Fundie queen Mollie Hemingway.
Other mooks on the thread agreed: "After reading that, in my mind's eye were jack-booted thugs, enormous rallies, and broken glass." Later more of them ran to Barro's Twitter to yell, "Seig heil!" and tell him "Keep calling for murdering those who don't agree with you... don't be surprised with dissent Douch," " You can't take it? After calling for death to those who have dissenting views? Punk ass bitch. Wake up," "He's doing like other #LGBT leaders and calling for deaths," etc.
Good thing he didn't call for stamping out racism, too. Then he'd be Hitler and Mussolini.
(During the Battle of Chick-Fil-A, by the way, Hemingway was delighted to hear that she might have gotten a reporter fired for saying mean things about the chicken chain on Facebook. That's how devoted to freedom she is!)
UPDATE. Making everything dumber, Erick Erickson at RedState:
Certainly I’d like to think Barro doesn’t have extermination of the religious at mind, but then King Henry never said to kill Thomas a Becket. He just openly pondered about who would rid him of that turbulent priest.I suppose he imagines Josh Barro openly-pondering this in an MSNBC green room, and Ezra Klein going, "Uh, so you're saying I guess kill the Christians? Because I could totally do that" while Amanda Marcotte stirs a cauldron of latte and cackles. (Oops, I forgot the armbands!)
UPDATE 2. Comments are already a joy. "First they came for the attitudes," intoned Big_Bad_Bald_Bastard, "but I did nothing, for I was not an intangible mental state." But Shakezula counters: "Attitudes are in my head. And so to stamp out an attitude you'd have to stamp on my head." Boo-yah, liberal fascists!
"After reading that, in my mind's eye were jack-booted thugs, enormous rallies, and broken glass."
ReplyDelete"... and all the gay people were finally in concentration camps. Huzzah!"
He's doing like other #LGBT leaders and calling for deaths
ReplyDeleteFirst they came for the attitudes, but I did nothing, for I was not an intangible mental state.
ReplyDeleteWHAT?
ReplyDeleteI thought you were like, totally mental, man...
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Bad boys Bad boys
ReplyDeleteWhatcha gonna do when the pink triangle Sturmabteilung comes for you?
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For a lot of LGBTs - like myself, I should add - there can be a lingering bad habit of sitting on our asses after historic victories. To take comfort in being the fight du jour for rich, sexy people. Equality sign on our Facebooks, everyone! And that's a day.
ReplyDeleteMeanwhile, trans people are homeless, and starving, and suicidal. But their optics just aren't as marketable. And intersectionality. Us white LGBTs suck at it. This is all true.
That said.
The wingnut flailing and failing on gay rights against the ceaseless tide is amusing to behold. The public at large doesn't about their various bible verses, and the ones that focus on teh buttsecks, like, 90% of the time turn out to be sick freaks themselves. They can hem and haw about how leather-bound unce unce uncers at pride parades are toxic to little junior, but *everything* is toxic for little junior- swear words, black people, midriffs, etc. So they're left with self-enforcing, un-utilitarian derp on the subject. Why are gay rights bad? Because gay rights are bad! But *why* are gay rights bad? Because, um, thingy! At least with being anti-choice, they can raise the bullshit specters of adorable little dead babies. With this, they're contorting themselves into broken pretzels of impotent rage against suited queers in office buildings who drive Hondas. How *exactly* is this the downfall of civilization, again?
So what's left? Perpetual victimhood, of course. Michael Sam is a Bad Thing because I Have To Watch Him On TV. He's being Shoved Down My Throat. It's not fair that Being Gay Is Important. It's not fair that I can't be one of the cool kids too. Gay people are mean.
Which is fine for bitching at the TV, but sucks for proselytizing. Don't you see the encroaching homosexual menace? They make FUN of people! Join the cause to not be mocked! And people were mean to Tebow, too! It's not fair! Where are you going?
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot tweeting disapproval of a human face contorted in bigotry — forever.
