I wrote some pretty funny stuff for the first half of my career, and I’m not going to say I was inaccurate in all my judgments. But I was thoughtlessly cruel...
Over the years, I’ve heard from people I hurt with my words... and I’ve regretted what I wrote. Again, it’s not necessarily that I made an incorrect judgment in assessing a politician, a movie, etc., but that I did so inhumanely. I find now that the kind of criticism that I used to admire now strikes me as having the overriding quality of malice.
To speak in Dantean terms, if I am granted to pass to Paradise through Purgatory, my misuse of the gift of language and writing will be the thing about me that most merits the purifying fire.Snif. Seems like only yesterday -- in fact, it was yesterday. Here's Dreher today:
Ariel Castro & Other Cretins Who Deserved It
...There are lots of people I feel sorry for in this world. These are four I cannot pity. There is some atavistic part of me that doesn’t object to the rough justice they have received, though in Castro’s case, it is truly regrettable that he did not repent and die a natural death. My pity in that case is a function of my religious belief. I said a prayer for mercy on his soul, but my heart wasn’t really in it, I’m afraid.So, I guess what Dreher really meant was, he was going to continue to be "thoughtlessly cruel" -- he's just going to stop trying to be funny about it.
It's an interesting type of Christianity: One that allows contempt for one's fellow men as long as it's solemn. Pleasure (except for the sneaky pleasure of moral superiority) is the thing that makes it wrong.
That's okay. Dreher was never made to write satire; he was born to be its subject.
Plus, Dreher possesses "the gift of language and writing." (Funny, "thinking" didn't make the list.)
ReplyDelete(Also, too, Roy, that penultimate paragraph is stellar. That brand of Christianity is very popular in a certain crowd.)
my misuse of the gift of language and writing will be the thing about me that most merits the purifying fire
ReplyDeleteThat he still thinks his malicious judgments were correct strikes me as worse.
Indeed. And if he thinks his misuse of language is going to cost him some time in Purgatory I have a suggestion about how he might shorten it.
ReplyDeleteSay anything you want as long as you follow it up with "bless your heart."
ReplyDeleteJuvenal may be safe but juvenile is sure to get a run for its money.
ReplyDelete...my misuse of the gift of language and writing will be the thing about me that most merits the purifying fire.
ReplyDeleteOh, I'm pretty sure there are lots of other things about you that merit it more, unless the god you profess to believe in is as petty as you are and portray him to be. If he is, well, there's a delicious irony in that, wouldn't you say? I'd rank it as worthy of the late, great Spy magazine, in fact.
I wrote some pretty funny stuff for the first half of my career...my misuse of the gift of language and writing will be the thing about me that most merits the purifying fire.
ReplyDeleteRod's great virtue is humility, apparently. Just ask him.
if I am granted to pass to Paradise through Purgatory, my misuse of the
ReplyDeletegift of language and writing will be the thing about me that most merits
the purifying fire.
"If I ever get to heaven, it won't be because of how I treated people."
Half as many words. Does the American Conservative not have editors?
I don't suppose that bride he called a whore because he could see her tattoo can expect an apology.
ReplyDelete" Dreher was never made to write satire; he was born to be its subject."
ReplyDeleteBrevity is damned sure the soul of wit. Near-perfect, Roy.
Perhaps they don't want to interfere with Dreher's trademark unreflective, grandiose style.
ReplyDeleteYep. He never doubted that any of his hate was correct, he was just worried that he may have been enjoying it a little too much. And doesn't that just sum up the man himself to a perfect T?
ReplyDelete(I mean, this particular target warrants concern based on mutual humanity and little else, sure, I'm gonna get a bit of hate on myself; in a way that's more telling, that it takes "I'm not too broken up about a rapist abductor dying in prison" to get him to rethink his behaviour, but "WHORES! WHORES AND SODOMITES! ALL THESE PERFECTLY WELL-BEHAVED PEOPLE HAVE SINNED AGAINST GOD BY NOT APPLAUDING MY AESTHETIC DESIRES!" passes through without a hint of irritation.)
You know, one way to show repentance for the past cruel and cutting (yeah, I know) things that one has said is to join an ascetic monastery that bans word processing and/or internet access. Just sayin'.
