When I read yesterday that both President Obama and Cuba's murderous dictator Raul Castro were both going to be speaking at Nelson Mandela's memorial service in South Africa, I knew the odds were Obama would end up greeting and shaking the blood-stained hand of the Cuban despot. I had hoped against hope (no pun intended) that Obama would somehow find the courage to fend off his proclivity to act submissive before other world leaders, especially the most despotic ones, but apparently, he simply could not resist. Once again, Obama lends credence and recognition to a vile and bloody dictatorial regime responsible for the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people.
Obama Bows To With Cuba’s Raul Castro
It’s not just a handshake, notice the tip of the head and bend of the back, it’s a bow. Notice also Castro did not bow back.
Bowing to dictators again: Did Obama just bow to Cuba’s Raul Castro?The bowing thing is ancient wingnut catechism. Obama's about a head taller than Castro, which might explain his actions this morning if you're not too busy using Occam's Razor to carve OBAMA LOVES CASTRO into a tree.
I wonder if any of these guys has ever been to a funeral, not counting field trips with the Westboro Baptist Church.
UPDATE. For the Breitbarglers, John Nolte:
For those who believe in human rights and liberty, the sight of our president bounding up some stairs to energetically shake hands with Raul Castro, dictator of Cuba, was more than a little unsettling -- regardless of the circumstance.But for those who believe in blahde blah and blahdeblah, the sight of Rupert Murdoch bounding off to China for his extensive dealings with the dictatorship is no big deal. In the words of Lucie Cabrol: Money can make the dirty clean! Same to Mona "shameful day to be an American" Charen at National Review, and to her colleague Otto "The Damage of a Handshake" Reich, who claims "the Castro brothers have been vying for the world to see a handshake with a U.S. president for over 50 years," which makes them sound like they're collecting bubble-gum cards -- only bubble-gum cards that could destroy our nation!
Until now, every American president had studiously avoided this mistake: At U.N. and other gatherings U.S. Secret Service and diplomats were under orders to make sure such a “photo op” so highly desired by the Castros did not happen.
With his action President Obama has squandered U.S. prestige and honor.Now when the U.S. drops multi-megatons of bombs on some country, the natives will cry "Big deal, he shook Castro's hand" as they're blown to smithereens.
UPDATE 2. Now there's reams and reams of this stuff, including the obligatory Rush Limbaugh treatment and bow-truthers ("Funny, now that I think about it, I can’t recall ever seeing Obama 'bend down' to shake hands with the obviously shorter Prime Minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu"), but for our final yuks let us turn to Scott Shackford at Reason: "Oddly, though, I’m not seeing the actual faux outrage from the right." One is always least likely to notice faults in one's friends.
Are these guys aware that Fidel Castro and Raul Castro are two different people?
ReplyDeleteBREAKING NEWS: OBAMA HAS NECK, USES IT
ReplyDelete"...if you're not too busy using Occam's Razor to carve OBAMA LOVES CASTRO into a tree."
ReplyDeleteYou mean the Tree of Liberty? Very "funny."
I had hoped against hope (no pun intended) that Obama would somehow find the courage to fend off his proclivity to act submissive before other world leaders, especially the most despotic ones
ReplyDeleteAt least he hasn't spent his entire presidency kissing and holding hands with Saudi Arabia both literally and figuratively.
I am more interested in Bush pere's decision not to attend the funeral. I wonder how much of addlepated Reagan's support for apartheid was actually Bush's idea.
ReplyDeleteFor the same reason they voiced no concern when Bush apologized to China for our Navy recon airplane violating their airspace.
ReplyDeleteTheir buddies are making fucktons of profits by dealing with China, and they can get Cuban cigars on the black market whenever they want, so keeping an embargo in place gives their smuggled goods cache.
ReplyDeleteTed Cruz attended the memorial so perhaps he can punch Castro in the face for a photo op so that Conservatives can get some satisfaction. That should clinch him for the Republican Presidential candidacy in 2016.
ReplyDeleteChrist almighty, maybe it's because Obama is a big boy and knows how to act civil with the neighbors AT A FUNERAL.
ReplyDeleteAlso: Cuba's murderous dictator Raul Castro
Who what now? Got any evidence for this murder spree since 2008? I suppose he meant Fidel, who was not at all like that nice Batista.
Also too
"I wonder if any of these guys has ever been to a funeral."
ReplyDeleteAre you saying funerals aren't the perfect time and place to hash out old resentments and rivalries? Reagan would have punched all the other countries' "leaders" in the throats.
Mr. Obama and Mr. Castro were in the closet making babies and I saw one of the babies and the baby looked at me.
ReplyDeleteBecause if Obama behaved with anything less than courtesy to another guest at a funeral, what would the wingnuts have to say? He was making it "all about him"?
ReplyDeleteI think Bush pere is too frail to travel.
