Wednesday, November 05, 2014

MORNING BETTING LINE OF IMPEACHMENT ARTICLES:

9-1:   Miscegenation with Hitlery
7-1:   Questioning the tax-exempt status of non-partisan Obama-fighting organizations
6-1:   Treason by not sending The Expendables with jet-packs to fight ISIS
5-1:   FEMA camps (special guest appearance by Colin Powell to show us where they are)
4-1:   Treason by making Marines hold umbrellas over him, thus leaving America defenseless
5-3:   Treason by sending Central American child-moocher-soldiers to invade the Confederacy
2-1: #Benghazi
1-3: #Benghazi Plus (e.g., Obama did #Benghazi so he could get with Chris Stevens' boyfriend, for a golf bet, etc.)
1-5:   Resisting arrest

If there's time, we'll also see the Anti-Witchcraft Act, the Mandatory Fracking Amendment, and the National Apology for Reconstruction. But mainly they'll spend the first few months tunneling under the Mall and attaching a giant Hoover to the Treasury to suck public money out of Big Gummint control and into the pockets of their campaign contributors. Priorities!

Ah, my dears, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

UPDATE. Ugh -- okay, who's the person you least want to hear from on this topic? (Besides the troll in the thread, I mean, and I swear I didn't create him just so my brilliant commenters would have something to do.)

Give up? Surprise, it's Megan McArdle, who tells us the President was too high-handed with the Republicans in 2009, instead of generously offering to work with them on their shared goal of providing Americans with a national health care system, and "his presidency has never recovered from that mistake." If only he'd been more conciliatory!

Oh, and according to McArdle Obama's not the only Democrat to blame:
The Tea Party Republicans who unnecessarily brought the government to a halt, and double-unnecessarily cost their own party many key elections, have much to answer for. But the Democrats who helped create them have some accountability, too.
You gotta admit, it takes some crust for a Koch celebrant to blame American politics' biggest astroturf boondoggle on the Democratic Party.

Then McArdle says Obama should now work with the Republicans so Hillary will have an easier time of it in 2016 -- you know, the way Clinton's cooperation with Gingrich paved the way for the Al Gore Administration. Then she waves impeachment like a stick to punish naughty Obama --
The American public might view an impeachment over policy with less distaste than they did an impeachment over intern nookie. And if they remember the lessons of 1998, and decline to take the bait --
[Pause here to ask: Lessons of 1998? Who on God's green earth looks back at the Clinton impeachment and thinks, "God, why didn't we nail him when we had the chance"?] 
-- Obama could find his favorables in a Bush-style free fall that dooms his putative Democratic successor. If I were an adviser, I’d counsel against taking this course. But then, I am cautious by nature.
"Cautious" is a polite word for it.

491 comments:

  1. Plus, he hangs the toilet paper rolls in the White House in the incorrect, under-hanging manner, which has brought disgrace to the people's house... Issa is ready with the subpoenas...

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  2. What, no elitist chai salute?

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  3. reposted from yesterthread:

    It's 1994 all over again. Now we get to see the stupid Snoopy dance
    of the wingnuts, undoubtedly complete with squealing about a "mandate"
    and "revolution", probably new announcements that the country is
    ACTUALLY conservative and we should accept that, and impeachment
    proceedings starting in February.

    And the next Tim McVeigh will
    feel empowered by the anti-government rhetoric and the victory of
    ammosexual Ernst and will be out shopping for ammonium nitrate over the
    winter. Whee.

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  4. Derelict9:12 AM

    In all seriousness, conservatives already have a list of what they believe are impeachable offenses. The IRS "scandal" is just a small part of it. Most of it rests on obstruction of justice charges that come from all the other "scandals."

    Which is very convenient for them since they don't have to prove that, say, Benghazi was or involved any sort of crime. They just have to claim that there are documents somewhere that the White House is not turning over. That makes up the articles of impeachment, and off to the Senate we go.

    Despite the fact that the Senate will never convict, it will give conservatives 10 years from now plenty of fodder to say, "Look, every time there's a Democrat in the White House, he/she gets impeached. It's all just a lawless bunch of disgraceful losers with those Dems, so vote Republican!"

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  5. Derelict9:13 AM

    Terrorist fist-bumps is the order of the day, comrade.