ReplyDeleteIn the wingnut universe:
ReplyDeleteStamp Out Hunger: Clearly an attempt to kill poor-hard working Americans and replace them with mooching Mexicans!
Stamp Out Litter: An attempt to set fire to trashcans so that the violent Obama revolution might be sparked!
Stamp Out Smoking: "Smokers, to the ovens with you!" Obama's liberalfascism is now taking root!
Stamp Out Poverty: An attack on capitalism itself! Didn't Jesus say that we would always have the poor with us?
Stamp Out Bullying: An attempt to mollycoddle our kids and feminize them
Stamp Out Corruption: Corporations are people too! Sieg Heil, Obama!
I wish I could be clever, but the increasing frequency of these Nazi comparisons just makes me sad. You know, it's not going to be that long until everyone with first-hand experience with WWII and the Holocaust is gone. Once that happens, this kind of talk is going to get much, much worse.
ReplyDeleteGodwin damn it, these people are adults, not hyperbolic teenagers with no sense of perspective. They should be ashamed, but it looks like shame is dead.
It could have been much worse. We could have asked Mollie Hemingway to clean up her room.
ReplyDeleteThis would be hilarious if NOM and their fellow gay-bashers all 'round the world weren't cheerleading for actual, *literal* jack-booted thugs who enjoy torturing and killing gay people.
ReplyDeleteAs ever, IT'S ALWAYS PROJECTION.
Because of their ceaseless quest for control--of other people's rights and other people's bodies. If the thinking seems like it's out of the twelfth century, that's because it is.
ReplyDelete"Certainly I’d like to think Barro doesn’t have extermination of the religious at mind,"
ReplyDeleteYeah, for one thing "religious" doesn't actually equate with "gibbering anti-LGBT bigot," you stupid bigoted pusbag.
Also, is McGruff the Crime Dog still a thing? Because if so, watch out for conservatives roaming the streets, biting likely criminals.
ReplyDeleteHave you no feelings, sir? Think of the poor defenseless attitudes being stamped out. Where is your compassion?
ReplyDeleteThat last thing you said is the root of the problem.
ReplyDeleteI am shocked, shocked that the statement "let's stamp out hate" is controversial to these idiots. (Actually, I am kind of shocked.)
ReplyDeleteI wonder if this is what Barro meant by "terrible for all kinds of communities." It certainly isn't doing the Idiot Community any favors to be dehumanizing themselves with these preoccupations.
"these people are adults, not hyperbolic teenagers with no sense of perspective."
ReplyDeleteObjection, Your Honor! Assumes facts not in evicence!
attitudes...they...them
ReplyDeleteInstructions unclear, subject and pronouns separated by several words, stepped on own dick.
Hating the haters makes you a hater. Srry, it's just the way it works.
ReplyDeleteIf this keeps up, all of the homophobes will go Galt. Then we'll be sorry.
ReplyDeleteFirst they came for the functionally illiterate, but I did nothing to stop them, because it meant getting rid of all those idiot conservatives. (Sorry for the redundancy.)
ReplyDeleteAlso also, young Mr. Barro seems like a smart enough fellow. If he's not prepared
ReplyDeleteto prostitute himself to shrieking dumbshittery, he really needs to jump
ship from center-right / libertarian / Republican, or whatever. Join us
in Sanityland, Josh; not only do we not hate homos with a spittle-flecked passion, we know what goddamned figures of speech are. Let
the shrieking dumbshits keep your embarrassingly overrrated deranged
innumerate hack of a father.
There is something incredibly familiar about this attitude of reflexive self-pity and moronically knee-jerk self-defense and I finally remember what it was.
ReplyDeleteMy lazier 7th grade students had the exact same tone and attitude when I asked them if they did their work. When the shit finally hit the fan and they were faced with irate parents or other potential consequences, out came the whining and excuses and accusations.
You hate me because I'm (fill in the blank). The blank did not matter; I had white students accuse me (also white) of racism because obviously I was biased towards Black and Hispanic students because some of them passed my class.
You were mean to me. You yelled at me (lie), didn't give me the assignment (lie), didn't tell me when it was due (lie), didn't tell me to not talk during a test (lie).