ReplyDelete"most despotic ones?" Seriously? Raul Castro hasn't even been in power long enough to spell "despot."
ReplyDeleteThey're the same guys who confused Cesar Chavez and Hugo Chavez.
ReplyDeleteSeriously. US citizens aren't allowed to buy Cuban goods in a 3rd country to consume there, and non-US citizens can't legally connect two overseas flights via a US airport with Cuban goods. Tell me again how the right is against government overreach?
ReplyDeleteClearly, he absorbed some of the despoticness . . . despiticism . . . some of the bad guy particles from Fidel. That's what Obama was trying to get.
ReplyDeleteThere goes Obama, lording his superior height over everyone. What a snob.
ReplyDeleteShrieking about Cuba has become part of the right-wing catechism by now, and like most parts of a catechism, no thought is applied to it. It's nearly a reflex by now, and I'm sure we could find some Republicans capable of denouncing Castro in their sleep.
ReplyDelete...but light sweet crude is a girl's best friend.
ReplyDeleteI've been to Southern funerals where a lot of old grudges were on full display: handshakes denied, cut directs made, backs turned, etc. You'd think a period of mourning would be enough to put the kibosh on all the acting out, but no.
ReplyDeleteAimai's right. That southern ball grabbing tactlessness has leached into the Republican cortex like a brain devouring amoeba.
They probably don't know what a Castro Convertible is.
ReplyDelete~
Obama choo-choo-choosed Raul.
ReplyDelete. . . making fucktons of money . . .
ReplyDeleteAnd I'll bet those are socialistic metric fucktons instead of good ol' American fucktons.
that Obama would somehow find the courage to fend off his proclivity to act submissive before other world leaders, especially the most despotic ones
ReplyDeleteBut...Obama is the most despotic world leader! Right? He's a submissive despot. Always bowing and lording. Don't confuuuuuuuuuuuuse me. You lie! Alinsky!
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I also wonder how many of these people get Raul and Fidel confused. Next up: Bernadette Castro!
ReplyDeleteIs that a representation of the wingnut mind just before it explodes from cognitive dissonance?
ReplyDeleteHey, yeah, where was Ted Cruz? Raul Castro was eager to tell him, "Be sure to thank your dad for his support."
ReplyDeleteCameron no doubt chose the gracious route, so that a solemn ceremony wouldn't be constantly disrupted by heckling about the "Hang Mandela" campaign he took part in as a Thatcherite youth. That man is always thinking of others.
ReplyDeleteRemember when Google was called a bunch of pro-Venezuelan socialists for recognizing Cesar Chavez' birthday?
ReplyDeleteIt’s not just a handshake, notice the tip of the head and bend of the back, it’s a bow.
ReplyDeleteDude, when you have to break out the protractor and the wireframe models in order to tape the relevant arrows to your monitor, maybe you should pause a moment to consider what a goddamned idiot you're being.
Okay, so wingnuts got the "pro-Venezuelan" part wrong ... as far as we know. That is actually essential to their point.
ReplyDeletePlease, it's tonnes de baiser. Did Schoolhouse Rock teach you nothing?
ReplyDeletewingnut mind
ReplyDeleteMy head just exploded from cognitive dissonance.
Oh, come on, it's the merely the transitive property. Obama lords it over Americans like he's some sort of lordly American leader or something, then he goes overseas and bows submissively before the wrong sorts of evildoers. Therefore, he's arrogantly choosing submission to dusky Islamist Communist foreigners for all Americans, with the exception of the patriotic rump that refuses to recognize his authority at all.
ReplyDeleteYes, and this GOP disorder has pulled our whole culture toward a cliff. On NPR this morning -- NPR! -- they played exactly one sentence of what sounded like a startlingly good Obama speech... and then spent triple that time talking about how all of Twitter was abuzz over the handshake. Reagan hugged Gorbachev for pete's sake, Nixon shook Mao's hand, FDR and Truman shook Stalin's... And yet when I heard the report, I didn't think: Of course. I thought: Well, that's the sound of 50 million heads exploding across the US...
ReplyDeleteYou'd think rightwingers would want to go back to the days when the US was so respected that foreign nations named streets after our presidents... They're so demented they can't see that possibly we're living in those days right now. Jebus, just pause for one moment to note the president gets standing ovations and that is objectively a good thing we can all be proud of.
They said that before he even flew there -- as soon as he announced plans to go. "Let's count how many times he says 'I' in his speech," was the line. Because, you know, if he tells a story about being personally influenced by Mandela, that proves he's a narcissist.
ReplyDeleteYou ever start poking around in the jungles of 9/11 conspiracy nuts? These are the people who look at the zoomed-in video of the South Tower plane strike, see a flash of light off the airplane just as it's striking the building, and start theorizing about missile launches and laser weapons. These weren't well people to start off with, and we should be profoundly thankful they're sticking to paranoid comments in the sewers of the internet.