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  6. "In preliminary exit polls of voters conducted by Edison Research, a
    large majority of voters described the national economy in negative
    terms and most said the United States economic system favored the
    wealthy."So they voted to re-elect Scott Walker, Rick Scott, Paul LePage, and Sam Brownback, put a loud-and-proud outsourcer into a Georgia Senate seat, and filled an Iowa seat long held by a New Deal liberal with a Koch meat puppet. Oh, and elected a superrich vulture capitalist who doesn't believe in the minimum wage as governor of Illinois. All because the Democrats didn't give them any alternative solutions other than supporting increasing the minimum wage, providing more affordable health insurance coverage, enacting more equal-pay-for-equal-work protections, and the like. But they didn't prosecute the banksters, they didn't embrace the rhetoric of inequality soon enough, and they made federal income taxes just barely more progressive while fetishizing deficit reduction ... which voters also claim is vitally important.



    Yup, the takehome lesson is that when Dems run from being Dems, as in Kentucky and Georgia, they lose. Except when they win, as in Virginia. But when they embrace being Dems, as in Colorado and, to a lesser extent, North Carolina, they ... still lose. Except when they win, as in Oregon. Regardless, I guess we'll see how heightening the contradictions between parties without a dime's worth of difference works out. My guess is that most people won't notice the difference in having both houses of Congress do nothing except investigate horseshit allegations and seeing how many times they can pass a repeal of the PPACA meant to replace the Medicare expansion with fuck-all. Hey, maybe now that Joni "Privatize the Social Security Ponzi Scheme" Ernst is off to the Senate, she can spearhead a belated acceptance of the chained-CPI "grand bargain," which is practically the same thing somehow.

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  7. Upvoted because there's no upchuck arrow.

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  8. M. Krebs9:24 AM

    Oh, well. At least Obama still has the military. I was going to say the Justice Department too, but he'll probably have to nominate Ashcroft's corpse to get an AG confirmed.

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  9. Ubu Imperator9:30 AM

    Let's not forget the 3-2: Governing while black.

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  10. Derelict9:32 AM

    Back when I did political consulting, nearly all of my clients were Republicans. (A handful were Democrats who managed to get on the ticket as Republicans, but that's another story.) From a marketing standpoint, the differences between the parties was stark. When I'd sit down with a Republican, they could articulate a very clear set of ideas on what they wanted to accomplish, and what they believed in. All of those things were abhorrent, but they were articulated nonetheless.

    The Democrats who wanted to hire me were hopeless. They believed in ending discrimination, but don't quote them on that. They wanted to make the tax structure more fair, but we can't discuss that during the campaign. What it all invariably came down to was, "I can't take any position on anything because then I would have a position."

    And so we have Democrats consistently running away from being Democrats. Well guess what: As Harry Truman noted, when you give the people a choice between a Republican and a Republican, they pick the Republican every time.

    If we're gonna lose, we should at least lose while clearly stating who we are and what we believe in.

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  11. Derelict9:33 AM

    I thought the subpoenas were toilet paper.

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  12. randomworker9:33 AM

    Yes, what is the return on the $4 billion investment going to be? It's usually pretty good! Maybe they will bring back all the old mercenary grifters like Blackwater's Erik Prince and pay them to pretend to fight ISIS.

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  13. Derelict9:35 AM

    And another thing: Is it at all possible to disband the DLC? For the last 20 years (with the small bright break provided by Howard Dean), the DLC has refused to spend money in races where a win isn't guaranteed. THAT has to change, and getting rid of the DLC is the first step.

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  14. Provider_UNE9:36 AM

    ...of the money, by the money, for the money, shal not perish from this earth...

    It won't be long before they even have to pretend otherwise.

    3 of the 4 estates now wholly owned subsidiaries of the John Birch Society.
    ...

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  15. M. Krebs9:44 AM

    DNC?

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  16. Derelict9:44 AM

    Also, too.

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  17. Derelict9:47 AM

    If the billionaire owner of the TV station on which a millionaire political reporter thinks eliminating the Estate Tax and cutting the top bracket down to 15% are good things, I'm pretty sure the millionaire political reporter won't be doing pieces on the misery of poverty or why making the tax system more progressive is a good thing.

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  18. Halloween_Jack9:47 AM

    Pat Quinn isn't conceding to Bruce Rauner until all the early/absentee votes are counted, but I think he's dreaming. Apparently, my state has gone back to wanting a GOP governor who makes big promises about straightening out the state financial mess without saying how he's actually going to do it, also without being willing to keep the very modest income tax increase that Quinn pushed through. My sole consolation is that at least we didn't elect someone quite as bad as Joni Ernst. (Or re-elect someone like Scott Walker or Rick Scott.)

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  19. susanoftexas9:52 AM

    I think we did. We clearly stated that we are Democrats who believed in winning elections.