You failed me. My string of zeros is all your fault. I am the helpless victim of the perfidy of The Man. You want me to fail.
If we are persecuting Christians, why does every Podunk town in Texas have at least a dozen churches?
Oh, go back to Fox, you damn commie.
ReplyDeleteActually, I WOULD like you to go there, replace that other guy that stole your name, and get Fox on the path of righteousness. Hey, a man's gotta have a dream.
Can't believe you forgot Stamp Out Obesity. Fat people make the best Soylent Green.
ReplyDeleteMentally, they kind of are teenagers.
ReplyDeleteHey, someone else has that dream!
ReplyDelete"Hmm, well, the ID says 'Roger Ailes,' so I guess you can go in."
"Thank you. Mua-HA-ha-ha-ha-haaaa!" [Sweeps into inner sanctum]
"Did something about Mr. Ailes seem ... off to you?"
"Yeah, that laughter wasn't as malevolent is usual. Maybe he got an especially good deal on his latest kitten / hammer kit."
Or even evidence.
ReplyDeleteFortunately, I had the presence of mind to swallow my coffee before reading that.
ReplyDeleteOh, let's just roll with it, it's not like we're going to change their minds.
ReplyDeleteWe could start by making the gay-intolerators wear an identifying patch on their outer clothing at all times; maybe the serpent from the Gadsden flag?
Or all the homos will go galt and who will we have to run our upscale restaurants?
ReplyDeleteI think they'll find that hateful fuckery is a Lifestyle Choice, not something they were born with.
ReplyDeleteawesome
ReplyDeleteWell. Um. Attitudes are in my head. And so to stamp out an attitude you'd have to stamp on my head.
ReplyDeleteErgo and in conclusion, despite the fact I spend 50% of my making hours calling gay people diseased, insane child rapists who are bent on destroying the universe and making me fuck dogs, I am, once again, THE REAL VICTIM!! Yaay!!
/WingNut
Exactly--a reasonable observation that hateful attitudes are harmful to society followed by a call to stop condoning that kind of thinking/behavior in general and work to eradicate it, and they take it personally, eh? Their personal identity relies so much on hating/fearing others?.
ReplyDeleteAside from the obvious reading-comprehension challenges these folks seem to face, I find it quite ominous that they twist even the most innocuous difference of opinion into genocidal persecution. We ruthlessly stamped out apartheid in this society (or pretended to, anyway), but I missed the part where we rounded up rednecks and worked them to death or gassed them.
I understand that a hallmark of their delusion is extreme narcissism tainted with paranoia, but sheesh, what are they working themselves up to do?
Please don't give those perverts any ideas.
ReplyDeleteFuck you all; I consider myself an 'attidude' and I shall not be stamped out!
ReplyDeleteYou know, it's not going to be that long until everyone with first-hand
ReplyDeleteexperience with WWII and the Holocaust is gone. Once that happens, this
kind of talk is going to get much, much worse.
The problem with screaming Hitler is the same as screaming about the pending race war. After a decade or so of people not attempting to slaughter you, the average person assumes you're full of shit.
It's amazing that people think all they are is a walking bunch of immutable opinions.
ReplyDeleteand soap
ReplyDeleteWhy can't he be polite, like that nice young conservative Martin Luther King?
ReplyDeleteThis explains why they want to go to war so badly. Wars give people free rein to express hatred towards an enemy.
ReplyDeleteThese people shrieking out in defense of freedom of expression are the same people who keep talking about "Second Amendment remedies" to election outcomes they disagree with. The same people who tend to stalk, defame, and shout down those with whom they disagree politically. The same people who issue real death threats to those with whom they disagree.
ReplyDeleteTheir feigned indignation over their deliberate misinterpretation of Barro's comment just devalues all else they might have to say.
King Henry never said to kill Thomas a Becket. He just openly pondered about who would rid him of that turbulent priest.
ReplyDeleteSo gay people are the King of England and homophobes are the Archbishop of Canterbury. Except gay people don't exercise their royal powers because ... Uh. They're lazy. Or high. Or too busy having sex.