ReplyDeleteWell, Cuba does have universal health care (and it's reasonably good, given the country's poverty, from what I understand), which makes it extra-communist.
ReplyDeleteShoot, I had no idea that went on.
ReplyDeleteLook at that crowd. Ted Cruz is going to be like the seven thousandth most important mourner. He's probably going to be seated next to Mandela's gardener.
ReplyDeleteYes, I think he's in a wheelchair now. Or at least he was in the last photo I saw of him. I believe he came close to death earlier this year -- wasn't he in a hospital, and the various sons and daughters were coming to say goodbye? He was remarkably strong right through his early 80s but the last couple years have taken a toll.
ReplyDeleteThis is old news, the Corner has already moved on because OMG YOU GUYS did you hear Obama took a *selfie* at Mandela's funeral?!
ReplyDeleteThen what about the LGM frontpager who puts laser eyes on pictures? Him, too?
ReplyDelete. . . objectively a good thing we can all be proud of.
ReplyDeleteNo. Not if you're a wingnut. Three factors make it a very bad thing: A Democrat president is being lauded; a black man is being lauded; Obama is being lauded.
You will note that, for conservatives, all of those factors mean that the person being lauded is not their president.
Did he do duck-face?
ReplyDeleteAre you sure they were ever any different?
ReplyDeleteGod, he probably hugged the French President.
ReplyDeleteI can't vouch for the authenticity of this anecdote, but I'll pass it along anyway. Back when Alexander Haig was Reagan's Secretary of State, he was observed lighting up a fine Cuban cigar at a Georgetown party. His hostess teased him: "Secretary Haig! A man in your position supporting the Cuban economy!" Haig removed the stogie, regarded it. "I'm not supporting their economy," he growled, and took another drag. "I'm burning their crops!"
ReplyDeleteThey are also very concerned about the Castro twins in Texas, one of whom is the mayor of San Antonio and the other one who is in the U.S. Congress.
ReplyDeleteFor those who believe in human rights and liberty,...
ReplyDelete... turn back now. Because this is Breitbart.
It's all a matter of whether one's reach exceeds one's grasp. "Taller guy leans down a bit" == "Obama kowtowing to bad dictators"? Bzzt. "Light reflects off of metal surfaces" == "Laser guns on 9/11"? Bzzt. "Sight lines in Game of Thrones" == "Director making it clear that Tyrion Lannister is being fucking awesome"? Ding!
ReplyDeleterick perlestein has been writing and writing over the last few months that this is no different from the last ten years which was no different from the last 10 years before that and the last decade before that. as somebody who's done a little writin and researchin on ye olde righte wingge, i'd have to say he's largely right - from the wanted for treason poster below (distributed by )to the efforts in the twenties and thirties via the family to young movement conservative's open support for south african apartheid and the taliban - gang, roy's gonna have plenty to write about from here until the day we're all wearing google glasses and downloading itunes straight into our forebrains.
ReplyDeleteto shaking your head (John Roberts) during a formal speech by the President
ReplyDeleteI think it was Alito but wev. Sorry (not really) to be picky.
But for those who believe in blahde blah and blahdeblah, the sight of Rupert Murdoch bounding off to China for his extensive dealings with the dictatorship is no big deal.
ReplyDeleteYeah but that's different. For one thing, the Chinese dictators didn't steal any rich Americans' stuff by nationalizing it 50 years ago like Castro did. For another, our ties with China have allowed a lot of rich Americans to get a whole lot richer, while at the same time letting them stick it to their uppity fellow citizens AND indulge their fantasies of slave-owning at the same time.
Cuba = not only do they not allow us to exploit their poor people so we can debase our own, they stole our stuff.
China = we got lots more money in return for cutting the legs out from under all those NOBODY fellow citizens when we got Chinese slaves to do their jobs.
No contest there for a winger.
uppity neckro.
ReplyDeleteWait a minute ... what if this isn't a bowing handshake of respect and subservience to Raul Castro? What if it's a magnanimous, even condescending, gesture from the undisputed victor to one of the few remaining despotic relics of the Cold War (that wingnuts don't like), and he's bending down to the little guy in a patronizing manner? Wouldn't U.S. prestige and honor be maintained? Because the alternative is that Obama is thinking, "I'm merely the twice-elected President of the United States, but this guy is the despot of a small impoverished Caribbean island who got the job from his older brother. WOW!!!" And that would be so self-evidently fucking stupid that ... I withdraw the rest of my analysis.
ReplyDeleteIf everyone magically forgot that "Bless your heart" really means "Fuck you," its use would plummet overnight.
ReplyDeleteThere's no "I" in team, but there is a "You" in fuck you.
ReplyDeletePoor bastard. He'll probably die before Barbara.