    Everything else we supposedly believe in was considered a barrier to winning elections. Republicans' beliefs help them win elections. We win a little, we lose a little, but throughout it we are all deeply and carefully kept under control.
    And nothing will change because we know that our existence depends on not throwing over that control. We survived Bush and Cheney; we can survive anything. But we can't take control of our own lives until we are willing to give up everything we have. So we will do nothing and let our kids suffer the repercussions.

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  20. Stef Barload9:59 AM

    Welcome to the Republican Party libtards

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  21. Provider_UNE10:00 AM

    Absatively right. I remember reading that tweety makes north of five million a year.

    ...

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  22. randomworker10:00 AM

    /yawn

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  23. justicewasserved10:01 AM

    hey provider, you still sucking on the nipple of the gov't?

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  24. justicewasserved10:02 AM

    overturn this big boy!!! We love Iowa

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  25. justicewasserved10:02 AM

    get a job, pay taxes and join us

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  26. edroso10:04 AM

    per Disqus: "posted 273 COMMENTS... got 155 FLAGS." Is this really how you want to be remembered?

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  27. How are things in New Jersey, Tom?

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  28. edroso10:06 AM

    Right, out you go. Now go cry to your friends that you were "censored."

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  29. The blood will be on your hands this time, sonny. You're not going to do the "but but but we just spoke our minds" shit this time.

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  30. Oh, I get it. Only Republicans work. (We also hate families and Jesus).


    I keep forgetting how simple the world looks to political true believers.

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  31. Provider_UNE10:09 AM

    Dennis/Sally, So nice to see you again. Where have you been hiding out lately?
    Basking in a luxurious hot tub in Ferguson, Mo. I presume?

    ...

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  32. Apparently, my state has gone back to wanting a GOP governor who makes
    big promises about straightening out the state financial mess without
    saying how he's actually going to do it,

    You're in Maryland?

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  33. Yes, because impeachment worked so well for them the last time. They meant for their Great White Hope to have slink out of Congress. It was all part of a cunning plan to ... Uh. Something.

    I'm not saying they won't do it, I'm just saying there will be a repeat of all the dick-treading with extra large clown shoes because the GOP has gotten loonier.

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  34. Professor Fate10:16 AM

    sorry no thanks. I like my soul.

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  35. M. Krebs10:18 AM

    Heh. I do believe justice was just served.

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  36. And there was much rejoicing!

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  37. Provider_UNE10:21 AM

    Illinois, I believe.

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  38. M. Krebs10:22 AM

    You know, I remember the '86 midterms when all the GOP senate candidates were grilled on whether they had voted for W. So it all evens out I guess.

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  39. Provider_UNE10:23 AM

    That mason/dixson line creeps ever northward.
    ...

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  40. Unforgivable blackitude and Kenyan anti-colonial rage.

    D'spicable d'Souza d'scrimination.

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  41. Derelict10:24 AM

    We can give in to despair, or we can figure out how to fight. I'm much more inclined toward the latter.

    So, I'll ask here: Any interest in starting a blog where all of us deep-blue enthusiasts can discuss ways to drag out party back toward its core beliefs?

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  42. Derelict10:25 AM

    I think you mean '06. C+Agustus was still throwing up into garbage cans back then.

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  43. susanoftexas10:26 AM

    You mean "Welcome to the Tea Party." We're going to spend the next few years watching Republicans lose their party to the Koches and other billionaires. Your party is gone. Nobody cares about 99.9% of white men anymore. They are too poor. You look at the rich and they look like you and you think you are one of them but when they see you, they see a loser. A minority, a woman, a liberal, a white man with a dinky salary and a mortgaged house--all the same.
    Everything you care about is gone. The billionaires want immigration--it keeps wages low and the very poor in line, and gives the stupids someone to hate.
    Your jobs are gone, to whomever can underbid China. American workers are passé--everyone else will work for less money. That goes for the upper class as well. They are now lumped in with the poor--too far away from real wealth and power to count. Many of their jobs can be replaced or automated; it's already happening.
    Your infrastructure, social services, anything that eases life for those who are not of the .01%--they are disappearing too.
    All gone, thanks to your idiotic belief that you are one of the chosen, that you are special. Sorry. You're just another poor loser who gets to hand over his work, money and life to the rich. And your entire life's wealth will all be blown on one trip to Paris with their mistresses.

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  44. Derelict10:27 AM

    He has the military for now. I think it was only last week that some Fox talking heads were calling for the Joint Chiefs of Staff to openly defy the president and declare they would not follow his orders.

    But, I guess nothing says FREEDOM like living under a junta.

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  45. We'll see if Brauner ends up as Braunback, you have my condolences.

