleteNOT MY SISTER *ugh*
The "Best of Cain"?
ReplyDeleteCan a file have negative bytes?
I suspect my late, lamented boss who I used to spar with about politics. I think he signed me up for every conservative list he could find and the email has just been being passed from rubeherd to rubeherd over the years.
ReplyDeleteWhat's today -- Tuesday?
ReplyDeleteGene Wilder is a fascist?
ReplyDeleteI don't know how you can be "half Muslim". Is that a sect of Islam? I see how you could be "half Egyptian" or something, but how does one be half of a religion? It's not hereditary.
ReplyDeleteDon't even have to go back that far.
ReplyDeleterubeherd
ReplyDeleteI am sooooo stealing this word!
I think those are called underbytes.
ReplyDeleteYou're welcome to. I like to make up _____herd's because Tolkien calling his Ents treeherds has always made me giggle a bit.
ReplyDeleteTrouble is that, unlike the Ents, the rubes have plenty of wives and offspring.
ReplyDeletePerhaps Geller's gathering was a rubesmoot?
The subtext is plainly there in Young Frankenstein.
ReplyDeleteIt seems to me the net effect of something like CB isn't to make a specific politician tremble or support specific policy, but to signal to all people, "Look, you don't need to treat any leader reverently. You don't even need to believe God Himself matters." From one angle they appear childish, or maybe useless to the disaffected, but from another, they make and sustain a free society. And how this gets done/what it means highlights just how hard it's gonna be for, say, Saudi Arabia to ever be free in our lifetime (not that SA has shown much interest in being free).
ReplyDeleteI mean, it would be revolutionary if some Saudi Hebdo took to a minaret and in place of the call to prayer sang "Islam is stupid"; it might be tedious to see CB shout this every week in France, but it can also be taken as ongoing, neverending revolution. Arguably it helps keep France free; indisputably it would liberate poor and rich alike if it happened in Saudi Arabia without death and imprisonment resulting. We'd have a very different, and I think much better, planet going on, with more Hebdoes.
She defends her First Amendment right to prevent Muslims from exercising theirs/
ReplyDeleteWell, they'd be irresponsible with it, y'know!
ReplyDeleteI like rubesmoot. Unfortunately those seem to happen much more often.
ReplyDeleteWell, but Agnew's crime was using the governorship of Maryland to enrich himself. I'm talking someone who gets chosen as vice president, then uses that candidacy for self-enrichment, a la Sarah Palin and her shopping sprees.
ReplyDeleteI'd go with this, but Hebdo's approach is so juvenile that whatever message it's trying to get across is lost in its crassness.
ReplyDeleteCosts more but Auto Eroticism gets the job done.
ReplyDeleteWhen ISIL (riiiight) showed up, li'l Pammy got exactly what she wanted. Bet she had a terrorgasm™ you could hear in Lubbock...
ReplyDeleteYeah, I don't remember if it was Sen. Huckleberry Butch-Me-Up or Sen. Flyboy who said ISIS was an existential threat to the US. But no one called him on how a bunch of light infantry with technicals and no air power or navy could remove the ole' US of A from existence.
ReplyDeleteDon't forget the 2-for-1 Jiffylube codeshare special!
ReplyDeleteDid you look at the actual drawings?
ReplyDeletethis is quite good, I think:
http://media.breitbart.com/media/2015/04/muhammed-sword-winner.png
Needs moar fang...
ReplyDeleteThe Wingnut Welfare society works in strange ways...
ReplyDeleteMy snark cannot keep up with reality:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/lindsey-grahams-unfortunate-beef-the-word-the?cid=sm_fb_maddow
And that right hand makes my pinky cringe. Also too: SUBTLE.
ReplyDeleteAfter reading the comments at mediaite my brain needs washing - heading for the 15 yr old rum .
ReplyDelete“We don’t organize contests, we just do our work,” Gerard Biard added. “We comment on the news. When Muhammad [pops up] in the news, we draw Muhammad. But if he didn’t, we didn’t — we don’t.”
ReplyDeleteYou can try to explain this exotic concept of "work" to Pammy, but I'm pretty sure she's not gonna get it.
You left "The Weather" off your list.
ReplyDeleteThe handprints of fascism are all over the Oompa Loompa organization.
ReplyDelete"Defending the West" she says. I think the West has gotten all the favors from her that it can fucking stand.
ReplyDeletePort Arthur. Last one into the ship channel's a beta feminazi lover.
ReplyDeleteThe bar is set pretty high.
ReplyDeleteFrance also has its own long and complicated tradition in North Africa that includes things like recurring crimes against humanity. That gives Le Charlie special panache.
ReplyDeleteBarry Sotero is living proof it's possible. You're reading entirely the wrong blogs.
ReplyDeleteWell yeah, not everyone can be as responsible as she is.
ReplyDeleteWhy did Wolverine grow a Hitler 'stache?
ReplyDeleteI think she may be closer to GG Allin (birth name Jesus Christ Allin)
ReplyDeleteNice crescent & star on his forehead too.
ReplyDeleteAnd now for some vastly broad generalizations:
ReplyDeleteThe French favor assimilation and don't even have the constitutional structures to support minoritarian politics.