ReplyDeleteI'm sure you are right. I just remember the headshake and simply put the face of a scowling, right wing judge in its place.
ReplyDeleteRemember, Mitt Romney thinks that the barbed wire outside the walls at his Chinese factories are to keep workers from showing up and invading and working for free.
ReplyDeleteMostly because they think the support from Cuban emigres and sugar producers in Florida is worth more to them than the extra trade dollars. It's reactionary defense of a politically advantageous status quo.
ReplyDeleteWait, they let a black president have a gardener? My mind, it is blown.
ReplyDeleteI hate that phrase with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns. It started on a Thanksgiving I was invited to in the South. I was asked what I would like to drink with dinner, and thinking I was being very low-maintenance I said red wine was perfect. Record-scratch, silence... and the woman said, "Well. Bless your heart." It was very clear in that "bless your heart" that I was some real degenerate to want wine. The woman had meant did I want sweetened or unsweetened tea -- the only choices available to the two dozen adults present (and all of them fine with it, in some inscrutable Baptist habit). None of this went down well with NJ-raised, CA-dwelling, lapsed Catholic me, and that was a very long goddamn dinner. Bless THEIR hearts Fuck em.
ReplyDeleteGOP sounds like the SEC. Same single-mindedness in pursuit of one activity (football), Same rivalry-minded hatred. Same creating enemies where none previously existed. Same gerrymandering. Same neglect of other activities. Same contempt for reflection or intellectualism. (To live in its heartland is to observe the beast within.)
ReplyDeleteAt U.N. and other gatherings U.S. Secret Service and diplomats were
ReplyDeleteunder orders to make sure such a “photo op” so highly desired by the
Castros did not happen.
Hang on ... Not that I don't believe it, but how do the NRO'ers think this worked? Did the Trilateral Commission instruct the Secret Service and the State Department to make sure of this, lest presidents try to go rogue? Did presidents give the order themselves, because otherwise they might not recognize Fidel Castro before shaking his hand by accident? Was the government way ahead of the curve on photobombing? Or was it simply that at events where the US could dictate terms, Castro and the president were kept apart so that the president wouldn't be caught out looking like a jackass by openly refusing to shake hands? Because you put someone in a situation where handshaking is the polite thing to do, and any normal, remotely decent person ... I withdraw the rest of my analysis.
You do reallize that there are penalties for early withdrawal (especially two of them), right?
ReplyDeleteYou do realize that there are penalties for early withdrawal (especially two of them), right?
ReplyDeleteNow imagine attending a funeral with them.
ReplyDeleteI believe Miss Manners (amongst others) would remind her gentle readers that although she gives advice about correct behavior, and encourages its use, one of the true tests of manners is in how a host responds to an apparent gaffe by a guest. Hint: The people in your story fail.
and gwb kissed!! the king of saudi arabia on the lips. I don't remember any outrage over that clearly homosex act.
ReplyDeletethat's the one I tried to post. Where is the outrage??
ReplyDeleteAnd what I wonder is: What do they get out of it? It can't be much different from what we get from cheering for a sports team, which brings zero practical results. It's all emotional. So is politics (whether they know it or not, and believe me, they don't) all sport-and-theater to them?
ReplyDeleteEvery week, here and in the Voice, Roy presents us with these wingnut analyses, opinions, and polemics that are so obviously hypocritical, stupid, juvenile, irrational, and silly, that I wonder: What do these writers think they're doing? Winning converts? Making telling points? Speaking truth to power? Calling malefactors to account?
Here is Obama, in the most formally circumscribed event short of a coronation (the funeral of a state leader), "bowing" to greet another head of state because of the disparity in their heights. What kind of pathology or idiocy prompts someone to seriously assert that he's kowtowwing to tyrants? Is it just stupidity? Pathology? Or just mere sport?
One way Obama could rescue the honor of this country is by putting Otto Reich on trial for his role in Iran-Contra and his various other criminal misdeeds in Central and South America.
ReplyDeleteAh! I see President McCain is calling Obama on this: He's noted that Chamberlain shook Hitler's hand.
ReplyDeleteThis is the kind of insightful analysis of America's foreign relations that made McCain such a formidable opponent.
I hate to shock the Breitbart kiddies, but Reagan also shook hands with one of history's biggest monsters*.
ReplyDelete*(Not to mention one James Earl Carter)
And McCain shook Muammer al-Gaddafi's hand. You say "murderous desPOAT," I say "murderous desPAHT." Let's call the whole thing "Shut the fuck up forever, John."