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  46. That's rich, considering red states are the ones not paying taxes.

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  47. Provider_UNE10:30 AM

    Can we call it "Hearding Cats"?

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  48. Derelict10:32 AM

    That'd be purrfect.

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  49. Helmut Monotreme10:33 AM

    It will be fine. It will be a rough patch, but Rome wasn't burnt in a day.

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  50. Bring on the impeachment! I look forward to republicans ruining any slice of goodwill the voters may have shown them. When they spend a good chunk of the next two years dog whistling about president blacktop mcblackenstein, the public will be throughly disgusted. At least we can hope.

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  51. We love Iowa
    [Singing] U-ni-ted Fed'ral Savings ... Bank.


    Wait, they went into receivership in 1991. Never mind.


    Oh, well, at least there's apparently a push for a Harold Hughes memorial at the state capitol. Presumably the statue will be face-palming.

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  52. susanoftexas10:33 AM

    Yes. But the party does not want to be dragged back to its core beliefs and either ignores or strangles us. Doesn't it make more sense to form a party that we can use as leverage? The tea party method works.

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  53. I would join, just for the chance of getting a t-shirt.

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  54. Paul_D10:35 AM

    I'm in Maryland, and that's spot on.
    It's a great day for smug assholes in Federal Hill and Canton.

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  55. Derelict10:36 AM

    The Tea Party wasn't really a third party. Setting the non-stop grifting aspect of it aside, it was used as a tool to drag the GOP further to the right than it was. I think we need something like that, but a third party ain't the way.

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  56. susanoftexas10:37 AM

    Get a minimum wage job, pay your taxes over to the loser red states, and join us losers.

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  57. susanoftexas10:38 AM

    Yes, it is a tool and we need a hammer. What else can we use to show we have power?

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  58. I seriously doubt that they're even going to try to impeach. That talk was classic red meat for the base, i.e. the shit they lie about to their own base. It's amazing to me that after twenty years that shit still flies, but it do.

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  59. redoubtagain10:39 AM

    "We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again." Nathaniel Greene
    (And Mr. President--fill that veto ink pen; you're going to need it. A lot.)

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  60. If we're gonna lose, we should at least lose while clearly stating who we are and what we believe in.The flipside of this is that Joni Ernst decided she had to lie about her beliefs in order to win. So did Cory Gardner.

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  61. It works for people who are shit-scared of black people and are just plain mean. Someone - maybe it was you? - observed that the people pulling the lever for R really do think the world will end if their guy doesn't win. In part because they buy all the talk about President Oogabooga letting terrorists in the country to slit our throats.

    But also because their candidates run on the Put the Hurt on Those People platform. The number of Democrats who'd go for the Blue equivalent of the Tea Party (whatever that would be) just isn't that high.

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  62. 4-1 you'll hear birther rhetoric on a politician's lips within a month.

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  63. susanoftexas10:42 AM

    That wasn't me, although that might be true.
    Democrats will run on The Hurt if they are told to do so, and if it wins elections. We can do almost anything as long as we win. The last elections taught me that.

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  64. Hmmph! Well if you won't send us to fight ISIL and Syria and whoever else Sara Palin says we should fight, we'll just go ourselfs!

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  65. As I've said before, you can only throw so much red meat before you have to act on the emotions you've been stoking.

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  66. Derelict10:44 AM

    From your lips to the goddess's ear.

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  67. susanoftexas10:44 AM

    Where/What is our power? We must have a source of power. We don't have party funds, lot of people, an organizational system, a goal and purpose. What will be the source of our power if we do not use the threat of withholding our votes?

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  68. redoubtagain10:45 AM

    The Republican Party: "If it ain't broke, break it. Once it's broke, stomp on it."

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  69. This is what Iowa decided to represent them:



    "With Ebola, we see he's very hands-off. He's not leading. He's not leeeaaading,"
    she said, drawing out that last word like a conjurer casting a spell. I
    suggested to her that, well, at that moment, one person in America --
    Dr. Craig Spencer -- had Ebola. Her eyes went hard, like the wheels of a
    slot machine fastening on tilt.

    "Well, you're the press. That's your opinion."

    Say what?

    "But that's not an opinion. It's a fact. Only one person in America has Ebola."

    "But he's not a leeaader," Ernst said, again. "What he can
    do is make sure that all of those agencies are coordinating together and
    make sure that he is sharing that information with the American people,
    that he cares about their safety."

    Ah, I thought. We are finally back to the conventional definition of
    "apathetic." This was what I'd wanted to know in the first place.

    "So he doesn't care about the people with the disease?" I asked.