Their colonialism was distinctly different from the British system that still influences American thinking very strongly. The French taught their colonial subjects to be French, regardless of however irrelevant Frenchness was to a child in West Africa. There was no better thing that anyone could be and the colonies were intended to an amazingly great extent to manufacture more French people, whatever their ancestry.
The British never thought brown and black people could be British - they were just too different (inferior) - and now the British emphasize roots and diversity for immigrant populations. You'll be what your ancestors were and just speak English, however quaintly, while the British put up with you on their turf. Nationalist Americans can barely manage as much.
The counter to American nationalism has been The Melting Pot, which is actually quite French in concept - newcomers blend in by becoming faux WASPs. In recent years, we've begun speaking of The Stew Pot, a concept that's actually quite British. No one changes; they just coexist.
The French don't collect ethnic and racial demographics because they don't think that's the proper business of the government. They genuinely accept "outsiders" IF they're devoted to being thoroughly French. But immigrants from Francophonia who want to keep their traditions are disliked, seen as a danger to the Republic, and a danger to Frenchness itself.
As for religion, the French think it is a personal matter, not something the state should even know about. It's something one does in private if one does it at all. France's Enlightenment secularism is mystified by Islam and the expectations Muslims have for a civic life that accommodates religiosity.
All concepts of "race" are social constructions. If the dominant culture perceives being Muslim as being a race, than being "half-Muslim" makes sense, to the extent that any of it makes sense. I've been labeled "half-Jewish" even though I was raised with no Jewish identity, do not self-identify as Jewish, have never been a practicing Jew, and by Jewish tradition don't even qualify (Dad, not mom). Muslims have been "racialized" even though it's a religion.
ReplyDeleteI go with rubewaddells cause that guy was kind of crazy and not very smart
ReplyDeleteIt's a little known fact that "How I Did It" was the working title of Mein Kampf.
ReplyDeleteI kind of get what you're saying, but then doesn't that mean that everyone who "looks like" a certain stereotype can be defined as a certain religion — a belief system</em?— not just a "race" (however you want to define that)? Does that mean every blond, blue-eyed, vaguely Germanic person is Lutheran, not just Nordic? Or if they have brown hair and look a bit like Albrecht Dürer, does that make them Catholic? Are all Ethiopians animist instead of maybe Ethiopian Orthodox because that's "how they look"?
ReplyDeleteI mean, I get what you're saying, but I refuse to accede to that kind of sloppy thinking just because it's mainstream.
Wrong Manson.
ReplyDeleteI find it horribly amusing, sorta, that Pam thinks Texas has her back. My parents were married for 68 years, and until they passed away I hadn't realized (long story) that my Texas relatives referred to my mother as "The one who married the Jew."
ReplyDeleteIf I had to pick a word for 'em, it'd be "Gellarians", because it has more of a Plan 9 From Outer Space sound, and I wish I could say "they're not from around here". Unfortunately...
ReplyDeleteMaybe they meant the Dallas cops were just better shots...
ReplyDeleteI wonder if he sicced the TSG on Jade Helm to avoid just that. If so, he can never admit it...
ReplyDeleteI think back in Aaron Burr's day, vice-presidential candidates were not chosen by the nominated presidential candidate, but campaigned and were nominated independently. Whereas, John McCain merely pointed at Sarah Palin and intoned "It's alliiive!" as the lightning crackled. I do not know why I sometimes feel like defending Aaron Burr. I just have this image of me saying to Palin, a la Lloyd Bentsen, "You, ma'am, are no Aaron Burr".
ReplyDeleteI think back in Aaron Burr's day, vice-presidential candidates were not
ReplyDeletechosen by the nominated presidential candidate, but campaigned and were
nominated independently.Officially, this was true: each elector cast two ballots, and first place got president, while second place got vice president. But political parties almost immediately upset this fruit cart, so that in 1800 both Adams and Jefferson had de facto running mates (Pinckney and Burr). Whereupon the obvious problem occurred, as every elector cast his two ballots for both members of the ticket ... leading to a Jefferson-Burr tie, and Burr's attempt to get the tie decided in his favor. Which was just one of many times ol' Aaron was looking out for Aaron first.
On the other hand, he probably wasn't aiming to mortally wound Hamilton, and it wasn't his fault that the guy with the sandwich hadn't bought more milk.
I've heard of how Palin hunts. At least Burr could HIT Hamilton.
ReplyDeleteWell, to be fair, the whole endeavour is pretty unsubtle. A subtle Draw Mohammed would just be "here is a dude who looks fairly Middle Eastern". And I gather that there were a number of such entries, and they make their own point that even prophets and national heroes were pretty much just some dude, but it's hardly going to play in French Peoria.
ReplyDeleteWell, you see, thanks to his Healing Factor, he can't actually shave; the hair grows back faster than he can cut it off. And he just has the most awfully unfortunate natural hair growth pattern. The time he said "Providence shows no mercy to weak nations, but recognizes the right of existence only of sound and strong nations, bub," didn't help.
ReplyDeleteWill they wonder, or will they just go "ah, she was pretty fuckin' racist, like the people now who don't like the Andorians"?
ReplyDeleteI remember reading about the Cross of Gold speech, and thinking "that sounds like a vicious rebuke to people who prize money more than people and is as such relevant to my interests", and it turned out to be "no it's still not a literal cross but it is actually literal gold". I was disappointed. I hoped for something with lasting relevance.
I would have been happy with "the entire area falls into the sun".
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