ReplyDeleteObviously, it was partly my gaffe too -- I did not size up the room to notice that no one had a pre-dinner cocktail of any kind, which could have saved me from offending local mores. And I do remember most people there being inordinately kind -- I could tell by the looks on some faces that they were working very hard to decipher my Yankee accent and fully engage. But I did occasionally use the wrong cultural signifiers (i.e., no sitcom was safe to mention) and wine was the biggest. On the other hand, I can't believe I met 20+ adults who did not consider wine to be a normal part of a nice dinner. I asked one of the adults who I knew well-ish (and who I'd seen drink wine on other occasions) and she explained "Oh, but not at a family gathering!" In a tone of "We keep our degenerate behavior away from this sacrosanct domain!"
ReplyDeleteAs a PS let me add that I threw a little Politeness Jujitsu of my own: when the lady said she meant tea, I said "Oh, of course -- please don't open a bottle of wine just for me. You've already been so generous, that would be too much! So I'll have tea also, and thank you very much." I said this immediately and with such sincerity that I feel I must have embarrassed her right back (if she was capable of being embarrassed). I'm pretty proud of that! So, arguably, I am just as horrible a person.
They turn everything into stupid cartoons for their microcephalic mob. So Uppity Obama is snooty and arrogant to all decent, god-fearing white people, while Sniveling Obama bows and scrapes to mooslims, commie dictators and mud people. The worst nightmare for one of these clowns would be for an editor to say "here, dumb this down" because it's simply not possible.
ReplyDeleteIn re China its time to haul out the Latin Tags. I believe the phrase Lucie Cabrol is looking for is "pecunia non olet."
ReplyDeleteVespasian imposed a Urine Tax (Latin: vectigal urinae) on the distribution of urine from public urinals in Rome's Cloaca Maxima (great sewer) system. (The Roman lower classes urinated into pots which were emptied into cesspools.) The urine collected from public urinals was sold as an ingredient for several chemical processes. It was used in tanning, and also by launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woollen togas. The buyers of the urine paid the tax.
The Roman historian Suetonius reports that when Vespasian's son Titus complained about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and asked whether he felt offended by its smell (sciscitans num odore offenderetur). When Titus said "No," he replied, "Yet it comes from urine" („Atqui ex lotio est“).[2]
The phrase Pecunia non olet is still used today to say that the value of money is not tainted by its origins. Vespasian's name still attaches to public urinals in France (vespasiennes), Italy (vespasiani), and Romania (vespasiene)
Hell, if you are reading your Gun Fail diaries over at DailyKos you'd see that refusing to shake someone's hand at a funeral is the benign end of things in this meth and nra fueled hell hole we call America. As far as I can see some funerals should be sold in baker's dozens given how much bad blood they create.
ReplyDeleteAgreed. It seems to fit the worldview where treaties are no longer mutual agreements for international gain but conspiracies by lesser nations to tie the US down and cripple it.
ReplyDeleteOh, very well done on the comeback.
ReplyDeleteStyles do change and are regional and age related. I was hosting a birthday party for my father when he was about 75, so his old science friends, and it was brunch for christ's sake, for about 40 people. One old guy asked me for a scotch and soda. We just don't have that kind of liquor around because we don't drink that stuff. We had champagne, mimosas, that sort of thing.
He's pretty old at this point. He was crashing airplanes while John McCain was still in short pants.
ReplyDeleteActually the Danish PM did, and asked Obama to be in it.
ReplyDeletehttp://imgur.com/gallery/rggzcaQ
Funny that many of the comments on that post are about why it's improper at a memorial service
Thanks. And yeah, I posted this-all because regional and age-related differences fascinate me. I enjoy hearing about them, even when they frustrate.
ReplyDeleteBut I do plain dislike "bless your heart" because it seems weirdly dishonest -- seems to require the recipient to pretend he doesn't know he just got called out? Not sure. Maybe passive-aggressive is a better description of it -- and I don't like passive-aggressiveness, which strikes me as the habit of individuals with a certain self-satisfied but ultimately fragile pathology.
I'll have a mimosa.
Speaking of "inappropriate" photo ops. . .
ReplyDeleteThere is also no such thing as diplomacy.
ReplyDeleteI think part of it is careerism. There are folks who buy this stuff, figuratively, but also literally. This is what the readership wants, in the nuttiest sections of Wingnutia. Some folks who know that what they are doing is BS do it anyway. Cuz they got bills to pay.
ReplyDeleteOthers believe it themselves. With the new media, there really is no gate to keep, much less gate keeper. Any idiot, (literally, this time!) can set up a website, write a self published book, whatever.
Then, perhaps, there is a middle ground. Folks who know, at some level, that to make a fuss about a handshake is stupid, but, they see it not so much as "sport" as kinda like wingnutty performance art.