ReplyDeleteThere are few people I more obnoxious and contemptible that those who use self criticism only as a way to boost their ego and pose as being oh so morally superior. When they think about how they may have done something mean to someone, they don't feel bad about it or want to be more considerate of others. Instead it's an excuse to pat themselves on the back and fish for praise about how goddam special and moral and superior they are for having remembered it in the first place.
ReplyDeleteSomehow I don't think the old man in the sky would think to highly of that. Sin of Vanity, was it?
You'll note that both columns end, reliably, with Rod's concern about himself. In the first, he's worried he may have abused his God-given gifts, and have to serve some time in Purgatory. Why don't you all take a minute to feel sorry for Rod? In the second, he confesses that he's not meeting God's standard for forgiveness. Why don't you all take a minute to feel sorry for Rod?
ReplyDeleteAfter all, Rod's a busy guy: he has columns to write and kids to worry about and a whole foreign country with universal health care that he has to suffer in and a dead sister's journals to exploit. He scarcely has time to feel sorry for himself--and at the end of the day (or the column) what, I ask you, could possibly be more important than Rod and his sorriness?
What Rod doesn't know is that when he reaches the Pearly Gates, Peter won't allow him into Heaven, won't send him to Purgatory, and won't damn him to Hell. Rod instead will be sent to remedial humor writing class.
ReplyDeleteMaybe he just means that he's grateful to have been born after language was invented, and he's sorry that he has misused Og's great gift to humanity.
ReplyDeleteYeah, you're going to spend some time in Purgatory for that one, Roy.
ReplyDeleteI shudder to think about what horrible sins you'd have to commit to be made the teacher of that class.
ReplyDeletePretty much the same thing as Hell for Crunchy. He'd never get out of it.
ReplyDeleteDunno about committed sins, but I sure hope the substitute teacher, when Dreher shows up, is Oscar Wilde.
ReplyDeleteAnd so, as punishment, I'm forced to take this remedial humor class for eternity ... maybe even longer!
ReplyDeleteOf course not, she totes deserved it.
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My pity in that case is a function of my religious belief.
ReplyDeleteIs Dreher riffing on Dante again? The episodes in Inferno where he learns that he must hate the sinner and the sin? Piety must conquer over pity, and so on?
I wrote some pretty funny stuff for the first half of my career
ReplyDelete...so he will spend the second half of his career trying to undo the damage.
I hate these Road-to-Damascus conversion stories.
If thy right hand offendeth thee...
ReplyDeleteIt's almost a truism today that people who feel duty-bound to tell you they're funny, aren't. It's invariably the guy who buttonholes you at a party and then launches into a four-hour monologue on his dog's hemorrhoids, his vacation to Disney World and that he's watched "The Secret" thirty-four times, and by the time he gives up, you feel as if you've been slowly, inexorably bludgeoned to death with non sequiturs and stabbed with exclamation points.
ReplyDeleteAnd Dreher is the guy who buttonholes that guy until he feels as if he's been given a double dose of brake fluid and had a Bible shoved up his ass.
Dreher is right about his misuse of language, but being funny has absolutely nothing to do with it.
"To speak in Dantean terms" is the usual pretentious and douchey Dreherm but somehow worse. Which is quite a feat. But even worse, this faux-mea culpa is so selffellating that I'm awe of his agility.
ReplyDeleteEspecially since the "purifying flames" of Dante's purgatory are applied to the sin of lust; they have no interest in Dreher's "gift of language and writing".
ReplyDeleteSo he is not even speaking in Dantean terms.
You can't spell "self-flagellating" without "self-fellating".
ReplyDeleteShorter Rod: You know all that Christian shit I been writin' about? Well, it really ain't my thing. See, I AM funny!
ReplyDeleteNeedless to say, his Kill the Cretins! column elicited torrents of Orthodox Christian Love™ in the comments. Here's one:
One problem with safety nets, although they have many good purposes, is that punks like these used to kill each other off or fall dead in a ditch at a much earlier age, often without having reproduced.
Worst Hope/Crosby buddy pic evah.
ReplyDeleteYes, I'm often astonished by the Xtians who publicly proclaim that the greatest indication of the enduring love of Jesus will be the day when everyone else is made to suffer horribly. I'm pretty sure that praying for the Second Coming just so you can watch your perceived enemies writhe in pain is not going to get you that coveted box seat next Big J.
ReplyDeleteIt goes back to at least St. Augustine, who wrote in The City of God that one of the pleasures of the Elect in Heaven was to watch the suffering of the damned in Hell.