Something. Something is a fact that makes EEs stupid bullshit analogy not stupid bullshit and if you disagree you're a 30 Hitlerton Bomb waiting to blow up a church, so there!
Whack a mole martyrdom.
ReplyDeleteErick Erickson: "Certainly I'd like to think..."
ReplyDeleteHey, wow, I do have something in common with him, I'd like him to think, too!
The Homosexual Agenda:
ReplyDeleteM-F
Get up
Go to work
Go home
Eat dinner
Watch TV
Go to bed
Sat-Sun
Get up
Read paper
Do chores
Eat
Go to bed.
Does that about cover it?
Sadly, there are some Rand Paul supporters who have stomped on the head of someone who was not a Paulite. But remember: It's those of us on the left who are all about violence because we use words instead of, say, actual violence.
ReplyDeleteThom Hartmann has an interesting take on the question of whether same sex attraction is innate or acquired. In response to the homophobes, some of whom are quite famous, who yammer on the loudest about how being gay is a choice, he postulates that, for these folks in particular, they tend toward the gay end of the spectrum in their feelings and attractions but their conservative cultural identity prevents them from expressing it, and so they CHOOSE to act loudly and flagrantly straight. Because THEY are choosing to act this way, they assume that it's a choice for everyone else, and if only society had the right to browbeat gays into being straight, it could cure the "homosexuality epidemic" very quickly. I can only hope I did justice to his theory.
ReplyDeleteKids today... their excuses are SO much more creative than I remember...
ReplyDeleteI've been watching Josh for a few months now, and he's exhibiting worrying signs of occasional sanity.
ReplyDeleteThank you for adding unce unce uncer to my vocabulary.
ReplyDeleteFrom Abraham Lincoln's Cooper Union speech:
ReplyDelete"The question recurs, what will satisfy them? Simply this: We must not only
let them alone, but we must somehow convince them that we do let them
alone. This, we know by experience, is no easy task. [...] In all our
platforms and speeches we have constantly protested our purpose to let them
alone; but this has had no tendency to convince them. Alike unavailing to
convince them is the fact that they have never detected a man of us in any
attempt to disturb them. These natural and apparently adequate means all
failing, what will convince them? This, and this only: cease to call slavery
wrong, and join them in calling it right. [...] I am quite aware
they do not state their case precisely in this way. Most of them would
probably say to us, "Let us alone, do nothing to us, and say what you please
about slavery." But we do let them alone — have never disturbed
them — so that, after all, it is what we say which dissatisfies
them. They will continue to accuse us of doing, until we cease saying.
"
The oppression of the powerful by the powerless is just too much for them to bear.
ReplyDeletePoor things.
Now it's totalitarian to seek victory in the marketplace of ideas. The Right USED TO LOVE THE MARKETPLACE OF IDEAS! What happened to them, man?
ReplyDeleteFucking DINO.
ReplyDeleteFirst they came for the douche-bags, and then there were no rightwing commentators, for once, to play the victim card.
ReplyDeleteI usually love the sin and hate the sinner. But, maybe that's just me?
ReplyDeleteFucking pronouns, how do they work?
ReplyDeleteI hope you realize this statement is just like Hitler or something.
ReplyDeleteWas it over when the German's attitude stamped out Pearl Harbor? NO!
ReplyDeleteIs the shoving down throats thing covered under "chores"?
ReplyDeleteMaybe Erickson would've been okay if it had been phrased more gently: "At what point do the people tell the attitudes to go to hell? At what
ReplyDeletepoint do they get off the couch, march down to their attitude's
house, pull it outside, and beat it to a bloody pulp for being an
idiot?"
Some of us remember how her shooting was preceded by Sarah Palin's ad campaign showing crosshairs over Gabby's district.
ReplyDeleteTalking about Second Amendment remedies, and using images of gunsight crosshairs in ads against your political "enemies" is, I guess, a lot less likely to induce violence than saying we need to stamp out discrimination.