Making a fuss about a handshake personalizes and brings home to a broad audience what might be lost in a more nuanced examination of a real issue. Wingnut pundit thinks Obama is "too soft" on our "enemies" (Iran, Cuba, Russia, China, etc). Well, that is a hard case to make, even if it were true (an even harder because it is not true!). The average wingnut reader is not going to want to wade through a subtle, historically grounded account of President Obama's foreign policy. And such an account is difficult to write, too. Much easier, and more likely to be popular, to lambaste him for shaking hands with a "bad guy." It gets the point across, which the writer actually does believe in, but in a shorthand, simplified dramatic way.
Mr. Aimai has a business acquaintance who is like bizarro world the opposite of us. I've never met the guy but he prays over us and is a military guy, probably a top gun type. Mr. Aimai is a nice jewish intellectual with a beard. Regional and cultural differences are always in play because we have teenage daughters the same age--ours is going to become an academic and is writing a thesis on John Dewey and his is planning on joining the cia and spends her afternoons building trebuchets and flinging around her bowie knife in the back yard. He once asked us if we gave our daughter a gun to help her commute into boston.
ReplyDeleteAnd, of course, Nixon did shake Castro's hand:
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He once asked us if we gave our daughter a gun to help her commute into boston.
ReplyDelete"Nah, guns are too random. We just give her a couple of throwing knives, so she can spare innocent bystanders on the commuter train."
Whoa. He really was a liberal in disguise.
ReplyDeleteAh, Nixon was only vice-presidenting then, so totes doesn't count.
ReplyDeleteWell next time you'll know better and ask for whisky. A full glass. Ahfugget just give me the bottle.
ReplyDeleteShaking hands with a dictator you say?
ReplyDeleteYou want presidential Dick? We got presidential Dick.
ReplyDeletesuch a “photo op” so highly desired by the Castros
ReplyDeleteIs there some universe in which the Castros would want such a photograph? How in the name of feck is it supposed to bolster their position, whether used internally or overseas? What kind of a nimrod puts quotes around 'photo op' as if it is an esoteric term known only to the cognoscenti?
Hmm. I wonder if any assholes in Cuba are wailing about Castro shaking the blood-stained hand of the U.S. Despot?
ReplyDeleteShirley you mean "Lasciate ogne speranza".
ReplyDeleteHis daughter sounds like she'd be down with it. I wasn't kidding abou tthe trebuchets and the knife. Apparently they live a little too close to their neighbors for this kind of weaponry and they had to move her trebuchet to an Uncle's farm.
ReplyDeleteSorry, HJ, but we've already pretty conclusively determined above that Chinese leaders aren't on the bad despot list. Only murderous communist whomever Obama has shaken hands with.
ReplyDeleteAnd its not infallible in preventing the full formation of ideas.
ReplyDeleteMy god, I think his nose actually did get longer between the first picture and the last.
ReplyDeleteNo, but probably quite a few fake leftists here are.
ReplyDeleteBig accomplishment of the day: I confused Disqus. It's all downhill from here.
ReplyDeleteI mean, maybe Obama shook his hand, leaned down, and said "Hey, Fidel, how's it going! [dramatic pause] Oh, damn, I'm sorry" then smirked and high-fived David Cameron. It would be irresponsible not to speculate that the president is not the petty dickhead his opponents desire him to be.
ReplyDeleteJohn Adams is already working on a new opera, Obama in South Africa [Briefly Says 'Hi' to Raul Castro].
ReplyDeleteIn fairness to the brethren, I was hoping Obama, upon being greeted by David Cameron, would whip out his iPhone, say "hang on, this is important," and then walk off muttering about how Jamaal Charles knocked him out of his fantasy football playoffs.
ReplyDeleteDamned LINOs! They ought to be brought before the House Un-Un-American Activities Committee.
ReplyDeleteI copied the file to a high-resolution jpeg, then used enhancement software to clean up the image before enlargin...
ReplyDeleteOMG!! EYES DOWNCAST FOR EXTRA-DEFERENTIALITY!!!
Or: "Guns, hell! That girl gets a couple of mimosas in her you don't even want her near a butter knife!"
ReplyDeleteMy folks did the teetotal thing in front of the matriarch, but my uncles were always sneak drinking something vile while they were out cooking the pig over a repurposed oil drum. George Dickel-, Seagram's maybe, if they were flush.
Yeah, what did Cuba ever do for Walmart?
ReplyDelete"Until now, every American president had studiously avoided this mistake."
ReplyDeleteUm, Clinton shook Fidel's hand in 2000.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/915415.stm
Oy. As soon as I saw the NBC News feed on Google News with the headline "Obama Shakes Hands With Castro" I knew what was coming. I just wish it were Fidel and not Raul.
ReplyDeleteWhy doesn't this have more likes?
ReplyDeleteHell, I'm a secular Jewish academic, about as pointy-headed as they come, and if my daughter decides to start building a trebuchet, I'll count it as a MASSIVE win.
ReplyDeleteIslamist-atheist, sharia-imposing libertines, the lot of 'em!