ReplyDeleteIt's self-fellating without lag!
ReplyDeleteImprecatory prayer has been a deeply satisfying hobby of the Abrahamic religions ever since the first Old Testament scribe set quill to parchment.
ReplyDeleteThe problem now, in the early 21st century, is that a great many people believe, truly and sincerely, that it works.
Good reason not to put too much faith in any religion created by men wandering the desert under the hot sun.
I wrote some stuff for my career... My use of language will be one of the things about me that deserves fire.
ReplyDeleteShortened for accuracy.
There but for the grace of God, and actual editors, go I.
ReplyDeletePoor old Oscar. First they had him picking oakum. Now they've got him at writer's camp with Dreher and Richard Cohen.
ReplyDelete"Your room is right in here, Maestro."
ReplyDeleteHe was also pro mafia in late July when it came to "community order" in poor neighborhoods, but as of yesterday he was decrying the "mafia like" tactics of the folks boycotting that Oregon bakery. He is amazing. Bonus points for any M_Young comment.
ReplyDeleteSo, to Rod, a man who was truly a psychopath, a monster who inflicted physical and psychological torture on three women for over a decade, is equivalent to a couple of dumb-ass teenage muggers and a miserable drug addicted rapist?
ReplyDeleteThe common denominator for the rapist and the muggers is that they suffered the consequences of their actions at the hands of their victims. Thoughtless boneheaded idiots well on the way to self-destruction, who got their lumps.
How does Ariel Castro fit into this cohort, exactly? There's plenty to say about Castro, but how does he compare to these idiots? Unless all Dreher is about is rejoicing at punishment.
Well, he just wants professionalism in his organized crime, that's all.
ReplyDeleteTheir editors are too busy ferreting out and eradicating momentary lapses of sanity on the part of its writers.
ReplyDeleteNo, see, she should apologize to him for possibly putting his soul in peril of going to Heck. It's the Crunchy way!
ReplyDeleteRod's an authoritarian creep with a paper-thin veneer of religious faith. The religion angle lets him skate on personal responsibility: just following God's orders, don't you know. Nothing personal. Maybe if we hold your head underwater longer this time those demons of homosexual attraction will be driven out....
ReplyDeleteOddly enough, there is a religious faith that likes to insist on full-body coverage for females in the name of modesty. What do you think the odds are that Mr. Dreher has considered yet another conversion?
ReplyDeleteOh, I was thinking it might provide Wilde with a bit of amusement. At least it would allow him to exercise a few of his pithier epigrams. In Dreher's case: "There is no sin except stupidity."
ReplyDelete...my misuse of the gift of language and writing will be the thing about me that most merits the purifying fire.
ReplyDeleteAu contraire, dear boy. Your use of the gift of language don't make no never mind. It's everything else that merits the p. fire.
"It is better to be beautiful than good, but it is better to be good than...oh fuck you, Dreher.".
ReplyDeleteFunny (!) you should mention it. I have given a humor writing class at UCLA, but IT WASN'T REMEDIAL. At least not so's you'd notice. The shocking thing wasn't how difficult it was for the adult students (it was Extension) to be funny; it was how little they read.
ReplyDelete...and the only one without Dorothy Lamour.
ReplyDeleteRejoicing at punishment (of others) is the force that gives their lives meaning.
ReplyDelete"I wrote some pretty funny stuff for the first half of my career..."
ReplyDeleteIf he does say so himself!
Trappist-Keepists?
ReplyDeleteReader's Digest Condensed Truth.
ReplyDelete(makes hollow-fist back-and-forth gesture)
ReplyDeleteGiven the venue, shouldn't that be "eradicating momentary lapses into sanity...?"
ReplyDeleteNah, the Road To Damascus co-stars Sarah Palin.
ReplyDeletePalin (clutching an intercontinental missile launcher): "We gotta wipe out all the heathens! All the sinners! kill 'em all!"
Bing: "Woah, steady on there, sister! Doesn't the Bible say something about forgiving thine enemies?"
Palin: "Why, bless your heart, of course I forgive them!" (She winks at the boys in a cutesy style.) I'm a-gonna forgive them all...after they're good an' dead!!"
Bob: "Uh, yeah, that's nice, Crazy Library Lady...that's reeee-al nice!" (Whispers, loudly, in an aside to Bing): "She's nuts!!!"