About four years ago, I got to do a series of extended interviews with a (at the time) 92-year-old ex-German soldier. He watched Nazism grow and take over Germany, and did his best to stay out of the military, but was finally drafted after Poland fell.
ReplyDeleteAt any rate, the Right here in America was in full-throated roar about how Obama was a Nazi/facist/totalitarian. I asked my friend what he thought of these comparisons:
"These people know nothing--NOTHING--about the Nazis, or about what the Nazis did or how they worked. Obama as Nazi?!?! They should all be glad that they have never seen actual Nazism!"
Maybe they reserve that for vacation time. None of my gay friends has ever mentioned it to me, though.
ReplyDeleteI think he's coming around.
ReplyDeleteHenry never directly said to kill the archbishop. Unlike so many who publicly advocate killing homosexuals.
ReplyDeleteSocialism!!
ReplyDeletewhat are they working themselves up to do?
ReplyDeleteEver read The Turner Diaries? I can't recommend it, for obvious reasons, but there's a definite strain of apocalyptic fever running through all these idiots. They want a day of judgement, where all the "evildoers" who don't follow the rules are punished and the good people are rewarded, after which they all live happily ever after.
No, they don't read much history.
Turns out customers liked other people's ideas more.
ReplyDeleteI just witnessed someone on the Internet reply to someone else's two-sentence negative remark about Twilight (that it presents a retrograde and destructive type of relationship as an ideal) as follows: "Glad to know how you feel is the standard bearer for all relationships! The millions of us who love and foundTwilight romantic must all be wrong, since you said so."
ReplyDelete"These people know nothing--NOTHING--about the Nazis, or about what the Nazis did or how they worked."
ReplyDeleteAnd yet so many of them are naturals at it.
I think they don't want us to hear the things they say and so convince themselves there's no way we can hear it. When we do hear it anyway, they attribute it to super-secret spying capabilities or perhaps our familiars keep sneaking into the internet and stealing the video of their latest homophobic rant.
ReplyDelete" You can't take it? After calling for death to those who have dissenting views? Punk ass bitch. Wake up,"
ReplyDeleteYou're the one who's whining about how the big brute is cruelly oppressing you with his tweets.
"Certainly I’d like to think Barro doesn’t have extermination of the
religious at mind, but then King Henry never said to kill Thomas a
Becket. He just openly pondered about who would rid him of that
turbulent priest."
I guess if Josh Barro tweets for someones death, it shall be done.
I've lived in Texas for 50 years and am surrounded by right wing "victims" who are outraged...outraged, I tell you...at being called out on their racist, homophobic, misogynist words and deeds. By god, these neanderthal bigots are not shy about telling everyone that they should be free to be as cruel, unfair, prejudiced and discriminatory as they want...and if anything is said to criticize them, they run whining to mommy to say how mistreated they are and how unfair liberals are. Yep, in Texas, there are only two things these folks can't stand: Intolerance and black people at the beach.
ReplyDeleteAha! Sneakily NOT calling for murder is Hitlerplus worse that openly calling for murder!
ReplyDeleteIs there no end to the perfidy!?
Abraham Lincoln is the Richard Wagner of Liberal Fascism!
ReplyDeleteDorothy Parker when asked to use the word "horticulture" in a sentence: "You can lead a horticulture, but you can't make her think."
ReplyDeleteWho now will gentrify our neighborhoods? [wails, rends garment]
ReplyDeleteI'm betting that the 140-character limits of Twitter have worked against Barro this time. "Ruthlessly" and "stamp out" were all the frothy types needed to conjure up jackboots and totalitarianism. It doesn't really matter that those refer back to "attitudes," not people. They're always gonna run with what they have if they're given an opening to do so. They don't do nuance, and they avoid context like it were the plague.
ReplyDeleteIf one were to say, "we must curbstomp violence," it's clearly rhetorical, but it would take the gasbags about two seconds to conjure up a vision of lefty skinheads marauding gated communities and two more seconds to broadcast it to the world without the rhetorical shading. Give it about five minutes to circulate, and it becomes "commie fascists curbstomp patriotic Americans. Obama yawns, haz cheeseburger."