ReplyDelete"Once again, Obama lends credence and recognition to a vile and bloody dictatorial regime responsible for the murder of tens of thousands of innocent people."
ReplyDeleteHey, we all wish he wouldn't have let the Bushies off the hook so easily, but what's done is done.
Hugged shmugged. At least he didn't massage anyone ;-)
ReplyDeleteAnd Nixon, as shown below. So every American president had studiously avoided this mistake except for those who hadn't.
ReplyDeletethe guy who's a professor of visual rhetoric or something like that? doesn't seem to be exactly the same thing.
ReplyDeleteIt’s not just a handshake, notice the tip of the head and bend of the back, it’s a bow.
ReplyDeleteSo he's haughty, but it's a servile kind of haughty?
Heck, Raul Castro may have to face his country's comité de actividades anti-cubanos for shaking the bloodstained hand of the US despot.
ReplyDeleteAnd here's that traitorous bastard Hebert Hoover.
ReplyDeleteBut let us not forget the classics. (OK, I'm done.)
ReplyDeleteFucking discus. I tried to delete that after seeing that HJ beat me to it downthread.
ReplyDeleteIn fairness, if somebody offers to give you a 40-year blow job, shaking their hand is the least you can do to thank them.
ReplyDeleteIronically the CIA would probably be more interested in hiring your daughter than his...
ReplyDeleteno.
ReplyDeleteI guess in the next GOP presidential primaries we can expect those candidates aimed at the true believers to go through a lengthy list of which foreign leaders they will never shake hands with.
ReplyDeleteHe was making it "all about him"?
ReplyDeleteThat's a given regardless of what he does. They won't give up their conviction that he's the most uppity arrogant prez in US history.
The only surprise here is Reagan wasn't reaching around to shake his hand.
ReplyDeleteThat's the worst kind. God, the national humiliation. Thanks, Obama!
ReplyDeleteIn the photo I saw, poor Raul looked kinda freaked out.
ReplyDeleteYes, indeed. Little Boots showed them a good example in establishing American creepy dominance by massaging Angela Merkel's shoulders.
ReplyDeleteRemember, extremely rich people are paying the pundits to make these deranged statements. The same people who tried to "overthrow" FDR.
ReplyDeleteI'm betting these people have purchased a lot of land in the high northern latitudes, thinking they'll be A-OK when the rest of the world hots up.
They remind me of the members of my HOA. Petty, vindictive, puffed up with power; able to employ power only for the purpose of obstruction of others and enrichment of themselves.
ReplyDeleteThere's a world of wingnut difference between "Looking, hotty." and looking haughty.
ReplyDeleteIf one follows the money, the modern tea party-influenced Republican party is funded in no small measure by sons of one of the early board members of the John Birch Society, Fred Koch. It should come as no surprise that Bircherite philosophies would tag along for ride. Nor should it come as any surprise that Fred Koch made his fortune in the Stalinist Soviet Union.
ReplyDeleteThe Birchers have lots of made-up or inflated excuses for hating Castro, but the biggest ones, the unspoken ones, are that he cost the mafia (American free enterprise at its most elemental) loads of money and deposed one of the most corrupt friends American business ever had.
Ultimately, the Birchers' ethical judgments revolve around predatory capitalism. Robert Welch hated Castro because Castro cost him money. His candy company had become wealthy on extraordinarily cheap Cuban sugar.
Yeah. I agree. I think the trebuchet thing is cool. The CIA thing and the knife are a little creepier.
ReplyDeleteInnerstin'. Didn't W's old man say, in the aftermath of the USS Vincennes blowing that Iranian airliner out of the sky and killing more than 200 people, words to the effect that "America never apologizes" for things like that? Ah, here it is: "I will never apologize for the United States--I don't care what the facts are." http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_H._W._Bush. Apparently, we never did apologize for that one, so fuck you, Poppy.
ReplyDeleteThe cruder, more ruthless offensiveness from the right-wingers, I think, yields them a momentary feeling of larger, more brassy balls than they carry.
ReplyDeleteThe way I see it, these people have always been with us, but didn't have 24 hour cable news networks to trumpet their mimeographed rantings.
ReplyDeleteA southern state person told me about visiting long lost relatives and having the man say "Don't go yet, stay for dinner" He asked three times and the guy I knew said no because he knew that you do NOT accept and that three times is the correct amount of times for relations.
ReplyDeleteI asked what would happen if he had accepted and he said he did not know because it had never happened.
Yeah, what's different is the reach
ReplyDeleteIt’s not just a handshake, notice the tip of the head and bend of the back, it’s a bow.
ReplyDeleteI can just see this dipshite leaning in close to his monitor with an inch-ruler (not metric!) and protractor. I'm 65, retired, and even I can't get that bored.
Also too:
Obama Bows To With Cuba’s Raul Castro
"to with"? Did he type "bows to Mecca", then clumsily change it? IWBINTS...