    "I don't know that he does. He hasn't demonstrated that. I'm sorry. I'm done. Anybody else?"

    And then she was off. She had 21 more hours to go.

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  70. Provider_UNE10:45 AM

    Its funny to me when I read the last line in the voice of Daffy Duck.
    ...

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  71. Derelict10:47 AM

    Not so much lie as never be called upon to talk about them. As Charlie Peirce and others have pointed out, the media coverage of Ernst was all horse-race and personality crap, with little to no discussion of policies or positions. I think the average Iowan voter knows far more about Braley's neighbor's chickens than about Ernst's Agenda 21 paranoia.

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  72. (And Mr. President--fill that veto ink pen; you're going to need it. A lot.)What veto? The country has spoken, and now President Obama has no choice but to enact the entire GOP platform. You know, just like he was supposed to do in 2009, 2011, and 2013.

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  73. But hurt who? The GOP has a clear (and ever expanding) group of enemies who are mooching up all the money and using drugs and protesting civil rights abuses rioting in Ferguson.



    I guess we could have "Hurt greedy shitheads who sent your job to India and never pay taxes and caused you to lose your house," but if it hasn't happened yet, then is it going to happen?

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  74. Okay, everybody, go out and get your hands on Gene Wolfe's "Seven American Nights" for a taste of what a GOP led country will look like.

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  75. redoubtagain10:49 AM

    (She will, of course, be named to the Senate Subcommittee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions.)

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  76. Old people can just boot up the memory banks.

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  77. Brian Schlosser10:51 AM

    "Go ahead, throw your vote away! Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!" - Kang

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  78. Matt Jones10:51 AM

    If you want a preview of where we're headed, take a peek at Kansas. Brownback has literally destroyed the state's finances AND economy with handouts to the 1% and he just won reelection. More slash-n-burn to come, because the GOP motto is now apparently "government doesn't work, and if you elect us we'll prove it by fucking up everything on purpose".

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  79. I guess we could have "Hurt greedy shitheads who sent your job to India and never pay taxes and caused you to lose your house,"Senator-elect Perdue says hi, and Governor-elect Rauner is waving from the back.

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  80. Unfortunately, last night's electorate holds pretty much that exact belief.

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  81. susanoftexas10:52 AM

    That is the major obstacle here--we need to shut up to keep our jobs. When the economy gets worse-and it will-we will have enough poor people with nothing to lose to start fighting the rich but by then it might be too late.

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  82. Derelict10:52 AM

    I don't know what the answer is--that's why I'm thinking of starting a place where disgusted people like ourselves can do some serious spit-balling on exactly how to bring about the changes we want to see.

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  83. If the "Tea Party" were anything but a media fiction, this would have happened years ago. What did all that reform talk get them? A couple lost seats, a couple fresh new nutbars.

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  84. susanoftexas10:53 AM

    Heh, my vote is thrown away now.

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  85. Well, in the end days of the campaign, you might recall that she refused to talk to the Iowa media any more. To me that crosses from "never being called upon" to "actively concealing."

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  86. Brian Schlosser10:55 AM

    What else do they have to do? Govern?

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  87. susanoftexas10:56 AM

    We need art/media that attacks greed and the rich. We leave morality to the religious and they are too greedy to do it.

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  88. Derelict10:56 AM

    True that. Though I don't know why she shied away--Ted Yoho is demonstrably brain damaged, and even his constituents think he's loopy. But they vote for him despite that.

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  89. Actually, the midterm election results were about ethics in gaming journalism.

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  90. Basically, they voted to become serfs.

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  91. Okay, I can't fucking believe Brownback got reelected. Granted, it was a close election, and Brownback obviously got buoyed by the social con vote (even though he has little to do with anything they want). But even so...the state is broke. He tested out one of the great libertarian experiments, it failed miserably, and yet he has no intention of stopping it. Shit guys, what's he have to do?

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  92. Brian Schlosser10:58 AM

    I dunno... it forced Gore to run a campaign disavowing Clinton, and we see where that lead us (I mean, yeah, Florida was a shit show, but it never should have been that close)

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  93. Build up demo reels for their FNC reality shows.

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  94. Not a leader on Ebola? My brother Vincenzo is currently in 3-week quarantine after a tour of duty in Liberia constructing medical infrastructure.

    She's just chapped because the president's policy doesn't involve racist, self-defeating travel bans.

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  95. susanoftexas11:03 AM

    Start killing his constituents.

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  96. Brian Schlosser11:04 AM

    Such is the sad state of modern Trollery. I blame Obama.