Bing: "Right you are, Junior! I feel a song coming on..."
Shorter Rod:
ReplyDeleteIt was pretty funny when I used to try and suck my own cock. I'll continue to try and suck my own cock, but I'll pretend to feel bad about it.
The remarkable thing about that quote from Augustine is that he's considered one of the Church's leading intellectuals.
ReplyDeleteAnd worse, that it's probably *why*.
ReplyDeleteI want to take vows of silence and celibacy and live side-by-side with this comment in the desert for 40 years.
ReplyDeleteMost people, realizing the magnitude of the challenge, would shy away from attempting to claim the title of nastiest, most hateful person on the entire fucking internet. But Rod is special. He knows he's got what it takes.
ReplyDeleteposing as being oh so morally superior is the only thing brother rod knows how to do, though.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you want to bet he thought it was going to be like a ringside seat at a BDSM club?
ReplyDeleteThe classics are classics for a reason: http://www.michaelberube.com/index.php/weblog/mission_accomplished/
ReplyDeleteThe only "Dantean term" I know is "I'm not even supposed to be here today!"
ReplyDeleteI think Rod *is* one.
ReplyDeleteWell, a shorter Rod would make it more difficult.
ReplyDeleteWhenever you write about Dreher, I always wish I could make sure he read it, and never more so than today. It's a pipedream, I know, but man, does he need to read this. (Not that I expect it to sink in, he just needs to know that at least a few folks are on to him.)
ReplyDeleteOh dear, that one had some sizzle on it Doc.
ReplyDeleteHe was born like this; he had no choice. He was born with the gift of a golden voice.
ReplyDeleteWell, his writing style is more pissy than pithy. That's how these pharisees roll.
ReplyDeleteSo, I guess what Dreher really meant was, he was going to continue to be "thoughtlessly cruel" -- he's just going to stop trying to be funny about it. seo estafadores
ReplyDeleteI shudder to think what kind of beers would be brewed there. Not so much a Belgian Tripel, more of an Extra Bitter.
ReplyDeleteNO WORT PROCESSING.
ReplyDeleteOf all the whipping boys of this blog, Dreher is the one most likely to actually see these posts, which gives me no end of pleasure, what with him and his thin skin.
ReplyDeleteWait, it took a couple decades as a professional journalist, God knows how many Christian denominations, and a reading of the Divine Comedy for him to realize that SPY [ed. note: SPY!?!?] had "the overriding quality of malice"? Remind me how he makes his living again?
ReplyDeleteWhy Rod may be pretending to be contrite to his inner god:
ReplyDeletehttp://contrapauli.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-wheels-are-coming-off-rickshaw.html
Didn't Dante say "Abandon hope all ye who enter here"? Yet Rod went right ahead and entered.
ReplyDeleteI don't know anything about what they do outside the magazine, but his fellow American Conservative bloggers Noah Millman and Alan Jacobs routinely write thoughtful, nuanced posts about religion.
ReplyDeleteAnd then there's Rod Dreher bumbling around in the background with his foot in a bucket.
It's a magazine founded by Pat Buchanan (And others), so in that sense it isn't surprising, but somehow it's actually attracted numerous non-idiots. I don't know what the hell's going on over there.
Visita mi blog http://seoestafadores.wordpress.com/
ReplyDeleteTertullian had the same idea, in his treatise On Spectacles; but he got the idea from Jesus' parable of the rich man and Lazarus. Credit where credit's due.
ReplyDeleteSomething tells me they'd hang up their ale hats and turn to winemaking, given the colossal surplus of sour grapes that Dreher would bring with him.
ReplyDelete"Moonlight be-dumbs you".
ReplyDeleteYeah, M_Young... here's the thing. Rod has played footsie with out-and-out racists for quite a long time (VDARE's Steve Sailer for one, who now writes occasionally for Rod's magazine). And let's not forget the name of his Feliciana Parish politics blog (the one where he seemed to be fighting his own little war against the Voting Rights Act in his own backyard), the Bonnie Blue Revue. Quoth Wikipedia:
ReplyDelete"The Bonnie Blue Flag was an unofficial banner of the Confederate States of America at the start of the American Civil War in 1861. It consists of a single, five-pointed white star on a blue field."