"uphaughty", I think is the word...
ReplyDeleteI think a moan swept the globe within moments of the original story, as non-wingnuts realized what was coming.
ReplyDeleteOh, I think the Onion already has a good feel for those primary voters:
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theonion.com/video/after-obama-victory-shrieking-whitehot-sphere-of-p,30284/
Vespasian's name still attaches to public urinals
ReplyDeleteHahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Talk about a *place* in history...
What kind of nincompoop doesn't get that Preznits, Kings, Queens, Premiers, Prime Ministers, etc, bow and scrape to eachother in piblic, and always have, yea though they be on the eve of war, and they always fucking wil. I swear, sometimes the childish, willfully ignorant, outright sillyness of the Rightbloggers flat amazes me. "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused". No, I'm still disgusted, too...
ReplyDeleteWell, he is older in the second pic. And it's true that some parts of your body keep growing as you get older. I took a good, close look at my ears the other day...
ReplyDeleteRoberts was the one who couldn't manage to swear in President Obama.
ReplyDeleteConservatives these days are just rabid savages.
ReplyDeleteI get your point, but they don't "bow and scrape," they simply behave with ordinary good manners. And that's what it was. Ordinary good manners.
ReplyDeletebut for our final yuks let us turn to Scott Shackford at Reason: "Oddly, though, I’m not seeing the actual faux outrage from the right."
ReplyDeleteI'd explain this by comparing him to the "See no evil" monkey, but monkeys are more careful when flinging their feces.
Yeah, one of the many culture-shock experiences of watching Mad Men's first season was seeing whiskey, scotch and vodka treated as office supplies. Is there any profession today where drinking hard liquor all day in the office is considered not just acceptable but expected?
ReplyDeleteWell, it seems pretty popular among Canada's Succubi and Werewolf populations, but they seem to have very hard heads.
ReplyDeleteWhen I still lived in Miami 20 years ago, everybody there knew who Raul was: Fidel's younger brother who commanded the military and secret police. It was widely understood even back then that Raul was the real power behind the throne, secretly running things while Fidel was increasingly an aging figurehead and the eventual successor to the presidency.. And as the chief government enforcer, "Murderous" is a fair descriptor or the guy.
ReplyDeleteNot that the rightwing freakout over a handshake at a state funeral isn't hilarious, but does anyone here actually know who this guy is? People here are acting like he's some untested newcomer. He's not.
Sorry to be all cantankerous, it's early and I'm out of coffee. I don't really mean "people here" or even the handful that have made such comments. Just meant to say, I don't get any idea that the brethren don't know who Raul is. Clearly they do. Just as clearly, they don't know how our president should act or what diplomacy is or a lot of other things, but on whether Raul Castro is an asshole dictator they're not wrong. For some reason this "Do they know Raul from Fidel" thing is rubbing me the wrong way; maybe it's implying a major difference between the two as leaders that bugs me for some reason. Raul's been the de facto dictator for a lot longer than 2006 or 2008; it's perfectly reasonable to treat his presidency the same as Fidel's since Fidel's *was* his.
ReplyDeleteAnd it's funny how "pals around with terrorists" never applied to Reagan, Bush, and Orlando Bosch.
ReplyDeleteThese days?
ReplyDeleteSo Pinocchio is all about aging? Kind of makes sense.
ReplyDeleteFrom what I've read today, this handshake wasn't even reported on the official Cuban news.
ReplyDeleteScott Shackford @ reason.com, meanwhile, went with an odd "Right wing madness? What right wing madness?" sort of take.
ReplyDelete"But I don't know anyone who voted for Nixon."
They probably also have some vague notion in their head of Fidel going around wearing nothing but leather chaps.
ReplyDeleteOr how about we all just admit nobody gives a flying fuck who's a dictator, and only idiots expect the president to act out their personal feelings?
ReplyDeleteOr JFK, or Nixon, or....
ReplyDeleteAnd wingnuts cried out "Honey, where's my viagra?"
ReplyDeleteIs there any profession today where drinking hard liquor all day in the office is considered not just acceptable but expected?
ReplyDeleteSpeaker of the House.
May I ask who this is? Pic is tiny.
ReplyDeleteOGM in some cultures requires a bow. Even Shrub got that.
ReplyDeleteSorry, but "living in MIami and I'm taking the work of virulent anti-Castroites doesn't equal the truth for me.
ReplyDeleteI really have no idea. The fucked up thing is that almost no one in this country has much of an idea what goes on in Cuba, except that it has to bad because Commies.
ReplyDeleteI built a small trebuchet for my son when he was young. We used to bring it out to birthday picnics and hurl candies for the guest to catch.
ReplyDeleteHow soon they forget
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Inappropriate dress arguably cost Michael Foot the Prime ministership of the YUK
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