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  97. Brian Schlosser11:07 AM

    heh,, indeed!

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  98. Brian Schlosser11:08 AM

    Well, the White House is saying the Prez is going to sign an "amnesty" order by December, so there's the causus impeachmentum right there.

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  99. susanoftexas11:09 AM

    And they'll love every minute of it, as they vicariously watch the Chrisleys spend money on tv while eating food packed with chemicals, sugar and fat.

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  100. That's the equivalent of the President sticking out his chin to his opponent and saying "You don't have the balls."

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  101. It's moved things to the right enough where Birthers are treated as respectable statesmen instead of loons who should be locked in an attic somewhere.

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  102. susanoftexas11:11 AM

    I'd be very happy to find an better way to get our priorities passed but nobody will give me one and I can't think of any other.

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  103. Brian Schlosser11:11 AM

    I agree. If he does it, I will be very proud of him.

    I hope he spends the next two years doing things like that. He literally has nothing to lose.

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  104. He kinda had a "Eh, fuck it" a few years back once the GOP all but announced their intention to be assholes. Unfortunately, we got so bogged down in Obamacare lawsuits and Benghazi-stravaganza that nothing came of it. Here's to hoping part two will be better.

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  105. That's right.


    The Tea Party people got to CALL themselves a party without actually BEING a third party. That's a neat trick.

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  106. No, it's "he's not a leeaaader". Presumably said in a simultaneously whiny and smug tone.

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  107. Derelict11:19 AM

    Maybe we can start here:

    Cat Herding in the Wilderness

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  108. tigrismus11:19 AM

    I bet she really does want Obama to be more "hands-on" with Ebola. Literally.

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  109. susanoftexas11:20 AM

    They aren't trying to be a third party, they are trying to get elected as Republicans. And they are winning lots of races. Once they get into office they are taught their manners but they are succeeding in pushing the party right.
    We are trying to do the same but are being undercut constantly. So are the tea partiers but they have billionaire backers and we don't. We have nothing--no power. So we lose.

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  110. Not up on my Social Studies - is there anything he can do about impeachment if they decide to stumble down that route?

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  111. Yeah, but as a native-born Iowan ... Well, first I want to say I'm so, so sorry. But I also want to say that there are still plenty of Iowans statewide who wouldn't actually approve if they knew, nor would have voted "R" no matter what. Odious as he is, even Branstad is no Vander Plaats.

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  112. susanoftexas11:21 AM

    (Link isn't working)

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  113. White adult male Republican constituents on film in front of other white witnesses, while wearing chaps and a rainbow tattoo on his ass.

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  114. Derelict11:25 AM

    Try the direct URL above. Dunno why the link ain't going where it's supposed to!

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  115. susanoftexas11:29 AM

    Live.

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  116. Well. I'm not sure if this is 100% relevant, but I've been thinking a lot about the Civil Rights Movement. You had people with little political or financial clout, about whom the general public gave not 1/4 of a fuck.

    I'm sure if someone had done a poll in 1968 asking if America would ever have a black president, 49% of answers would have been "Ha ha ha ha! Yeah right," and the other 49% would have been "You some kinda n****r lover?"

    I guess this is a long-winded way of saying that poor, disenfranchised, unpopular and powerless people have improved their plight before. And we'll do it again.

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  117. whetstone11:36 AM

    From IL, Rauner winning makes some sense. Quinn just barely survived Bill Brady (standard-issue downstate Republican), alienated union voters, cut programs in gov't-dependent downstate, and basically ran on the platform that the state's recovery will be slow and painful. So I can kind of see why Rauner's magic capitalist beans were appealing. And he blew off the slate of wingnut god-bothering social issues.

    Rick Scott: well, he was running against Charlie Crist.

    Brownback I don't get. Some electorates just want to watch the world burn, I guess. (Best theory I've seen: GOP going all out to save Roberts made the difference.)

    Joni Ernst will increase the number of disturbing farm metaphors in Washington by 1000%, so there's that at least.

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  118. gocart mozart11:37 AM

    FEMA camps: Are they pro or anti FEMA camp? He may be impeached for failure to put Ebola nurses in FEMA camps.

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  119. P_UNEy,

    What's up with Crean's team? Has he lost control? What's going there in B-town? Not good.

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  120. stepped_pyramids11:38 AM

    They need a two-thirds majority in the Senate to convict. Not happening.

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  121. susanoftexas11:39 AM

    Does it matter? He should be impeached for both, to punish his presumption for assuming authority over white people and so everyone understands perfectly who really has the power and who does not.

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  122. M. Krebs11:41 AM

    I dunno, man. Some of those goobers in the House are true believers.