What nerve Rod has to post that. Rod's entire fucking blog, at least since he got fired by the Templeton Foundation and made his way to the (swiftly-sinking) American Conservative and to the little town of his birth to cash in on the death of his sister, has been dedicated to spite, ridicule, cruelty, and moral superiority. That pretty much sums it up right there. Take away a) his fear/almost-sexual-longing of the blacks, the gays and the sluts (or the black gay sluts), b) his viciousness towards people he perceives as being lower down on the totem pole than he is (transgender people, liberal Christians, anyone who either can't or won't fight back), and c) his obsession with gay marriage, in which he has as of late convinced himself that marriage is the axis upon which the universe turns, that gay marriage is a threat to the order of the entire universe, and that he, Rod Dreher, by fighting against gay marriage is somehow the Defender of the Universe... well, there isn't much left.
ReplyDeleteEven commenters on his blog are noting that Rod's general bitterness is getting worse and worse. You'd think a guy that established his very own church (since the other Orthodox churches around Baton Rouge apparently weren't pure/crazy enough for him) and now gets to be the Big Man in his little world (I honestly feel sorry for the priest Rod enticed to come pastor the Church of Rod - the moment he realizes that the financial stability of him and his family is largely in the hands of a petty, bitter fuck like Rod Dreher will be pretty terrifying) would lighten up a little. Rod's won. He's come back to his hometown, the place that didn't understand him and bullied him mercilessly, and he's made good (sort of). But if anything, Rod's gotten worse. Maybe he's realizing that everyone around him isn't going to get on their knees and kiss his ass just because he's the great rod Dreher.
I was gonna hesitate before upvoting, but the remembered that you were a Doctor and amazing...
ReplyDelete...
Well, Spy did stop publishing only 20 years ago...(It was almost as bad as Suck.com going under.)
ReplyDeleteI'm being obscure. I was referring to Dante Hicks of "Clerks" fame.
ReplyDeleteI want the latent flower of my relationship with this comment to bloom near the end of the fermentation process...
ReplyDelete...
"Like Webster's Dictionary, she's morocco-bound"
ReplyDeleteJaysus, that reads like a script treatment for a mashup of "Citizen Kane," "Trailer Trash," "Duck Dynasty" and a cartoon version of "The Scarlet Empress."
ReplyDeleteI freely admit my ignorance of Xtian history, but was there ever a time when the religion was not weird and depraved? Was it Rome's fault? Was Jesus obnoxious from the get-go? Damn, I have questions and I am still on my library's wait list for Zealot(last I checked, I was number 85 out of 130).
ReplyDeleteBumper sticker:
ReplyDeleteLUV ME 4 B'ING ASSHOLE
Should have known. The clumsy Victorian high style, the overburdened consciousness of one's place in the broader scheme of things, the unremitting stupid.
ReplyDeleteJust another beneficiary of the Yankee system waving the flag of Scotch-Irish Nazis.
I know the racism is what registers most with these folks, but i still find myself confused by it. Be a winner, for fuck's sake. Fuck the south.
Bumper sticker? That's a vanity plate.
ReplyDeleteChrist, I'm still pissed about suck.com. I used to work at a federal facility, and some clueless sysadmin had blocked the site. I typed it into the browser every single day anyway. I would have loved to have some clueless git try to complain about it.
ReplyDeleteHe might just be willing enough to put on that hair shirt. But the buzz kill is he's not going to even look at the comments.
ReplyDeleteMy goodness, he is a whiny little bitch:
ReplyDeletehttp://westfeliciana.blogspot.com/2013/07/defamation.html
So the gift of language has been cruel to his ass, too.
ReplyDeleteDang. You are righteous!
ReplyDeleteI'm no longer surprised at how a godless atheist like myself tends to live a more decent and moral life than 99 percent of so-called Christians.
ReplyDeleteAnd honestly, it's really easy. Just, like, strive not to be a dick to others, ever.
It seems to have been a mostly harmless religion - meeting in cemeteries and practicing ritualized cannibalism and so on - until that closeted women-hater Paul stuck his nose in.
ReplyDeleteYou got that right. During the reign of Little Boots the Am. Conservative was the only place I found where they actually seemed to remember what "conservative" meant. (With all the other rightwing sites the message was, "Look, we said AMERICAN. Got it?")
ReplyDelete"Strive not to be a dick to others" shall be the whole of the law.