"There isn't any place for eliminationist rhetoric, for suggestions that those on the other side of a debate must be removed from that debate by whatever means necessary."
ReplyDelete-Paul Krugman, Jan. 2011
You can say Barro is talking about only attitudes and not people, but I think that "ruthlessly" bit betrays how far he is really willing to go.
Now there's a Gordian knot.
ReplyDeleteTell that to the War on Terror.
ReplyDeleteThey are extremely bad readers, and their writing is proportionally as awful.
ReplyDeleteI've loved a sinner so much I've even loved sinning with them, but I'm not allowed to post the pictures online anymore.
ReplyDelete"Watch TV"
ReplyDelete"Read paper"
Is this the 1978 gay agenda?
Emotionally, they're struggling w/ the transition from infantile to juvenile.
ReplyDeleteThinly-disguised hate, tribalism & demonizing the other are the central tenets of their religion. Of course they feel threatened.
ReplyDeleteYou know who else likes to blow up & burn down churches.
ReplyDeleteHe's willing to unfriend homophobes on Facebook?
ReplyDeleteI see what ...
ReplyDeleteAll the way to the "Second Amendment remedies" LGBT people are so well known for?
ReplyDeleteYour concern is duly noted.
Yeah, that last thing you said.
ReplyDeleteThese are people who find "some guy on the internet said" to be a more compelling argument than mountains of evidence combined with common sense. Example: Birthers. Some guy on the internet claimed Obama was born in Kenya. Never mind that for this to be true, you've got to hand wave away birth certificates and contemporary birth announcements in Hawaii newspapers; you've got to go beyond that into "sure, it's totally plausible that an 18-year-old about to give birth would come up with and pay an amount roughly equivalent to the average full-time worker's annual salary in Hawaii to buy a plane ticket to travel to a less-developed country 11,000 miles away so she could give birth surrounded by people she'd never met before, and that she would then smuggle her newborn child back into Hawaii and use her considerable clout as an 18-year-old college student to convince/bribe the local newspapers to publish phony birth announcements and the hospital/county/state to falsify a birth certificate. People do shit like this all the time."
As is said around here frequently, "do they even know any real people?"
I read you, Dave.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkyUMmNl4hk
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Who knows how far those motivated by righteousness will go? Right?
ReplyDeleteAnd when asked about the Harvard/Yale football game she had attended: "If every girl in attendance were laid end-to-end, I wouldn't be at all surprised."
ReplyDeleteYou think that's Barro's definition of ruthless? I would be pleasantly surprised if that's the case.
ReplyDeleteI wonder then why a professional writer such as Barro wouldn't get straight to the point and write "...and we need to stamp them out by unfriending them on Facebook."
ReplyDeleteHelp, help, Christians & Muslims are being ruthlessly stamped out!
ReplyDeleteOh, wait, that's atheists being denied expression. And the atheists ruthlessly filed a lawsuit. In court. Maybe even on paper. Paper cuts!!
They seldom go as far as the self-righteous who are motivated by fear & tribalism. Possibly because their cause is righteous.
ReplyDeleteI wonder why goopers explicitly mention "2nd Amendment solutions" whenever they have a hissy fit*.
ReplyDelete* Aka, constantly.
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"Possibly because their cause is righteous."
ReplyDeleteWhich the righteous always say to justify extremism, be they left or right or whatever else floats their boat.
Who mentioned the 2nd Amendment?
ReplyDeleteSo in your first post, you purposefully misread what he actually wrote (You can say he's only talking about attitudes...because that's what he wrote) and then in your second, you "wonder" why professional writer wouldn't just write what he means. Which he did. You just chose to ignore it. That's some catch you got there boy.
ReplyDeleteHe wrote, specifically, anti-gay bigotry is an attitude that oppresses and that attitude should be ruthlessly stamped out. If he wanted to go further than trying to change attitudes, by your own "logic" he would have wrote that.
What's Barro's extremism here, Dave?
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