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  123. It's a brand new morning in America. It's too bad there has to be losers in these matches. I'd like to extend an olive branch to all my libersl friends here. I hope we can work together now going forward to get things done. Let's all join hands and work to make for a better future, shall we?

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  124. They'll still bring impeachment proceedings to give their base boners, and the wingnut Wurlitzer will crank out stories about the "disgraced" Obama.

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  125. susanoftexas11:42 AM

    They had a great moral cause and a network of churches, a great leader and many more leaders just as good, and an organizational structure. Money is not everything.
    What do we have? We need to inventory.

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  126. M. Krebs11:43 AM

    Hey, you're actually smarter when you're sober.

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  127. No time to be angry, Derelict. Let's all work together to bring about positive change.

    Airplanes need both a left wing and a right wing to fly.

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  128. Happy, happy, happy, Krebs.

    I want to spread it around.

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  129. gocart mozart11:47 AM

    But will she be able to repeal Agenda 21? The world waits.

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  130. @chasrmartin: Attkisson: CBS Sat on Critical Benghazi Info, Protecting Obama Before 2012 Presidential Election http://t.co/xCEZiqoLXa

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  131. Oh, fuck, did it follow me here?

    Go play in the street, cretin.

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  132. M. Krebs11:50 AM

    Just a typo, I swear!

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  133. You assholes are going to be doing this shit all day, aren't you?

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  134. Mr. Wonderful11:52 AM

    I want him to "try to work with Republicans," and have McConnell over for tea, and go through the bipartisan motions, and never, ever deliver on it. Or at least I think I want that. Open defiance would be invigorating too, though.

    So maybe both: openly defy, privately tell them it's all for show, pretend to seek consensus, and in the end give them nothing. Yeah, that's the ticket.

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  135. edroso11:52 AM

    What else do they know? Besides the racial slurs, which I expect will come this afternoon.

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  136. Pere,

    Are you still shoveling snow way down South and cursing global warming?

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  137. edroso11:53 AM

    That's "#Benghazi," rr.

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  138. That's the one thing they'd get out of an impeachment hearing - media coverage. And since the House is basically a farm league for future Fox News talent at this point, that might actually fly.

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  139. What snow, shithead?

    The snow you've obviously been snorting?

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  140. No racism from me, Roy. Not ever.

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  141. KatWillow11:54 AM

    How about "50 State Strategy" ? Howard Dean is still alive.

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  142. It snowed in Columbia. In freaking October.

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  143. I thought it was *B*E*N*G*H*A*Z*I*!!!!11

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  144. susanoftexas11:55 AM

    Well, it's not like he has a real victory to celebrate. Republicans say that the government is incompetent but they just got more incompetent people into office.

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  145. edroso11:55 AM

    Sorry, my parent taught me never to take a troll at his word.

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  146. M. Krebs11:55 AM

    At this point it literally does not matter how awful Republican "governance" is. They've painted Democrats as nig[clang]-lovers and gay pedophiles for so long that they could run Charles Manson in some states and still win.

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  147. Not here, sonnyeh.

    Twy again. This time, wiv FEEEWING.

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  148. gocart mozart11:56 AM

    As long as he kills twice as many liberals as conservatives, they would approve of that too.

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  149. edroso11:56 AM

    That's the premium edition.

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  150. susanoftexas11:56 AM

    Watch out, Obama might send his Computer Police to travel through the intertubes and erase your post.

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  151. KatWillow11:56 AM

    Cats aren't that hard to heard: if you have a big bowl of tuna in one direction, and a pack of slavering rabid dogs in the other (yes, repugs), cats will choose the tuna. Democrat politicians will curl up in a ball and whimper.

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  152. Question: What encourages you to do this? It's not like you're going to win any converts spamming this stuff all over the place, and the downvote system means you're going to end up at the bottom of every page where no one can see you. Can't you find something productive to do, like writing a novel or jerking off?

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  153. Meaning everything's normal?

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  154. KatWillow11:57 AM

    And I'll design a t-shirt for free. A good logo or whatever, too.

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  155. What do you think of the Moral Monday actions?

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  156. Remember when the GOPer said that the deaths of all those New Yorkers in Independence Day was okay, since they were all liberals?

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  157. Understand.

    Hey, do you need any site monitors? Always wanted to be one.

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  158. sharculese11:57 AM

    So.. your crippling argument is that you're not totally clear on what elections are? I'm impressed.

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  159. susanoftexas11:58 AM

    Both sides do it!

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  160. KatWillow11:58 AM

    Kocks billions of dollars is what worked. tea party is a hoax.