ReplyDeleteAn it harm none thou mayest be a dick in private.
ReplyDeleteLet's do a Kickstarter!
ReplyDeleteGotta first find a Wally Cox lookalike to play the lead....
ReplyDelete"-- which style he claimed to have emulated (though I've been reading him since he was a New York Post movie reviewer and I don't remember him producing a single intentionally funny line)"
ReplyDeleteDo you remember him "savaging the rich and famous with extremely clever, lacerating prose"? Somehow I sorta doubt it.
Maybe that's just it.....Rod is getting more and more bitter because he has come back to the town of his birth. The home folks are not necessarily crazy about him. Think about it, he has more or less called them all provincial, small minded dumbasses for years, and, really, without too much reading between the lines, he is still calling them that. From what I can gather, there is even a local website that he is suing because there are anonymous comments on it supposedly by folks who live in his hick burg, who are, shall we say, somewhat less than complementary about Rod's return of the prodigal son shtick, Rod's cashing in on his dead sister, and Rod in general.
ReplyDeleteNot quite sure if Rod is doing this you not only can but must go home again turn because he feels guilty about his dead sister or because it fits in with the marketing of his book about her. Either way, though, Rod doesn't like living there, you can be sure. Indeed, it comes out every so often. Rod went to Paris this summer. And, apparently, had a gay ole time (snicker). He loves Paris, in fact. He actually said he feels more comfortable there, specifically, in the Luxembourg Gardens, than in the woods surrounding his hometown of East Podunk. He left that place for a reason, and the death of his sister and a full body immersion in the works of Wendell Berry don't change that.
Rod is a city/university guy. He likes to argue about philosophy and religion (not that he is actually either intelligent or educated enough to take the stands that he does), the way folks do in freshman dorms. Hence the need for his own, personal priest. I'm just guessing, but most likely the ordinary Orthodox priests in the area are more concerned with stuff like baptizing the kids, saying mass, doing funeral services and such like for the flock generally than they are with arguing with Rod over what he considers to be weighty theological issues.
And that's the priest...the other folks in his town, from his monosyllabic dad to the guys who used to torment in high school to the folks who loved his sister as a teacher and so on, are simply not interested in having the kind of conversations that Rod wants to have, that he craves having. Without the internet he would be climbing the walls.
All of which is making Rod double down on the bitterness, on the gay bashing, on the hate mongering and so forth. He is unhappy in rural Louisiana, but has painted himself in a corner about living there.
I for one am glad to see someone with the courage to say mean things about Ariel Castro, who up until now has been universally lauded by every media figure in the country.
ReplyDeleteI dreamed I saw St. Augustine
ReplyDeleteAlive with fiery breath
Eating popcorn while the heathens
Were engulfed in flaming death
Holy shit, it's as if he's reading all the insults, snark, and the rest here (and there are at least two other blogs largely dedicated to what an asshole he is) and saying "yeah, I should do more of this":
ReplyDeletehttp://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/can-you-be-both-moral-a-conservative-journalist/
Rod Dreher, the gift that keeps on giving. Here's just one jaw-dropping part of a jaw-dropping post:
The bottom line is that the way you write is the way you are, and the
way you will come to be. If you give yourself over to feeding the
Internet beast, and (unavoidably) the beast within, you will grow ever
more beastly. Besides, I can’t think of anybody whose mind was changed
by spite and ridicule, can you?
Remember, this is Rod "Louisiana's Biggest Asshole" Dreher writing this, with apparently no irony whatsoever.
just curious what other blogs those may be, thanks in advance.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.aleksandreia.com/tag/rod-dreher/ - this site is made up of a lot of ex- and current commenters on one or another of Dreher's blogs. Rod's not the focus anymore, but they're keeping up with his slow descent into madness.
ReplyDeletehttp://contrapauli.blogspot.com/search/label/Rod%20Dreher - this is a pretty hard-line, conservative Catholic blogger who's been following Dreher for what looks like quite a while.
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/st-francisville-la/T19MBP6GLDTHD01MS - This started out as a "hey, look at our local celebrity" thing, but devolved pretty quickly into a debate on how creepy Rod Dreher is. Extra points as some of the commenters are locals from Rod's current location.
thanks! that topix one has been a fave for a bit. the others have lots of rodness to dig into.
ReplyDeleteIt's gotta be a MOOG.
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