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  161. sharculese11:58 AM

    This is what happens to your time when your an angry friendless manchild.

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  162. M. Krebs11:58 AM

    That's already happening, and most of the actual news media are playing along as usual.

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  163. It's "you're", Sharculese.

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  164. Honestly, Brownback won because the social cons love him. Contrary to popular opinion, this is not Jesusland, but those guys still have a lot of clout and they still have warm feeling from when he was a Senator. He could sell a couple counties to Hu Jintao and 90% of theocons would still vote for him.

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  165. KatWillow12:02 PM

    Describe this "better future".
    Is it a future where denying climate change will actually stop climate change?
    Where we can deal with massive drought by drilling wells into groundwater contaminated by fracking?
    Where it is always "Open Season" on young black men walking down the street?
    Where loosening safety and pollution regulations will make our country cleaner and safer for everyone? Where bombing and invading any country with "terrorists" in it is the norm?
    Where it .01% own 99% of everything instead of 75% of everything?

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  166. I love the way they get all indignant when people point this out. "We're fully independent and do not - Oh hang on, I have to accept this big packet of cash from ... my mom."

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  167. Terser version of some of my rambling sentiments:
    “So voters want a higher minimum wage, legal pot, abortion access and
    GOP representation,” tweeted FiveThirtyEight’s Ben Casselman. “Ok then.”Yup, pretty much. If they couldn't figure out where the parties stand on at least two out of those three, I don't know what's to be done.

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  168. Cheer up, Debbie Downer.

    Cmon, let's get to work making things better. Liberal blogs are for whiners and crybabies. Nothing good comes from them. Let's make it a good day.

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  169. sharculese12:05 PM

    This is the best rejoinder you're capable of crafting and you don't have the self-awareness to be embarrassed by that.

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  170. Bizarro Mike12:05 PM

    Serfs nominally are given food and safety from their liege, so I think the case in Kansas is worse.

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  171. susanoftexas12:06 PM

    I think it's amazing.

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  172. There's a bus leaving in twenty minutes. Be under it.

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  173. (Best theory I've seen: GOP going all out to save Roberts made the difference.)Sounds plausible. If you've been pursuaded away from your flirtation with an independent because he's really a demonic Jesus-hating Democrat in sheep's clothing, why would you vote for the actual Democrat elsewhere on the ballot?

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  174. sharculese12:07 PM

    Who could have guessed rr's biggest ambition in life was to be named Hall Monitor of the Year.

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  175. OH NOES MAH DELETE KEY IS EATIN MAH P

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  176. susanoftexas12:07 PM

    The next time a conservative says that they have respect for women and treat them appropriately I'll know he's lying.

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  177. KatWillow12:08 PM

    OMG. A Statement almost as stupid as Arglebargle or Loadpants make.

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  178. I c&p'd it. Not my error, roy.

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  179. You're overanalyzing, D.

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  180. susanoftexas12:10 PM

    And "We are a grass-roots organization! And we want to give thanks to Mr. Kibbe for all his hard work on organizing the protests and internet chapters."

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  181. The next time?

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  182. KatWillow12:10 PM

    But once dems win, they just sit on their asses. I think if Reid had returned the filibuster to its original intent, we might have passes some useful legislation, and thereby WON this election. All Dems had to do to keep winning is keep their admittedly vague promises.

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  183. sharculese12:10 PM

    Again, angry friendless manchild. Vicarious validation through people who aren't him achieving things is literally the only thing he has going.

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  184. I am. By the way, you type very fast with one hand.

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  185. This morning? Less than I did, honestly. But after the pain fades from watching one of Art Pope's Realdolls grab what was supposed to be one of our few bright spots, I'll remind myself that the arc of the universe is long.

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  186. Please wipe your feet thoroughly before entering the blog.

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  187. Thanks. On a freaking iPhone, too.

    Lots of practice.

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  188. I just held the door open for two women not 5 minutes ago. Smiled and said good morning and everything.

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  189. OK, why?

    (And should we be doing this on Herding Cats?)

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  190. susanoftexas12:20 PM

    Conservatives often think that keeping up the appearance of proper behavior is just as good as acting properly all the time. Public behavior must adhere to group standards but private behavior is ignored.

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  191. I bet.


    IYKWIMAITYD.

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  192. susanoftexas12:22 PM

    Conservatives don't believe in personal responsibility.

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  193. Hopefully it stays south of Quebec for the near future.

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  194. Threw mine away yesterday.

    Richland County is a spot of blue in a big red sea of a state.

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  195. Sure I do.

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